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post #121 of 221
5/16/04 at 4:19am
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I guess you missed the part that reads.... your own personal backups.

I never said it was legal to copy rented dvds did I?
wtf? u said "THERE IS NOTHING ILLEGAL WITH THE WAY HE STATED IT"...so yes u DID say it was legal to copy rented dvds, because THATS WHAT HE STATED. i love it when people reply with smart ass comments, state the wrong thing, then try to turn it around on u as if ur the idiot.
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post #122 of 221
5/16/04 at 4:19am
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Originally Posted by Stomp
Not to get off on a tangent, but it is not illegal to copy CDs, DVDs, or Games for your own personal backups.
it's not illegal if you actually own the original copy, but to burn rental dvds is illegal

it's called L A W C O M P R E H E N S I O N
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post #123 of 221
5/16/04 at 5:30am
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G556 owners please test using this method:

using notepad, alternate between "1" and "-" key pressing them firmly and quickly at a normal typing rate

you will easily see missing keystrokes in the pattern generated

I am missing randomly sometimes "1" sometimes "-"

It is not these specific keys but can be any keys... its just easier to see the pattern with these keyes

Please tell me if you have some problem... we are trying to track down issue ( i will replace keyboard next week, then will try whole new system if that does not work)

I would like confirmation that "someone" with this same system does not have this problem.
i did what u said and i dont have this problem or any other stuck key problems, i think you should get the keyboard replaced or something, but i wouldnt return the laptop for it. keep trying to find a way to fix it, good luck, sounds like its a real pain
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post #124 of 221
5/16/04 at 11:24am
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wtf? u said "THERE IS NOTHING ILLEGAL WITH THE WAY HE STATED IT"...

Where? Please cut and paste exactly where I wrote that. I never wrote that it was legal for him to make copies of rented dvds and I was not even referring to his post when I was trying to provide information about copyright laws... I quoted a comment by you and tried to help about clarifying the laws surrounding dvd copying. It clearly says in my original post.... I think you missunderstood me and flew off the trigger since all I was doing was providing information and not adressing him copying rented dvds, just personal dvd back ups.


Posted yesterday:

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I guess you missed the part that reads.... your own personal backups.

I never said it was legal to copy rented dvds did I?
Posted today by you:

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it's not illegal if you actually own the original copy, but to burn rental dvds is illegal

it's called L A W C O M P R E H E N S I O N
I guess for you it is also a case of reading comprehension problems since you wrote exactly what I did a day later. I comprehend the laws perfectly. I wrote in my original post that it was legal to make copies of dvds for your own personal backups which translates to you actually owning (thus the word own) the dvds.

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but if making a personal backup for yourself requires that you crack some sort of digital rights management (DRM) system, then it is against the law (DMCA)
I have been following dvd copying laws for a while now because I have a 3 yr old that loves to break my dvds. I followed the case of the state of california vs 321 studios (dvdxcopy). It is illegal for companys to make software that assist people in breaking those copyright codes on dvds (such as the ruling against 321 studio but it is not illegal to make back ups. The metaphor used in the ruling against 321 studios was exceptional. It reads: We can compare this ruling to changing a tire. You are saying it is legal for someone to change a tire but illegal for us to make a tool that assists an individual in changing that tire. Something like that.

Well anyway. I have a pdf with the facts and fictions from several lawers about copying dvds that I will link once i find a place to put it. Very interesting read.
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post #125 of 221
5/16/04 at 12:14pm
guitarded


did you do it several hundred keystrokes?

i usually fill up a notepad page of lines

i can get by with the first 30 to 100 strokes

then it will strike and i will miss every 20th or so keystrokes

i thought it might be background processes interrupting the data stream... but i rebooted in diagnostic mode with all extensions disabled... ran notepad... and had exact same problem

it is either keyboard or a BIOS issue on how the motherboard accepts the input stream from the keyboard...
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post #126 of 221
5/16/04 at 11:41pm
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1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-

1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1---1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1

-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1--1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-

