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Originally Posted by SoloMan
 He is, and so have the others, but nothing has been stated by you or the INQ (which you posted all over) has changed anything. Perpetuating rumors does not contribute to the community, facts and constructive solutions do.
Fact: Nvidia has owed up to their problem just as Sony is doing with theirs. Fact: The issue has not been swept under the rug. So dont state that it has. |
Just over a week ago Dell made available a list of its notebooks that are affected by the GPUs believed to be suffering higher than expected failure rates [due to the card's failure to withstand the extreme thermal environments], and is recommending owners update their BIOS to reduce their risk of running into a problem. The updated BIOSes modify the fan profile to help regulate GPU temperature fluctuations, but as Dell notes, the new parameters won't help customers who are already suffering video-related issues.
Dell isn't alone, and now HP has also released a list of models that qualify for 'Warranty Service Enhancement' (curiously absent is the DV97xx series). And like Dell, HP is also recommending its owners update their BIOS as a preventive measure.
So are all G84 and G86 parts bad like The Inq surmised early in July? No one but Nvidia knows for sure, but looking over the list of affected models would seem to indicate the allegation could hold some merit.
Did Nvidia drop the ball harder than they're letting on? [Only nVidia knows for sure and they are not talking...]
Nvidia Reports Thermal Issues Caused Packaging Failures
Nvidia Corp. said some of its notebook-use graphics chips have failed because of packaging materials that could not withstand the �extreme thermal environments� seen in notebook computers. The company will take a one-time charge of $150M-$200M during its second quarter.
Staff -- Semiconductor International
Nvidia Corp. (Santa Clara, Calif.) said a thermal problem with packaging materials resulted in abnormally high rates of failure in the field for some of its notebook graphics chips, resulting in a one-time charge of $150M-$200M during its second quarter.
The company said it has “switched to a more robust die/package material set,” and is working with its customers to develop system management software that will provide better thermal management.
In a statement, CEO Jen-Hsun Huang said, “Although the failure appears related to the combination of the interaction between the chip material set and system design, we have a responsibility to our customers and will take our part in resolving this problem.”
Huang said Nvidia will work more closely with notebook system designers and its chip foundries to improve the robustness of the products. Discussions are underway with its supply chain regarding the material set issue. Also, Nvidia will seek to recover some of its loss from insurance.
“Today's high-performance notebooks are highly complex systems with extreme thermal environments. The combination of limited thermal management and frequent power cycling is particularly challenging for complex processors like the GPU,” Huang said.
I guess we will only know how bad it really is when notebook OEM's start suing nVidia over losses substained as a result of the defective cards currently on the market.
I also thought this was an open forum where everyone was free discuss ideas, issues, etc. To flame someone because they have a difference of opinion, or bring to the surface controversial issues that you would rather see swept under the rug just seems wrong.
Emphatically stating it is all over
) In a tech forum does not speak highly of your alledged knowledge or skills as it is an earmark of a small weak-minded person who isnt getting their way, and thinks an attempt at intimidation might solve their problem that discourse could not. Perhaps you could spend your online time "helping" someone else in a different thread? If it isn't too difficult for you, perhaps you could also keep the Flaming temper trantrums to a minimum. Thanks.
