Difficulties adding 2nd hard drive to HP Dv9000 laptop - Page 2

thats not 100% ture the early dv9000 needed the jumper to set it to slave.... i think the dv9100 auto detects it that way.... there was a tech at work that restored a computer 4 times with 3 different hd and when he installed the second hd would not boot did this just boot to black screen..... came down to a half a cent part

Mike

It's great to have this resource! Much appreciation Mike! I did not save the links from when I did my research, but my dv9008 is one of the "oldies," and all I recall was the need to slow my new drive's transfer speed down, though perhaps the jumper served both purposes - ? Also, being one of the first ones, it's "Maximum Supported RAM is 2GB." A gamble proved HP wrong on that one, thank goodness! And not immediately finding my jumpers, a sad face got me a handful from Best Buy! Whoo-hoo - a whole nickel!
Happy Holidays! [& computing!]
Rich

There is no jumper setting for Master/Slave in a SATA hard drive
http://www.wdc.com/en/library/eide/2579-001037.pdf

Master/Slave is only in EIDE Hard Drive.

Actually there is no Master or Slave in notebook hard drive.
Each IDE/ATA channel in a desktop can support either one or two devices. IDE/ATA devices of course each contain their own integrated controllers, and so in order to maintain order on the channel, it is necessary to have some way of differentiating between the two devices. This is done by giving each device a designation as either master or slave, and then having the controller address commands and data to either one or the other. The drive that is the target of the command responds to it, and the other one ignores the command, remaining silent.

If there are two hard drive connections on a notebook, each has its own channel so there is no need to set up Master or Slave.Similarly as in Sata hard drive, each has its own connection, there is no Master or Slave set up for Sata in desktop or laptop. The BIOS of HP has a fixed configuration that boot device is first hard drive, so if you have OS in two hard drives, the system only looks for first hard drive for OS.

Similarly, if CD is set up as a first boot device, the system never looks for hard drive at first boot attempt.

The problem is modern drives featuring SATA II interface (3 Gb/s) wont allow DV9000 to boot if the first drive is older SATA 1 (1.5 Gb/s). Though the machine does boot if the new drive is installed in the first bay. The solution is to force the new drive to run only in 1.5 Gb/s mode that is typically done with a jumper on the back side of the drive. The jumper block adjacent to the SATA interface connector on SATA 300MB/sec drives can be used to force the drive into SATA 150MB/sec mode for use with older SATA controllers that only work with SATA 150MB/sec drives.
http://www.seagate.com/images/suppor...sata_block.gif

This is for Seagate hard drive, I don't see this option in your WD. You may try the option to enable Reduced Power Spinup mode to see if it can work in your second bay.

Wow! Thanks beut! Though I feel pretty out of touch with tech right now, I think you've just made this the best thread for anyone who wants to add a second HD to their laptop!
Cheers!
Rich

Thanks. I think I have to give credit to your information from a previous post.

In summary for problem of adding a second hard drive:
-EIDE: either you have a bad or wrong connector or hard drive.
If windows can boot but doesn't see the new added hard drive, you need to initialize it in Disk Management, then format.
-SATA: probably the new hard drive is SATA II, you need to lock it into 150GB/s mode if the hard drive has this function.

Otherwise, you should not have any problem to change your hard drive unless the problem is from motherboard.

For Your Information

Problems are encountered when installing Second Generation Serial ATA hard drives on First Generation Serial ATA controllers.
Question
Why is my Second Generation Serial ATA hard drive not detected by my First Generation Serial ATA controller or motherboard?

Answer
Problem:
Second Generation Serial ATA hard drives are not detected when connected to a VIA or SIS Serial ATA controller. These First Generation Serial ATA controllers include the following chipsets:
VT8237
VT8237R
VT6420
VT6421L

SIS760
SIS964
Cause:
Our Second Generation Serial ATA hard drives use autospeed negotiation. This enables our Second Generation Serial ATA hard drives to automatically detect the motherboard data transfer rate, making it backward compatible with First Generation Serial ATA data transfer rates. However, because this technology is so new, some older First Generation Serial ATA controllers are unable to support autospeed negotiation and cannot recognize the drive. This “drive not detected” condition occurs when a chipset is incapable of correctly negotiating the data transfer speed with a Second Generation Serial ATA hard drive.

