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Help me decide on an OS for My Home Theater PC

Poll Results: What OS should I use?

 
  • 33% (2)
    Windows XP 32bit that I already have
  • 0% (0)
    Windows Media Center
  • 0% (0)
    Windows XP 64bit
  • 66% (4)
    Other (Vista, Lenix ect) Write In
6 Total Votes  
post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 
It is time to reformat and clean my desktop system up. I use this machine primarily as a home server and sometimes for games and Internet usage. I have wanted to make this into a Home Theater PC as well. I need help deciding on the best OS to use.

I do not really want to use anything Vista unless someone can give me a really convincing argument. I have a full copy of XP Professional (SP3) 32bit and that is what is on it now. I have been thinking of upgrading to XP Professional Media Center or XP Professional 64bit. I wanted XP Professional Media Center in 64bit but I am pretty sure that was never produced, unless someone can tell me otherwise.

I could make this decision on my own but I thought it would be fun to see what every one here thinks. I have been working with computer for a long time but I learn new things every day so that means there is still a lot I don’t know. I am psyched to see what you all think!


This machine as far as I know is 64bit compatible the specs are as follows:

Two Dell Trinitron 19” displays and One Dell Trinitron 21” display.

Philips 42" LCD TV
1080P 1920 x 1080
Contrast Ratio 8000:1
5ms Response Time
LCD Full HD W-UXGA Act. matrix

EVGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI Motherboard
Model 122-CK-NF63-TR
1333/1066MHz FSB

Intel Core 2 Duo E4400 Allendale 2.0GHz
Model BX80557E4400
800MHz FSB

Crucial Ballistix 2GB DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) SLI Ready (to be upgraded depending on the OS Choice)
Model BL2KIT12864AA804
Timing 4-4-4-12
Voltage 2.2V

Two EVGA GeForce 7600GT’s SLI
Model 256-P2-N615-TX
Memory Clock 1400MHz
256MB GDDR3
DirectX DirectX 9

Seagate Barracuda 320GB 7200RPM Hard Drive
Model ST3320620AS
16Mb Cache
SATA 3.0Gb/s

LITE-ON 6X Blu-ray SATA Player
Model iHES106-29
Read Blu-ray DVD-ROM 6X
Read/Write DVD-ROM 16X
Read/Write CD-ROM 48X
2MB Cache

If there is anything I left out or there any questions let me know and let me know what you think when you vote, Thanks
post #2 of 18
Just use the OS you already have.
post #3 of 18
XP Pro is good enough. I've heard MCE streamlines it but I've never had it.
post #4 of 18
Unless you specifically have a lot of 64-bit software, I don't see a reason to go with 64-bit. I used XP Media Centre on my previous laptop, with a USB tuner, and I now use Vista Home Premium on my self-built HTPC. Tailor it towards the main use (i.e. more ram and faster, larger HDD's for TV recording, bigger and better GPU's for games, and faster CPU for media encoding). A balanced set like you have will allow you to do most anything, but not excel at one specific thing (my system is the same).

For today's HTPC, I'd recommend Vista Home Premium, 4GB ram, dual 500GB 7.2k drives, and single or dual 9800's / 4850's. Any "core" series CPU is also more than capable for the typical tasks.

The other big question is software. If you are familiar with linux, then that can be a great option for HTPC use (mythtv, etc), because it is relatively efficient, but Windows is still where it's at when it comes to drivers.

For the true HTPC experience, get a remote and/or wireless keyboard. With my PC in sleep and a Harmony 880, the system can start in under 10 seconds, for that "instant-on" feel of consumer electronics.

The only thing I don't use my PC for at the moment is watching and recording TV (even though I have a couple tuners here, including an OTA HDTV stick).

So, the biggest challenge will be getting all the software to co-mingle nicely.

...if that long-winded post helped you at all LOL
post #5 of 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by Garbuckle View Post
Unless you specifically have a lot of 64-bit software, I don't see a reason to go with 64-bit. I used XP Media Centre on my previous laptop, with a USB tuner, and I now use Vista Home Premium on my self-built HTPC. Tailor it towards the main use (i.e. more ram and faster, larger HDD's for TV recording, bigger and better GPU's for games, and faster CPU for media encoding). A balanced set like you have will allow you to do most anything, but not excel at one specific thing (my system is the same).

