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Enable Input Monitor on Pavilion dv7t running Vista

post #1 of 16
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Thank you VERY much in advance to anyone who can offer any help on this. This is extremely frustrating for me.

I have a Pavilion dv7t laptop running Vista. One of the main reasons I bought this was to do audio work in Sony Acid Music and Sony Sound Forge. Well, lo and behold, I can't hear my mic input. I can record audio in using the mic input, but I can't monitor the input as I am using it to know whether it is too loud, too quiet, I am too close to the mic, too far away, etc.

I have done a lot of research on this via google searches and have found that most people solved this (on other laptops or other computers running Vista) by changing the input monitor setting (to enable it) within the windows registry. I dug all through various locations in my reg files and can't find anything on an HP Pavilion dv7t running Vista that corresponds with an input monitor setting.

This is a huge source of frustration. If anyone can let me know how to enable this, I would appreciate it. It's not a matter of right clicking on the speaker in the windows tray and changing anything on playback devices or recording devices. I have tried every possible combination of that and it doesn't work. This is something that needs to be fixed at a root level.

Why HP or Microsoft has this set as a default setting so you can't even monitor your input volume is beyond me. It makes no sense whatsoever.

Thanks for any help.
post #2 of 16
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Any ideas? Anyone?
post #3 of 16
It is not so much an issue of HP or any other laptop brands, nor is it Microsoft Vista - blame it on DRM. Use XP if you must have the audio input monitor.

cheers ...
post #4 of 16
"Use XP if you must have the audio input monitor."

Hi qhn, I must beg to differ. Audio input monitor do work on VISTA! However, it does not on HP Vista strangely enough. I have the same problem and same computer as the OG. Do never buy HP, rest assure, there are no worse brands.
post #5 of 16
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Originally Posted by Agrippa View Post
"Use XP if you must have the audio input monitor."

Hi qhn, I must beg to differ. Audio input monitor do work on VISTA! However, it does not on HP Vista strangely enough. I have the same problem and same computer as the OG. Do never buy HP, rest assure, there are no worse brands.
I tried on my Sony Vista Business, and I could not get the audio input monitoring to work, strangely it works on the XP partition of the dual boot.

cheers ...
post #6 of 16
Okay, now I know how to do with Soundmax cards. However I have IDT so I can not figure out where in the registry I must look. But here is the Soundmax solution I bluntly copied from another forum:

Marc123456 Oct 9, 2008 21:01:28 GMT N/A: Question Author Thanks a lot, this seems to do the trick.

I found it at this location:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4D36E96C-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\0001\AD1981\Disable

Here I found "MicV" and "MonR". I changed MicV to "00", and it now works and shows on the "levels" page of the speaker settings.

If you have Soundmax, there is your solution plain and simple! If it is not in 0001 then just search for AD1981 and I assure you it will work. BUT, my problem is I have IDT and I am too newbie to understand where in the registry my IDT will be found
post #7 of 16
silverladder, I FOUND OUT HOW TO DO IT ON THE IDT CARD FOR PAVILION DV7! After 1 week trial and error I figured it out! I will post a fix on the other forum, so go there and read it!

http://forums13.itrc.hp.com/service/...readId=1270975

EDIT: I post it here aswell.
post #8 of 16
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silverladder, I FOUND OUT HOW TO DO IT ON THE IDT CARD FOR PAVILION DV7! After 1 week trial and error I figured it out! I will post a fix on the other forum, so go there and read it!...
what about poor us here at NBF???

cheers ...
post #9 of 16
Yeah, I will post it here aswell, I was just so happy I forgot you for a while.

First I start with a rant so you can skip this if you want to go straight to the problem solving part. I can not believe it myself. I have literally been trying to solve this for a week. Perhaps 50 hours (or more) of pure trouble shooting, not much sleep, and reading a lot online but with no one being able to find a solution for HP Vista with IDT Soundboards. But now I am the God of Enabling Input Monitor on Vista, solely by myself, since HP or Microsoft where of no help whatsoever. However, I got clues about registry editing reading how to solve it on Realtek soundcards.

I called HP Sweden support, they did not understand why I wanted annoying feedback (the audio feedback that is what the mic and speakers create). So I mailed HP USA because I figured they would be of more help. It was like speaking to a child (However kudos to HP support Sweden e-mail support because they actually tried to understand my question and gave me answers, however they had no fix for it, but they could atleast explain to me they had understood my question and give me an explanation that Input Monitor was disabled on purpose on the Vista soundcards).

I kept getting advices from HP Support USA to do a complete reinstall of my computer etc, when I tried patiently to explain that was not the issue, and that they were giving advices on totally different subjects. Reading our mail conversation again I can't stop smiling (or is it sadness?).

I guess that is the CATCH 22 of support-business of the capitalist free world, because a talented support person will get promoted and stop doing these tedious support issues, and left in support are those who just can't help people out. Since if they could they would themselves be promoted and climb the ladder, and therefore stop working with actually helping people out, and round it goes, to eternity...

END OF RANT.

HOW TO ENABLE INPUT MONITOR FOR HP VISTA SYSTEMS WITH IDT SOUNDBOARDS (atleast on my HP Pavilion Dv7 Vista64 with IDT HD Audio card):

Read this carefully, since if you do not do as I did exactly there will be problems.