Ok.. So I've read through this post at least 5 times and tried everything you guys suggested but I still can't get mine to work. I have an HP Pavillion dv9310us. The primary drive is WD1200BEVS (120GB) with Vista. I want to add a 320GB WD3200BEVT as the secondary drive to use for storage. Here's what I've tried:

-320GB in secondary drive (no jumper). Boots to HP screen then goes black. I thought..hmm.. according to the WD site, it should still boot to Vista even without the secondary drive formatted.. right?? Apparently not.

So I found this thread and tried everything below:

-320GB in secondary drive (w jumper). Boots to "Windows is loading files" screen but doesn't go anywhere. ONE time it went past this to the normal Vista loading screen, hung there for about 5 minutes, then went to Windows Startup Repair saying that there was an error that occurred during startup. It froze in Startup repair. Fun..

-Switched primary and secondary drive's connectors and put 320GB drive in secondary slot (both with and without jumper). Loads to HP screen. Gets to "Windows is loading files" screen but never past that.

-320GB drive in primary slot, nothing in secondary slot. Gets to screen that says no OS. I did this to make sure it wasn't an issue with the drive.

-320GB drive in primary slot, nothing in secondary slot, Win 98 in CD drive. Gets to install screen, goes through most of that, then it goes to a black screen and nothing.. (My comp came new with Vista installed so I don't have a Vista disk and I can't find my XP disk anywhere..)

-After that happened, I restarted without the 98 disk in the CD drive in the unlikely chance that maybe it installed properly. It didn't.. I then tried again with installing 98 and it did the same thing (froze on black screen after most of the install).

I really don't know what to do from here. I even attempted calling computer repair stores in the area and they all want to charge me anywhere from $125-$200/hour to install and format the second drive. They also said they'd need it for at least 2 days before they could even start on it. I work from home and I can't be without my computer for that long. Please... any help would be much appreciated.

Win98 is going to push it - you are missing SATA driver, and I am not sure that W98 would allow you to see such a large drive size.

cheers ...

You didn't read previous posts carefully. Your laptop doesn't support Sata II, and this WD Sata II doesn't have option to limit its speed to Sata I, then of course it won't work. You may buy Seagate hard drive which has option to limit the speed to 1.5 GB/s or just buy a Sata I hard drive.
The main point is your laptop doesn't support Sata II, don't waste your time to try an uncompatible hardware.

Thanks qhn. If I were to try with Vista or XP do you think it would work? Sorry. I'm new to this. My dad is a computer whiz and tried to walk me through this and now I can't get in touch with of him.


Beut - In your post #18, you said this about pretty much the exact same specs as what I'm trying to do. The only difference I can see is that they have a dv9410 and I have a dv9310. I looked up the specs and couldn't see any sata compatibility differences with the two. Honestly, that's one of the first things I looked up when I read that post. Maybe I missed something? You also mentioned that the Reduced Power Spinup option might help so I figured I'd try it. Whatever I can do to get it to work, right? If it comes down to it, I guess I'll just have to find a way to get rid of this WD drive and get a Seagate (WD doesn't have the drive size I need in SATA I). Is there anything I need to look out for when getting a seagate? Any input would be much appreciated.

You have a sata drive, so with XP you still need the driver for it. Check if you have the option in the BIOS to turn off AHCI support first. If yes, then you won't need the driver.

Vista would be fine.

cheers ...

Our Second Generation Serial ATA hard drives use autospeed negotiation. This enables our Second Generation Serial ATA hard drives to automatically detect the motherboard data transfer rate, making it backward compatible with First Generation Serial ATA data transfer rates. However, because this technology is so new, some older First Generation Serial ATA controllers are unable to support autospeed negotiation and cannot recognize the drive

WD notebook hard drive doesn't have option to lock the drive to Sata I speed as Seagate one, your option is buying a Seagate, then set a jumper as instructed so it can work with your laptop. You should look for information from manufacturer's website before buying a hard drive.