Overclocking affect Dell warranty???

while one can hope that laptop manufacturers dont realise about the OC'ing, any damages related from the oveclocking of cpu and gpu will be looked upon with a very suspicious eye.

"Usage that is not in accordance with product instructions" can void a warranty, according to many laptop manufacturers, Dell included

cheers ...

or in simpler terms, if they catch you (you cause damage as a result of it) then YES it absolutely does.

as i always say with OC and laptops, its not worth it.

if you o/c the laptop it will void the warrenty

and i will tell you now

intel and amd both have ways to see how much FSB has been run to the proc, so im guessing the OEMs have access to said equiment/program whatever it may be

this is from a reliable source

But technically increasing clock speeds and not voltage shouldn't void the warranty as it's only asking the cpu to go faster...if it can't it just shuts down and reboots. Believe me I've had a dozen "crashes" when I was test-overclocking and my system rebooted, and is still going fine. So as long as you don't f-around with voltage you shouldn't have any problems anyways.

Proof: think of changing the FSB as changing the multiplier (which all cpu's do by default for power management).

But OEM's are probably hard asses and don't want you getting more for the money regardless of how safe it is.

For "seasoned" overclocking users, this statement might be acceptable. But for average users/owners, unless you can stand by and walk them step-by-step as how to do it, and "garantee" that you'll be responsible when something goes wrong, this statement is pure "sour" consumerism

Please stick with the OP theme.

cheers ...

Yes, sorry for the cynicism

errmmm, changing the FSB of a proc, no matter if its able to handle it or not

in fact, im sure you can find in your warranty for your Hp/Compaq, that it actually says even messing with anything in bios for any other reason than troubleshooting (even if you could change the fsb) voids any/all warranty


it isnt asking the proc to go faster eaither btw.....its putting down more power in order to gain better speeds

IE a stock honda civic with its 120ish hp at the wheel, vs turbo, meth, N02 ect.....thats stock vs overclocking

you honestly think now matter how good the build quality is, that the modded civic will last anything near what the stock civc would?

anything you do from a stock setting to make the proc gain more speeds is wearing it down, how much know one really knows.....not many people keep computers long enough of the life span of a normal proc

but, even changing the O/S on a laptop/desktop can void the warranty


edit: also, you cant gain much GHZ or MHZ from bumping the FSB without a stable voltage btw....

With locked multiplier CPUs adjusting the FSB is the only way to overclock. Most Core 2 chips will accept a significant overclock without increasing the voltage at all.

My desktop MSI P35 Platinum is running at 450Mhz at stock voltage when it's certified for no more than 333MHz. My E6750 processor goes from stock 2.67GHz up to about 3.3GHz without any voltage tweaking and runs very stable at 3.6Ghz with only a modest voltage increase to 1.4V.

The damaged caused by overclocking is directly related to heat and heat variations and indirectly related to voltage and speed. Since my MSI motherboard comes with a massive chipset heatsink and my CPU has a massive heatsink inside a high airflow case the whole thing runs cooler even when overclocked like it is than the same chipset and CPU on a budget motherboard with stock heatsinks in a small OEM style case running at stock speeds. In other words A well built overclocked system that is kept cool will outlast a similar stock speed system running hotter. This is why some high end components such as expensive enthusiast motherboards specifically allow overclocking without voiding the warranty. Of course one of the main purposes of overclocking is to buy low to mid range components for less money and push them to the speeds of the more expensive high end componenets and beyond. In that case the overclocker accepts the risk of damaging his components as a tradeoff.

The problem with notebooks is that you lack the flexibility to increase the cooling to deal with the extra heat generated by overclocking. In fact, notebooks are typically built to the limits of their tolerances in the first place to accommodate their small size, efficiency, and portability. If you overclock a notebook you are immediately pushing it past it's design limits.

Download the software HWMonitor.exe and install it. Download the software Orthos (Prime95 for multi-core CPUs, use google to find it) and run it to see how hot your CPU and chipset gets under a full load.

To give you an idea of the tight tolerances of notebooks....my overclocked desktop running a E6750 at 3.6GHz (35% overclock) never gets much above 50C while my Sager notebook running a E8500 at a stock 3.16GHz tops out around 70C! 70C is pretty hot especially for a 45nm CPU running in a notebook that's designed to handle cooling for quad cores. If I were to drop that E8500 into my desktop it would probably run smooth at over 4GHz without breaking a sweat and would last longer than at stock speed in my laptop.

Bottom line is that overclocking a laptop is probably a bad idea unless you can find a way to control the temperatures.

I wouldn't bother overclocking anyway in light of nVidia's recent troubles with their mobile GPUs. All that's going to do is give you 3-5 more frames per second and almost guarantee you're going to need a motherboard down the road.

The CPU on the other hand, if you can do it without modifying the BIOS or any other part of the system I say have at it because the CPU will say DO NOT WANT before you can kill it. Of course if you have to hack the BIOS to get a CPU overclock that WILL void your warranty except on the XPS M1730 and XPS 7xx desktops.

your first paragraph is true

the second however, is not........under dells EULA, it will say "changing any settings that are blah blah not recomended blah blah will void any/all warranty's"

and are you a dell reseller? iirc you were at one point or am i think of Bluedevil?

Woody, you mention 70 degrees with an exclamation point....going full load I can hit 85 with a high ambient air temp. That's probably as high as I would go but remember, these cpus have built in thermal protection where they'll start shutting themselves off if they get too hot.

not all procs have that.... keep that in mind


errr i should say chipsets

Yes the CPU can take it but I was just pointing out the vast differences between a desktop installation and a notebook installation with the same CPU.

I don't resell, I'm a field technician, though I'm not a Dell employee. However, if you're not making any permanent alterations to the hardware or futzing with BIOS settings you'll probably never get caught unless you state you fouled up the system when you were overclocking. Intel's had all kinds of safeguards embedded in their Core 2 CPUs that keep the CPU from doing something that can potentially damage itself.

HOWEVER, on a system like the XPS M1530 any gains you will get by Overclocking will be so miniscule they won't be worth the effort and could potentially put other components at risk that share the heatpipe.

Overclocking an XPS M1530 would void the warranty.

Excellent point!!!!



Regards,

Richard B
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