1-1-1---1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1

yea theres some missing keystrokes, at least one was credited to me just mis hitting it, its kinda hard NOT to mis hit a key when typing that in a fast pace
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post #127 of 221
5/16/04 at 11:41pm
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theres at a normal pace, no missing keystrokes sry man

i guess its more of an issue of pressing the key hard enough with most users of this laptop

however, with yours it seems more severe, maybe a bios problem, good luck man! :/
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post #128 of 221
5/16/04 at 11:42pm
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post #129 of 221
5/16/04 at 11:44pm
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There are tons of other small details but there is nothing wrong with copying dvd as he said.
right there stomp thats what u said and thats what u implied. u said it was legal to do what he said, he said he burned dvds he rented, i said ur wrong, u got into an argument...thats it. if this isnt what u meant to say, then thats ur fault for typing it the way u did. so stop arguing and trying to impress people with ur knowledge of pirating laws.

*also i didnt type the law comprehension comment, READ
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post #130 of 221
5/17/04 at 2:36am
hmm, that must be a california law then
http://www.gseis.ucla.edu/iclp/dmca1.htm
that says "Makes it a crime to circumvent anti-piracy measures built into most commercial software."
and i have seen a quote from jack valenti (head of the MPAA) saying that if you want a backup copy for a movie you purchased, you should buy another one
and this is an interesing article that an MIT student had with jack valenti where he basically asks him why its illegal for linux users to crack the CSS encryption of DVDs so that they can watch them on their computers

and i love how in the dmca it says "[n]othing in this section shall affect rights, remedies, limitations, or defenses to copyright infringement, including fair use..."
restricting fair use is everything that the dmca does !!!!

not trying to get into an argument....just interesting stuff to consider
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post #131 of 221
5/17/04 at 4:31am
Just order myself the new nexus notebook heat-pipe cooler.
This looks very interesting, no power needed and very thin and light. Will posts reviews and pics once this thing arrives. Looks like a very good portable cooling solution.

http://www.keyton.co.jp/products/UNEX/TOD-3000.html
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post #132 of 221
5/17/04 at 4:49am
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that does look nifty, i will wait for your review, i might buy it
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post #133 of 221
5/17/04 at 9:28am
hey guitar or any other ecs owner, the exhaust vent on the bottom

is it blocked up? or is it operational? im wondering if thats an exhaust vent for the gpu... do u feel any air coming from down there when ur gaming? or at all?
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post #134 of 221
5/17/04 at 11:14am
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ill check on that later tonight ricewind. btw i noticed u got 3400 in 3dmark03 with similar specs to my laptop, well aside from yours being 1.7ghz. then i noticed u overclocked urs to 480/255

anyway i tried overclocking a bit, i didnt go as high as u did cause i dont quite trust the safeties of overclocking laptops BUT i just thought id mention this:

using radlinker i overclocked the card to 459/243 and got a score of 3051 in 3dmark03

i dont really care about 3dmark03 scores but i thought id post this because certain people were dissapointed to see my 3dmark03 score of 2758 when i was using the stock speeds of 392/216
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post #135 of 221
5/17/04 at 12:08pm
the vent on the bottom of my g556 is not blocked

i believe it is an intake/exhaust

there does not appear to be any fan there just open mesh
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post #136 of 221
5/17/04 at 1:07pm
oh how disapointing

i thought it might of been a GPU fan

i noticed that on systems where their 9700 can OC to 500/300

they have dedicated GPU fans on the bottom and it blows hot air out of the gpu from here (dell xps, sager 5690, sager 8790)

i'dstill like to see a pic tho to get an idea of where its located

i have a vent on teh bottom but its blocked and not operational... its right under the CPU
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post #137 of 221
5/17/04 at 1:09pm
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post #138 of 221
5/17/04 at 1:11pm
heres the 5690, they have a 9700 128mb card too but it overclocks to 500/300 and scores 3900-4000 in 3dmark03!!



cooler gpu = higher possible speeds
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post #139 of 221
5/17/04 at 1:14pm


and heres the 8790 which also has a 9700 (256mb) with oc's to 500/300 as well and scores 4000+ oced
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post #140 of 221
5/17/04 at 1:21pm
whoa thats a lot of fans!

you can see bottom views of the G556 at

http://www.internetishop.com/product...1&item=556D17Y

It is really more like a open mesh grill I feel very very faint heat coming from at hardcore gaming when I lift it up to check temps
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