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Studio 1537 vs XPS m1530 - Which one is better of these two configs?

post #1 of 20
3/5/09 at 8:41pm
Thread Starter 
Please help me decide which of these to keep.
Which one is a better notebook and why?

Use - General use, medium gaming, video editing, etc. Both capable I would think. Please let me know which one you would take if they were the same price each.

Studio 1537
2.4 Ghz Centrino 2
4 Gigs Ram
250 HDD 7200 RPM
ATI 3450 Video Card
Hi-Res LCD, 1920x1200
Bluetooth 370
Intel WiFi 5100
Backlit Keyboard

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XPS m1530
2.5 Ghz Centrino
4 Gigs Ram
500 HDD 5400 RPM
NVIDIA 8600m GT 256MB GDDR3
Standard-Res LCD WXGA 1280x800
Bluetooth 355
Intel WiFi 4965
Standard Keyboard
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post #2 of 20
3/6/09 at 12:48am
Go with the 1537. It's 1920x1200 will be better for your video editing and you can always easily upgrade everything else.
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post #3 of 20
3/6/09 at 9:59am
The 3450 is most likely crap (I'm not sure though). It ruins the whole config for me.
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post #4 of 20
3/6/09 at 11:31am
the 3450 is an integrated GPU as well, which means to Upgrade is possible.
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post #5 of 20
3/7/09 at 2:39am
Thread Starter 
ok i tried them both and clearly the xps 1530 blows the studio away in performance!
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post #6 of 20
3/15/09 at 4:10am
jajaja thats funny blow the studio away? first the centrino 2 should be a nice upgrade over that other older centrino duo that i think you reffering to in the xps so yeah the centrino 2 its better then the 1920x1200 please that xps cant beat that then the ATI HD 3450 its not as bad as some say just get the ati tool and do some OCing and thats it just get a cooling pad for the extra heat the storage no biggie you can get a 500gb drive for $110 the you got bluetooth and a backlit keyboard just need the fingerprint reader i got the palmrest with touch pad and fingerprint reader for $37 installation was 10 minutes and already has a great wireless card the link 5100 and a nice N wireless router and thats it
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post #7 of 20
3/15/09 at 5:53am
Actually I have the 3450 in one of my latops, and compared to a descreet 8600GT it is a POS. sorry no integrated GPU is going to come close to the peformance of a decrete unit. At least not that I have seen yet. I have a 8400GT in my Vostro and it walks all over the 3450.

Last I would never recommend OC a descrete GPU, when you manage to fry it your looking at a new Mobo. Not quite the same as dropping a GPU in. And I find the stock cooling to be lacking.
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post #8 of 20
3/15/09 at 6:25am
what? i think you need to rethink what you know about lappy`s let see integraded or discrete? ummm you see when you talk about integraded graphics means the rig is using the graphics capabilities of the chipset installed in the lappy like a gm965 chipset x3100 or gm45 chipset4500hd when you say discrete means it has an installed dedicated chip just to handle graphics like the ATI HD 3450 or a NVIDIA 9800 GT discrete graphics, this type of chip are soldered or in some cases manufactures will use a glue like compound to hold the chip in place this is done to prevent over heat and damage to the chip; some specific model laptops come with an port like pre-made dock for the GPU like in case of MXM for NVIDIA but this has not been adopted by all manufactures i think because of cost efect so no dave he cant drop a gpu in lol and as for the OCing that gpu youl be fine if you just do +100mhz i still have a ACER ASPIRE 5672 that came with ATI X1400 128MB I OC this thing +120mhz for 3 years playing call of duty rainbow and some other game with no problems at all its still running hard just dont go crazy anything in excess is bad
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post #9 of 20
3/15/09 at 7:20am
Well,I think morrison has tried them both and found which is faster.

Personally I didn't notice any real improvement in centrino 2 except in benchmarks over the last generation,I ordered my notebook with a P8600,which is the same speed as my last non-C2 notebook and couldn't tell any difference generally,have upgraded that to a X9100 which is an even bigger "have" 95% of the time,just like the argument about how much of a step up centrino 2 is.
I usually upgrade notebook's because of GPU improvement's,or because I want something different,not because of cpu or chipset's,the last cpu upgrade where I thought there was a large difference,was the move to penryn fabrication,same power,a lot cooler,the centrino 2 FSB increase might show on benchmark's,but I doubt anybody would notice it using the notebook.