For today's HTPC, I'd recommend Vista Home Premium, 4GB ram, dual 500GB 7.2k drives, and single or dual 9800's / 4850's. Any "core" series CPU is also more than capable for the typical tasks.

The other big question is software. If you are familiar with linux, then that can be a great option for HTPC use (mythtv, etc), because it is relatively efficient, but Windows is still where it's at when it comes to drivers.

For the true HTPC experience, get a remote and/or wireless keyboard. With my PC in sleep and a Harmony 880, the system can start in under 10 seconds, for that "instant-on" feel of consumer electronics.

The only thing I don't use my PC for at the moment is watching and recording TV (even though I have a couple tuners here, including an OTA HDTV stick).

So, the biggest challenge will be getting all the software to co-mingle nicely.

...if that long-winded post helped you at all LOL
Media not gaming. I am running a AMD 4850e and ATi 3200HD. No problems at all including HD video.
post #6 of 18
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the input so far guys!

Garbuckle do you think it is worth spending the money on Vista when I have XP Pro? I am willing to spend money on a significant upgrade like I though MC or XP64 might be. My bigest want in an upgrade is to make a HTPC easy to use and flow well when watching TV and then switching to Music or a DVD. Also my wife needs to be able to figure out how to use it. Like you said I want the software to "co-mingle nicely". I have not used Vista much do you think it would help me get what I am looking for? Long-winded yes but all very helpfull thanks Garbuckle!

I also forgot to mention the TV card I have, it is:

KWORLD PlusTV HD PCI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16815260007

DarqHelmet and wraithrsw I do like the XP Pro I have, I just don't feel like it flows well as a HTPC. Deffinatly my favorite option now cuz it is the cheepest Any recommendations on software to add that might help?

Thanks again all!
post #7 of 18
The question to ask yourself is whether Vista (or XP MCE) is worth the $ for the built-in media functions, or whether you want to try and get the same experience with 3rd-party software and your XP Pro.

If you have all the pieces already, then there is no reason not to try and set up a HTPC with what you have, and if it doesn't work out, then look to upgrade the software or hardware.

You may want to read some forums on your tuner to see which OS supports it the best (Vista may be able to handle HD cards better than MCE, for example).

Maybe an option to look at is the Antec Fusion Max. It's a great HTPC case and comes with the LCD, Remote and software, so would work well with your XP Pro. You may also be able to buy the LCD/Remote/Software as a package by itself to use with your own case.

Just throwing out options. It's all up to you
post #8 of 18
Thread Starter 
I have used XP pro as a HTPC now for awhile just don't like any off the media software I have used. Total Media 3 and PowerDVD(a little)

Garbuckle you have been a big help, you have piqued my interest in Vista a little if you have a minut I got a couple more questions .

Does Vista have a program to play TV?

Does Vista have Media intigration for HTPC use other than Media Player 11?

Do you use Vista only as your HTPC or do you have another software?

The software you use, do you like it beter than the Media Center you had on you old computer?

Any recommendations on add on software to XP Pro?

As for remote I was thinking of looking into an air mouse, do you have ony experience with them?

Thanks again for all your help Garbuckle. Anyone ells's input is welcome as well THANKS!!
post #9 of 18
Other. Vista
post #10 of 18
Vista is like XP MCE; it has Media Centre built-in (as long as you get the Home Premium or Ultimate version). It is practically the same Media Centre as XP MCE, just refined a little, with better support for HDTV, I think. As I say, I don't use my HTPC for TV, but from what I've heard, some people prefer the Media Centre in Vista to MCE, and some vice versa. I have tried a couple of other programs when I had XP MCE, but just found the integration of Media Centre to be the best, and remotes designed for MCE work right out of the box (as I say, even a Harmony 880). I haven't used an air mouse, but it may be a good solution; my Harmony doesn't control mouse movement, just media functions.

