New Prices for the m17x and m15x  

so sad too bad too late
AW's mobile line is looking so poor right now not even a price drop helps it
They need to hit with new/innovative tech or change their name to Dinosaurware......

I disagree, the M17 is up there with the best of Notebooks.

However the 15 inch range desperately needs an upgrade in terms of new tech. It would be nice to also see a "Netbook" on AW shelves but that is probably unlikely because the target clientele is "Gaming" BUT I do feel that AW is losing out on this current lucrative market seeing as though "Netbooks" are so popular at the moment.

The good news is that they are clearing out old stock to hopefully make room for "New Product". We will have to wait and see...

Alienware sold sytems like the Sentia which was small and portable but not a gaming machine, they dropped out of that market because it was not their main segment.

Some people went for a Sentia and tried running games on it and you know how that goes with an Intel integrated chipset.

And knowing some people out there, I guess there will be more than one who will purchase a netbook "for portability" and try to run Crysis on it, or will want a Quad Core CPU on it, or will want SLI, or will want RAID or will want....

I think u guys are missing the forest for the trees.

The m17 is a mixed bag, while it has lots-o-performance look at the price jump from say a SXPS16. The ONLY thing the m17 has on it is the grfx cards...... at least the 17x has more sex appeal too bad that dog is older than dirt now

I was one of the first Sentia Owners and community supporters and you guys are blowin stuff out ur arse, People knew full well what they were getting, wanted it, expected it, and were very happy with it, that went for both the 14 and 12 models which both sold very well for AW. I love how u guys are posting about platforms u were not even here to see......

The 15x and 17x are sexy as hell, but are Dinosaurs spec wise, the 17x has the specs but lost the sex, and thats only 1 laptop!!!! AW could potentially sell a netbook, 13, 15/16, 17/18 models just fine.

Confused? Are there any other vendors that offer the 8800mGTX/9800GT level GPU in a 15” notebook? Last time I checked, AW is still the only one leading this technology. All others have a low-mid grade GPU.

Any examples of the dinosaur type specs? Specifically what do other models offer that perform better then AW? And how do these improvements help the (gaming / high performance) customer?

I'm being serious find me another 15" or smaller notebook that with a 10043 3dmark06 and i might just take a look

I didnt readily find any 15" 9800gt's but I didnt look hard either, Im sure there are a couple out there..... There are plenty 15" 9800gts's though try an ASUS G serries on for size... AW puts their logo on stuff and doesnt lead shit! Im a gamer, I dont want/need to play crysis on a 9800gt, a 9800gts will play all the games I want just fine.....

As far as Dinosaur specs, the 15x was 6 months behind everyone when it came out, now its a whole generation behind along with the 17x. Of course thats taking grfx out of the equation, but still 1 spec only does not make a laptop and being as thats the ONLY spec it can hold on to speaks poorly of itself, Im not saying its not an important spec, but that spec alone does not carry anything other than e-penis arguments.

But I sure could use a monte chipset and procs, better n wireless, broadband connect, displayport, esata, led-lcd more portability and better battery life for the other things I like to do on a computer, thats how it helps the gaming/high perf. customer.

The "AW is only one with 10k 3dmark" argument is sooo weak and tired, Ill take the 9 or 8k mark, not play crysis and still be 10 times the gamer you are. And if I really wanted to pay crysis I wouldnt waste time on a half arsed laptop graphics.

I'd look harder, because they dont exist.

Outside of the CPU the GPU is the most complex component. CPU advances are very important for business application / backend servers. But there are very limited user apps that are heavily dependent on the CPU, yet there are plenty that are dependent on the GPU. As for Alienware customers, the GPU is the most important component.

You’ll take a 20% 3D performance cut but you wont waste time on a half arsed laptop graphic? I dont think you'll have the hardware requirement to be 10 times (+1000%) better gamer then most ....

PS: go a head and find a 15" notebook with your 8k 3dmark score... outside of aw, you won't find it....

The only good thing about it is that its the begining of the end for those models and the begining of new speculation as to what will take their place.

See my sig. I'm a proud owner of a highly modified Asus G50VT-A1 (as well as an m15x and a couple of other Alienware laptops). As of 2/9/09 the G50 (gaming 15" laptops) do NOT come with a 9800M GTS. They have a 9800M GS. Not as fast as the m15x. If you want the GTS you'll have to order the high-end 17" (G70) series.

Arch,
What gaming laptop is better than the m15x right now? 2/9/09
Give exact make/model and tell us why.

First, Im an AW customer/owner, and GPU is NOT the most important thing to me.... so you dont speak for all AW owners/customers so dont post like you do!

Second, do your own homework, someone on this very board posted a G Serries 8K score OOB......

Better is too subjective..... my point is I dont want a desktop replacement in a 15", I want a powerful portable laptop that plays games, the 15x sacrifices too much portable performance for slightly more than marginal gains in 3d performance. Does that make me any less a gamer...? NO! Does it make me any less worthy of owning an AW or for that matter making strong willed comments when I think they r f'ing up..... NO!!

Who said anything about getting ahead... how bout just coming close to the mass market.
M15 shipped 6 months after every other santa rosa platform hit, the 17x some time after that. the m17 came out 6 months after everyone elses monte.

Be 1 or 2 months behind, not half a year plus, or wait a minute...maybe just maybe beat the vanilla 800$ laptops to market with the new technology......

I guess back on topic, the price cuts aren't enough imo to make the 15" laptop at all competitive. Stack it next to a SXPS16 at half the cost and the SXPS destroys it in every category except FPS. Hell compare it to the Dell and HP launch prices of the same tech the 15x offers and the 15x would still be more expensive than those laptops released 18 months ago......

...Clears the debris blowing out my arse....

First off I have owned 2 x AW Sentia machines, the 3200 and 3450, so your comments about owning platforms that I don't own are unwarranted.

I personally would like to see another portable/netbook coming from AW but know thats not going to happen because DELL supplies those and would be in direct competition to AW.

on with the bashing....oh why cant people just discuss and express opinions instead of bashing each other

Could have fooled me… your sig says you own some form of HP.
You bought an AW but do not want a high performance rig? You waisted your money. Yes, most who come to AW are looking for a high performance rig, besides you.

I actually have done my homework, oother notebook vendors do not provide 15" notebooks with top preformance GPU's. like others have asked, provide an example…

Outside of AW, the most powerful GPU you’ll find in a 15” platform is the 9700m GT http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-...GT.9454.0.html not even close to 8K let alone 10k. Please do some research first.


The m15x is a major advance in notebook technology… prior to the m15x the only way you were get a TOP END GPU was in a 17” platform. These 17” notebooks are too large and are typically called desktop replacements.
The m15x is very portable, only 15” which is industry standard. So this is not a desktop replacement. They only problem with the m15x compared to most mainstream 15” notebooks could have been battery life. AW even corrected this with binary GFX.

I think you clearly proved you have no idea what you’re talking about. If you want to prove me wrong go ahead, start finding us 15” notebooks other then the m15x that score higher then the m15x. Its not a "slighly" better 3d prefromance, its "blows your noob 15" away" better.
I’ll give you a hit, there is one (exactly one). Lets see if you even did any research on this or I’ll just assume you have no idea what you’re talking about and should be completely dismissed.