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crysis on 37" lcd tv

post #1 of 14
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yesterday a friend asked me to connect my laptop to my tv and show him crysis
(i only got the demo).
i did that and the result was surprisingly good. i turned the settings to:

all high, no aa, 1366x768 (tv's native res). the video card @ 600/900.

the game ran really smoothly (no stuttering/slowdown) through the whole demo.
and it looked MUCH better than on my laptop screen @ 1440x900.
it looked like with aa applied and the overall picture quality and colour was much
smoother. i guess the lcd makes the picture a little bit blurry & has better colours
than a laptop screen, which makes a more realistic look overall.
in crysis on the laptop screen (native res) the picture looks too sharp making it less
realistic and when i leave the native resolution it just gets ugly.

a big surprise for me was also the great performance. unfortunately i have no chance
to try dx10 (very high), as i don't run vsta. but i heard the to-be-released-soon
crysis: warhead will allow you very high settings, even if running xp.
post #2 of 14
wheres the 'this thread is useless without pics' gif when u need it.

so pics please next time u go. would love to see crysis on a large monitor.
post #3 of 14
Thread Starter 
make fotos of the tv? you won't be even able to tell the differene between low and
high on them. not even high res screenshots are capable to show how the game
looks when played.
as for the thread being useless: people with a similar system can give it a try, too.
just a recommendation. and people who plan to buy a new pc can see, what the
laptop is capable of.
post #4 of 14
There's nothing inherently or fundamentally different about an LCD in a TV vs an LCD in your notebook screen. The bluriness you experienced is probably due to the TV "overscanning" your input, which uses a video scaler to "blow up" the video about 5-10% to compensate for the fact that TV broadcasts often leave black bars around the actual content, a hangover from the CRT (tube) TV days. Cheaper LCD TVs such as I suspect of your 720p 37" will always overscan, but decent quality sets should let you enable a 1:1 pixel mapping mode, sometimes called "Just Scan" on Samsung sets for example. Any videophile will tell you that overscanning is the devil when you are watching anything BUT broadcast television.

See http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/08/20...pixel-mapping/

I play on a 37" 1080p monitor/HDTV (Westinghouse LVM-37w3se) so I know what it's supposed to look like at 1920x1080 with 1:1 pixel mapping and let me tell you it beats the pants off 1360x768 overscanned.
post #5 of 14
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don't have a bad lcd, i use a samsung lcd. imo they are between the best lcd screens
(together with sony bravia, sharp & pioneer kuro).
the blurryness is ugly when watching my pc's desktop but makes games look smoother imo. the tv supports a "pc gaming mode" which is on. this is also responsible for the effect i mentioned.
one thing lowering the quality a little (but imo not THAT much) is that i use a vga cable
instead of a hdmi, as my laptop has no hdmi out and using the dvi-hdmi adapter
didn't work that well for me.

lcd tvs DO differ from a laptop screen, as they serve a different purpose. i.e. the backlight is much stronger in a lcd tv (look how thick it is compared to a thin laptop screeen) and provide much stronger colours. lcd tvs are also built to let low res material look better (99% of the dvd/tv material here is 720x576).
they still look fine when used at lower resolutions, more than pc screens.
and they handle deinterlacing much better & automatically making the pal format
appear better than on a laptop screen.

of course 1920x1080 offers better quality (when you have a hih quality lcd;
using a 1366 sony bravia or pioneer kuro will still give you nicer pictures than a 500$ 1920 one).
but in my case the 1366 is just right, as playing crysis at 1920x1080 would offer me
much worse performance on max settings.
post #6 of 14
I don't get any bluriness on my Samsung 32" LCD. I use 1360x768, which is the native res (even though the manual states 1366x768), over HDMI (make sure you use a digital connection).

I could never go back to using a small screen for gaming now LOL
post #7 of 14
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does your samsung have "pc gaming mode" enabled?

it's not exactly blurryness, i just can't find a better word.
and i mean it in a positive way, meaning crysis looks better
on the lcd than on my latop screen.

usually i use my 37" to play ps3 games which is great. but as for pc gaming
(i play cod4 multiplayer mostly) playing on my laptop screen feels better.
mouse & keyboard in the living room are just not that convenient.
end a fast paced ego shooter on a giant screen is less practical imo.
post #8 of 14
Yes, it has "game mode" enabled. I have nothing to really compare against, though, as I don't have any other monitor. I had a Dell 9400 with a crappy screen last year, but still used the TV as my monitor. The big screen is great to get you immersed (especially racing games like DiRT and GRID).
post #9 of 14
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agree, racing games or other ones you can use a controller (i.e. a xbox 360 one) are nicer on the huge screen. i also played assassin's creed and tomb raider legend using the tv display.
post #10 of 14
I have a 55 inch LCD TV comming and already planning on trying that, when my DVI - HDMI cables comes in a week.
post #11 of 14
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Originally Posted by dave-p View Post
I have a 55 inch LCD TV comming and already planning on trying that, when my DVI - HDMI cables comes in a week.
55"? that's huge!!!
should work fine with your notebook for all current games.
unfortunately no hdmi out in the m6300. i think dvi is lacking sound support,
so you need to use a audio cable...
post #12 of 14
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Originally Posted by felixbrenner View Post
unfortunately i have no chance
to try dx10 (very high), as i don't run vsta. but i heard the to-be-released-soon
crysis: warhead will allow you very high settings, even if running xp.

Well I mean this is no big deal. Probably the only reason Crytek is offering to do this is because the hack to use the very high settings in XP is widely known. This is just a repeat of the Far Cry AMD optimizations.
post #13 of 14
Thread Starter 
i also tried some config from tweakguides.com once,
which was supposed to make the game look like "very high"
even if using xp.
what i noticed where some sunrays shining through the trees
but nothing else. actually the game seemed to look even worse
sometimes (sand floor getting blurry like with no af).
maybe you really need the dx10 engine to make it look any different..
post #14 of 14
The blurry ground textures is a side effect of the r_usepom (parallax occlusion mapping) option. It disables AF or something. It looks great up close but ruins the clarity of distant or low-angle textures. Overall the game looks much better with it disabled.
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