I'd also pick the XPS 1530 any day over the 3450 powered studio,especially to play game's.....discreet or integrated....who care's,64 bit suck's ,have owned 2 64bit GPU'd notebook's and don't really want to go there again....on newish game's,they choke....badly,and imo belong in 12 or 13.3" notebook's,not 15.4.
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post #10 of 20
3/15/09 at 7:51am
gerry i agree with you in the processor you wont find any real big improvement over the older chip exept for the HD video and the draft N handlying capabilities but like i said i have the 3450 and play games at good res and with good rates i`m not a hardcore gamer so it works perfect for me and for the discrete or integarded thing i dont think you get the point and what matters is resolution not screen size but i dont think i`ll be playing any games if i had a 12" or 13.3" anyways and no 32bit its not better than 64bit ever in your dreams that there isnt any good drivers and support out there as of yet its another thing
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post #11 of 20
3/15/09 at 8:20am
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Originally Posted by gerryjoson View Post
I usually upgrade notebook's because of GPU improvement's,or because I want something different,not because of cpu or chipset's,.
what? well i usually upgrade laptops because of CPU upgrades cinse must laptop GPU`s cant be upgraded and to install better and newer hardware like wireless cards, optical drives, storage and memory and another thing first thing you take in count when upgrading CPU`s is? yeah the chipset, sorry you cant run that X9100 if you dont have an GM45 it just wont work
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post #12 of 20
3/15/09 at 6:43pm
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Originally Posted by djbbox View Post
gerry i agree with you in the processor you wont find any real big improvement over the older chip exept for the HD video and the draft N handlying capabilities but like i said i have the 3450 and play games at good res and with good rates i`m not a hardcore gamer so it works perfect for me and for the discrete or integarded thing i dont think you get the point and what matters is resolution not screen size but i dont think i`ll be playing any games if i had a 12" or 13.3" anyways and no 32bit its not better than 64bit ever in your dreams that there isnt any good drivers and support out there as of yet its another thing
I was talking about the memory bus on the GPU's,not operating systems......yknow....64bit for 3450,128bit for 8600gt,256bit for 8800gt.
If a 64bit gpu like the 3450 is good for you,that's all that matter's,but it's still weak and in no way better than the 128bit 8600gt......no matter how much you overclock it
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post #13 of 20
3/15/09 at 6:51pm
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Originally Posted by djbbox View Post
what? well i usually upgrade laptops because of CPU upgrades cinse must laptop GPU`s cant be upgraded and to install better and newer hardware like wireless cards, optical drives, storage and memory and another thing first thing you take in count when upgrading CPU`s is? yeah the chipset, sorry you cant run that X9100 if you dont have an GM45 it just wont work
my notebook does support the X9100....its an option when you buy it from dell.that's why I bought it.

yes notebook gpu's can't be upgraded,that's usually my reason for buying a new notebook,like I said.
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post #14 of 20
3/15/09 at 7:55pm
Actually depending on the laptop, some notebook GPUs can be upgraded. Such as my Vostro which can take the 8400 or the 8600 GPU
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post #15 of 20
3/15/09 at 8:04pm
i`m glad you made that clear it didnt made any cense to me when i thouht you were talking about OS architectures and yeah i would love to have and NVIDIA 9800 gt or one of does crossfirex ati chips in my studio but is not gonna happen i think even if it was an option for this mobo the price would hurt the decition making cinse this are more medium class laptops and not high top end class althou they are pack with nice features and yeah that was my point in saying that about your INTEL X9100 you could have gone crazy with the new QX9300 lucky you now for him i think if he is gonna upgrade that lappy in the future that xps comes with the GM965 as you can see that 2.5ghz processor he spoke about its the INTEL T9300 now the studio in the other hand must be a studio 1537 comes with the GM45 baby and the P8600 same as you had before giving him the option at a later time to upgrade to a T9600 or a T9800 or spend some extra cash like we did and get the X9100
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post #16 of 20
3/15/09 at 8:07pm
well you a lucky bastar dave lol
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post #17 of 20
3/15/09 at 8:25pm
lol

I will have to open up my new Studio 15 and see what's inside as well

I know they made CPU upgrading on it very very easy. You do not have to dissamble the entire base to get to it, one quick and easy panel and you have access to everything - Memory, CPU, WIreless, Etc etc
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post #18 of 20
3/15/09 at 8:35pm
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Originally Posted by dave-p View Post
lol

I will have to open up my new Studio 15 and see what's inside as well

I know they made CPU upgrading on it very very easy. You do not have to dissamble the entire base to get to it, one quick and easy panel and you have access to everything - Memory, CPU, WIreless, Etc etc

dave thats one of the resons i love my STUDIO i got mine plain and simple this was my specs
T5800 now i have an X9000
a 320gb 5,400 i upgarded to travel star at 7,200 rpm and sata 300
3GB RAM to the 4GB OZ dual channel
put a backlit keyboard and palmrest with the fingerprint reader
my friend needed a replacement LCD for his so i gave him mine really cheap and i got the LCD WLED version real nice i also put a wireless 370 bluetooth card and the link 5300 N and after that i replaced the mobo too because i had the X3100 before that was the easest mobo i ever replace in my life on a laptop

so yeah i love my STUDIO
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post #19 of 20
3/16/09 at 2:38am
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Originally Posted by dave-p View Post
Actually depending on the laptop, some notebook GPUs can be upgraded. Such as my Vostro which can take the 8400 or the 8600 GPU
Agreed dave,but I was meaning more specifically,upgrade to "next generation" GPU's like 8600GT to 9600GT.

The 1730 88 to 9800GTX is the only late model dell I can think of,everything else is either soldered on the MB,no bios support for newer GPU,or dell doesn't make an upgrade in the same form factor,which means buying a new notebook.
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post #20 of 20
3/16/09 at 4:14am
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Originally Posted by gerryjoson View Post
Agreed dave,but I was meaning more specifically,upgrade to "next generation" GPU's like 8600GT to 9600GT.

The 1730 88 to 9800GTX is the only late model dell I can think of,everything else is either soldered on the MB,no bios support for newer GPU,or dell doesn't make an upgrade in the same form factor,which means buying a new notebook.
maybe is a market strategy gerry no high end GPU card on the mid grade lappy`s so that they can sell a high end system with different GPU options you know with ebay and more international third party parts distributors if they offer the studio with an NVIDIA GeForce 9800m GTX nobody will probably get the more rugged looking XPS everybody will be doing just upgrades left and right i notice they offer in the alienware site the M17 with a base P8400 and an upgrade to the X9100 is $850 more when you can get that processor on ebay for $450 but you know thinking about it that would be great can you imagine the new ADAMO in 17 with a dual NVIDIA GeForce 9800M GTX and a INTEL QX9300 damnnnnnnnnnn that would be nice i hope they`l offer at least a 15.6" model on that ADAMO thats one sexy bee atch
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