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Broken Wireless Hardware Switch Fix

post #1 of 85
Thread Starter 
Most laptops have a hardware switch which disables the wireless card. More than once, I've come across a laptop which has had that switch either broken or broken off. The obvious solution would be to fix the switch, but that involves opening every freaking screw on the laptop to get access to the motherboard just to solder two small points. There is a huge potential of breaking something important in the process, but that is what I've done in the past. Last week the old ass laptop that I use as file server fell ill to the same issue. As I'm using my neighbors wireless signal, I couldn't really ask him if I could hook up an ethernet cable to his router instead (although I thought about it). But honestly, it wasn't worth the effort to open it up. So I started looking up how the wireless card is actually turned off and on using the switch. Here is what I found:

This applies to MiniPCI wireless cards only. Pin # 13 controls the "silent RF" mode. That is what most hardware switch activate in order to turn off your wireless. You'll notice that while you lose your internet connection when the switch is turned off, your hardware is still visible in device manager. The solution is to take your wireless card out, and apply a small amount of tape over just pin #13, and put it back in. That's it. Your wireless card will always see the hardware switch as being turned on. You can still disable the wireless using Fn+f2 or whatever the hotkey is for your laptop.

The pin numbering alternates from side to side so that all odd pins are on one side and even pins are on the other. So if this is your MiniPCI card, tape this pin:
________________________
| .....................................|
| .....................................|
| |--|................................|
|1| |3 5 7 9 11 13 15 17 .........|
...................*

http://s5.tinypic.com/mjbfwh.jpg

The gap between 1 and 3 represents the notch in the card. I hope this helps someone else as this took me hours to figure out.

Update: For mini pci express, it is pin #20, which is responsible for the same function (also active low). It is located on the underside of the board, second pin from the notch toward the side with more pins.

I haven't tried it for a mini pci express card (as I don't have one handy), but I'd imagine it'd have the same effect. If anyone is brave enough to try and tell us the results, it would greatly be appreciated. I highly doubt it would hurt anything. but I make no promises.
post #2 of 85
Very nice. Just curious, but do you know whether pin 13 is active high or active low to disable the wireless?

Edit: Nvm, seems its active low.
post #3 of 85
Cool input!

cheers ...
post #4 of 85
Nice find, I know the older Mini PCI systems with switches usually didn't have any way to change the switch behavior in BIOS. I know on my Dell latitude I can make the switch do absolutely nothing.
post #5 of 85
Sorry to be raising the dead/old,

but i just fixed my firends Gateway T-1625 using the MINI PCIE one, works like a charm <3

Her problem was that her "Wireless Network switch" was broken in the off position an didnt have the option to change in BIOS, VIA Windows, or Ubuntu (heard something about it not using the switch or something)


Had to make an account just to say that.I spent HOURS abusing the hell out of google searching for a fix.

This information is the only thing i found to address a broken switch issue. Other then "Learn to solder!" as i was beginning to thing my only option was.
post #6 of 85
Awesome to hear. Pics?
post #7 of 85
Thread Starter 
I'm glad i could help someone out, and now we know that the mini pcie pin #20 is the correct one to disable.

Here is the best diagram I could find online that shows the pins:
http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/atta...ci_express.jpg

This is actually a diagram of the slot you slide the card into. So imagine sliding the card into this and which pin on the card would correspond to #20
post #8 of 85



Sorry MS paint is the best i can do atm. Fixed the wifi a second before she awoke an had to go home so its not here* but if possible ill get it back again.
post #9 of 85
Excellent, this worked perfectly on pin 20 - saved a lot of time, so thanks for sharing this information. (NB: funnily enough, before this fix, Ubuntu 9.04 could connect, but Windows Vista and Ubuntu 10.04 could not connect.). Computer: Toshiba Satellite L300.
post #10 of 85
Holly Cow - it worked perfect on my intel mini pci express wireless card. Great information thank You so much. I don't know how I ever got the tape on the contact, but I did. I am 46 and the eye are not so hot. I had to close one to keep from seing double. Too lazy to go for the mag light in my son's' room. Pin # 20
post #11 of 85
what is a "silent RF" rf stand for radio frequency?
post #12 of 85
Quote:
Originally Posted by kinghomes View Post
what is a "silent RF" rf stand for radio frequency?
Yes, RF = radio frequency. Silent RF = passive RF, it searches and negotiates connections without external influence

cheers ...
post #13 of 85

PCIE - Intel 4965AGN

I tried this with my sony vaio laptop which has an Intel4965AGN and no luck. Just wondering if removing the RTC cmos battery will help to reset all the BIOS? Almost ready to get an external USB LAN :-(
post #14 of 85
It is worth a shot, but I doubt it very much.

cheers ...
post #15 of 85

problem solved with an pci-express wifi card

Hi,

I had that switch problem on an compaq nc6400 witch the modem is not an mini-pci with the #13 to hide but an pci-e (pci-express) all new laptop have that
and YES! by hiding pin 20 with tape it turn the radio on all
the time with answer your question.

thanks for your help I was stuck with that problem since a week.

so yes boys hide pin 20 on a pci-e will make the wifi on all time witch avoid a lot complicate way to repair the switch itself.

regards!
post #16 of 85

Thank so much! I had a gateway laptop that only worked intermittently with a broken switch, even though everything was set to on in the BIOS. This fixed it! My card had a few extra weird pins, but it was still second from the right on the left side, facing upside down.  The diagram above seems a little bit backwards - the left side will be big and the right small when the card is upside down. But, pin-wise, it was correct for me. Realtek card.

post #17 of 85

works like a charm thanks bro
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Camwinnn View Post




Sorry MS paint is the best i can do atm. Fixed the wifi a second before she awoke an had to go home so its not here* but if possible ill get it back again.


 

post #18 of 85

so how to take out the wireless card in my Toshiba Satellite L305-S5919 laptop? please reply. my switch is broken :(

post #19 of 85
Cover door removal from the bottom?

cheers ...
post #20 of 85

Bump for being helpful, Just fixed my acer aspire 5050 using the pin 20 mask.

 

Thanks!!!

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