As for recommendations for XP Pro, all I can say is download a demo of various media programs to see which you like best; they all perform slightly different.
post #11 of 18
Thread Starter 
Garbuckle has got me leaning towards Vista , now I want some to convince me not to got vista. LOL

Vista home premium on new egg is $99 and XP MCE is $119 both System Builders - OEM so if I go with changing my OS than it sounds like it makes more sence to go with vista...right? Any one have any more input on that thought?

One more big question here Vista 64bit and 32bit are the same price is there any reason to go with 32bit over 64bit? My mobo will support up to 8Gb bit I would need a 64bit OS to do that correct?
post #12 of 18
The only difference between 64 and 32 bit is the drivers and whether the programs you use will take advantage of 64-bit. It may be harder to find 64 bit drivers for all your hardware. It would be nice to have 64 bit to use 8GB ram, but I barely make use of the 4GB that I have now.

As for Vista vs XP MCE, the one is $20 cheaper and newer (i.e. supports newer features), while the other is more expensive, but has more support because it is older. FYI, I don't think XP MCE is even available in 64-bit.
post #13 of 18
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Garbuckle View Post
The only difference between 64 and 32 bit is the drivers and whether the programs you use will take advantage of 64-bit. It may be harder to find 64 bit drivers for all your hardware. It would be nice to have 64 bit to use 8GB ram, but I barely make use of the 4GB that I have now.
Is there a good place to find out if the hardware I have is compatible with 64bit Vista. If I can get the 64bit working I think I would choose that since they are the same price. I most likley wouldn't be able to make use out of 8gb either...ram is just so darn cheep now. I remember when ram got down to $1 a Mb

Quote:
Originally Posted by Garbuckle View Post
As for Vista vs XP MCE, the one is $20 cheaper and newer (i.e. supports newer features), while the other is more expensive, but has more support because it is older.
Deffinetly sounds like a no brainer there for Vista. I got all the support I need with people like you on NBF! Who need MS


Quote:
Originally Posted by Garbuckle View Post
FYI, I don't think XP MCE is even available in 64-bit.
I don't think so either, looks like MS abandoned XP MCE when they started producing Vista. Oh well no big.

Thanks again for youe help Garbuckle
post #14 of 18
There may be a compatibility check on the MS site to test your system, otherwise check the manufacturers pages for all your hardware to see if they provide 64-bit drivers. 32-bit drivers might even work, but no gurantee. Can't help much there, as I have no experience with 64-bit.
post #15 of 18
I've used Windows Media Center before both the XP and the Vista versions. It works quite well, but I happen to prefer Beyond TV from snapstream media. The one advantage you gain with Media Center is that if you have an XBox 360 your 360 can stream all the media center content from your PC over your network (Including recorded TV). Not bad considering it comes as a part of Vista Home Premium and Vista Ultimate. In fact, I'd say it'd be worth it just for that.

Vista 64bit has MUCH better support than 64bit XP Pro ever got. So you should be relatively safe putting 64bit Vista on the system. Unfortunately Microsoft never made a 64bit version of XP Media Center Edition.
post #16 of 18
Vista Home Premium SP1 64bit is running on my new pc that's for HTPC, gaming, video processing, watching TV, major web browsing, and video editing.

http://www.notebookforums.com/thread223665.html

Media Center can't pick up the signal from my pci tv car; my Kworld TV software can't use epg data for recording setups, Magix Movies on TV and DVD records well but doesn't stop and restart recording to avoid commercials while watching and recording TV. - You have to record straight then edit out commercials later. But this software is good for combining several quicktime videos recorded on my Casio Exlim ZX80 camera for youtube.
post #17 of 18
Thread Starter 
Well the poll said go Vista so... OK. Alot of good points and some reasurement on some of my fears and I ordered Vista Premium x64. I went with x64 just becouse I like the idea of being a little ahead of the curve and utilizing my hardware more, hopefully it's not too much of a challenge (I like a challenge though). I also ordered 8gb of good memory...why not memory is so affordable right now. Well I hope to get every thing installed and up&running this weekend. I will report back when I do. Thanks again for everyones oppinions and input.
post #18 of 18
Thread Starter 
Haha just read this:
http://www.itworld.com/windows/60181...windows-7-beta
How I don't regret Vista I'm sure I won't though.
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