::::1:::: Open regedit and search for DisableMicInFromRender. Change it from 01 to 00. Or you can browse to:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4D36E96C-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\0007\Settings\filter\Speaker1\
DisableMicInFromRender hex:01 change to hex:00.

RESTART COMPUTER.

::::2:::: NOW you have to downgrade your IDT drivers to IDT ID92HD71B7 Audio Driver. Go to:
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/g...reg_R1002_USEN

and download the file sp39330.exe. I do assume you have the driver called sp41398.exe installed now. Do not install yet. Firstly, completely remove your old IDT drivers (do not blame me if something goes wrong, I am merely trying to help when Microsoft, IDT and HP does not give a s___). After this I think it is best to restart computer to be on the safe side.
THEN INSTALL THE sp39330.exe! AND RESTART AGAIN!

( For you others I found a forum thread with other Generic drivers you might want to look up if you do not have HP and IDT, scroll down and you find the links:
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=33686&p=203452

::::3:::: Go to Sound settings, go to playback\levels and you should now find the Mic volume option there, and perhaps muted. Unmute, raise the volume to max. (And check in Recording-settings that you have the mic turned on aswell.

::::4. Now here is the tricky part. It do work in mysterious ways, and it is very strange indeed. THIS IS IMPORTANT! I first did not get it to work, but I right clicked on the system tray, the IDT setting button. Right click on it, and choose the middle option. I do not know what it is called in English, but in Swedish it is called "Öppna minipanel för musikl". I guess it would be called something like "Open mini..." What it is is a small window called IDT HD Sound, and you can adjust your sound there.

WHEN OPENING it, my Input Monitor Mic started to spark AND IT WORKED! When I close it, the microphone stops working, but when I open it, it starts again! And sometimes when I restart computer it does not start at once. Then I have to do the Special move:

----Special move (Hopefully it works without this step for you)----
READ THIS: If it does not spark to life, THERE IS ONE IMPORTANT STEP TO DO IF YOU CLICK AROUND AND IT DOES NOT START WORKING!

Go to playback-settings in the system tray/Speakers/Advanced and uncheck the button in the "Exclusive mode" called "Give program that require exclusive mode lower priority" or something like that.

Then it mysteriously starts working, if it does not, go to Recording setting aswell and do the same thing there and press OK. And remember to keep the small IDT window open. Keep in mind it is not the big settings window. Rather weird I must say!

I really do not understand why it works like this, that one have to do weird stuff to make it work. Perhaps even some steps I described can be omitted but I can not figure out which step it is. IT IS REALLY WEIRD that you have to "trigger" the mic to work by doing some strange "Exclusive mode" setting and keep the small IDT window open.
Also, sometimes it keeps klicking on and off with intervals of maybe 1 minute. Perhaps some elite computer geek can explain this too me?

However, when you get the Input Monitor to start working it works until you restart, and after a while you start get the hang of how to make it spark to life. Perhaps you do not even need this last jerking around to get it to work. I hope so, just try to open the last small IDT window and perhaps that might work without these strange poking around I have to do to get it to work (sometime).

Keep in mind to keep the mic running so you hear when it sparks to life.

VENI VIDI VICI! Just took 50 hours or so... I can answer questions here if it still does not work. Just read my steps carefully!

Ps. When I do know exactly what makes it spark to life I will post it here. I just got it to work and came here directly and posted due to my joy of success. Perhaps someone here can figure out and tell me?
post #10 of 16


*by the way that link to aumha.net gave me a page load error*

cheers ...
post #11 of 16
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*by the way that link to aumha.net gave me a page load error*

cheers ...
Okay sugar, I fixed the links.
post #12 of 16
Thread Starter 
Thanks so much Agrippa. Going to try that this weekend.

It makes me really mad that I even have to do this to get the input monitor to work. I shouldn't have to. Either HP or Microsoft or both completely dropped the ball on this. The input monitor should be enabled by DEFAULT. It is SUCH a basic setting. This is really annoying.
post #13 of 16
Thread Starter 
I followed all your instructions. The input works, because I can see the levels jumping up on the recording monitor.

However, I still can't hear myself through headphones or the speakers.
post #14 of 16
Thread Starter 
Also, DisableMicInFromRender has disappeared completely now.

This laptop is practically worthless to me if I can't monitor my vocal input to do music or record spoken word projects.

It bothers me that HP would sell a laptop with such a basic function seemingly impossible to enable.
post #15 of 16
Thread Starter 
Nevermind, I GOT IT TO WORK!

I am SO SO SO SO happy.

Thank you!

I had to unmute microphone in the Speakers and Dual Headphones properties.

Thank you SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!! =)
post #16 of 16
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Originally Posted by silverladder View Post
Nevermind, I GOT IT TO WORK!

I am SO SO SO SO happy.

Thank you!

I had to unmute microphone in the Speakers and Dual Headphones properties.

Thank you SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!! =)
Good!

The DisableInput thingy does dissapear completely when downgrading, so that is why you have to alter it before the downgrade. Glad it works for you, I felt the same joy first time I heard the crackle from the speakers

PS. It is nothing but a disgrace that HP behave like this and that I, with mere layman abilities, sit for hours and solve a problem they can't solve with probably hundreds of TRAINED and PAID technical and support personel.
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