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4gb over 2 gb of RAM

post #1 of 22
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In the next week or so someones giving me 2 2GB sticks of RAM for my m1710 since hes getting something new so Im just wondering, is there really any significant boost? Im running XP MCE with 2GB currently, Im not expecting this huge jump or anything but do you all think Ill see improvement? Im more of a gamer than anything else
post #2 of 22
I found it helped with some games, Enjoy
post #3 of 22
Will more memory help? Yes.

Will you notice the performance increase? Maybe, maybe not.
post #4 of 22
I noticed a bit of a difference with my e1705...

and hey if its free then heck yeah, it only takes like 5 minutes to switch them out.
post #5 of 22
If its free, then its definitely worth upgrading to. Determining whether the RAM will help you is pretty simple. Do your regular tasks, fire up a gaming session, etc and then look at your peak commit charge in task manager. If the peak commit charge is more than the total physical memory then extra RAM will definitely help you.
post #6 of 22
i dont notice any difference in my 1330, but some game improvement in my 1730. it is so cheap now might as well up your memory. i want 8gb in my 1730 but the cost is still retarded compared to the 2gb sticks so i will wait
post #7 of 22
As long as you're running XP you won't notice any difference. There have been many tests over the years which verified this. You'll have to look way back in the archives (4-6 years), but Tom's Hardware Guide, Anandtech, Ars Technica, and Bjorn's 3D websites have all tested XP performance with varying amounts of RAM and concluded that the sweetspot for XP was 2 gigs.

Back when the tests were conducted RAM was considerably more expensive, and most systems shipped with only 128-256megs. At that time they found that anything above 512megs the price to performance ratio went down dramatically, but that there was a definite performance increase until 2gigs. After 2 gigs there was no noticeable performance increase in either the benchmarks or "real world" XP usage.

If anyone doesn't believe me and wants to check for themselves there is a simple way to confirm without running extensive test suites. Just use the "three finger salute" (control-alt-delete) and bring up the "Task Manager", click on the performance tab and run whatever programs you would normally. The 2 lower graphs illustrate how much memory is being paged to the swap file. With 2 gigs you'll notice that the line is pretty much flat and only varies with a large number of applications and windows open. And even then the variance is only a small amount. The only exceptions being when manipulating extremely large files in those applications.

In any event 32bit Windows of any flavor doesn't recognize over 3gigs so any RAM above that amount is wasted.

On the other hand you have an E1705 that when partnered to the right Core2Duo processor is capable of running a 64bit OS. 64bit OSes will use and take advantage of all the RAM you can throw them. Something to think about.....

I hope this helps.

Ciao
post #8 of 22
Thread Starter 
Oh dont worry its going in my system either way lol, I was just curious if its really that much of a difference which it wont seem to be but hey, cant argue with free right?
post #9 of 22
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Originally Posted by dg5032 View Post
Oh dont worry its going in my system either way lol, I was just curious if its really that much of a difference which it wont seem to be but hey, cant argue with free right?
No you definitely can't argue with free.
That's always the best price!!!!

Enjoy
post #10 of 22
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Originally Posted by Tiburon666 View Post
On the other hand you have an E1705 that when partnered to the right Core2Duo processor is capable of running a 64bit OS. 64bit OSes will use and take advantage of all the RAM you can throw them.
Both the M1710 and E1705/9400 use a 32 bit chipset. Therefore, no matter what OS you use, you will not be able to access more than 3.25 GB.
post #11 of 22
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Originally Posted by zzpulp View Post
Both the M1710 and E1705/9400 use a 32 bit chipset. Therefore, no matter what OS you use, you will not be able to access more than 3.25 GB.
Not true, Core 2 Duo is a 64 bit chip, its jsut got a 32 bit OS installed
post #12 of 22
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Not true, Core 2 Duo is a 64 bit chip, its jsut got a 32 bit OS installed
No where in that post did I mention the CPU. I said the chipset. The CPU is 64-bit, the chipset is 32-bit, and the OS can be anything. You will only be able to use 3.25 GB due to the chipset.
post #13 of 22
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Not true, Core 2 Duo is a 64 bit chip, its jsut got a 32 bit OS installed
doesn't mean you have a 64 bit system
post #14 of 22
Trust us we had the E1705 and know from experiance 3.25GB is the max with any cpu, or OS.
post #15 of 22
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Originally Posted by dave-p View Post
Trust us we had the E1705 and know from experiance 3.25GB is the max with any cpu, or OS.
Hi, I currently have 2 x 1gb ram sticks.
Is it a good or bad idea to switch one of them by a 2gb stick, hence getting 3gb of RAM? Dows it affect dual-channel efficiency or whatever?
Thanks
post #16 of 22
if you have a 2 GB and 1 GB chip, you will not have Dual Channel.

Does it amount to much in terms of performance - not really


But IMO get 2 x 2 GB chips, they are dirt cheap now days.

The 3.25 GB usable from the 4 GB is still better than 3.0 GB, and you have Dual Channel operation as well.
post #17 of 22
Thank you for clarifying.
Am I still limited to 3.25gb under Windows 7 ?
post #18 of 22
it is a chip limitation, not an os limitation, so yes, 3.25gb is the max
post #19 of 22
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Originally Posted by dave-p View Post
if you have a 2 GB and 1 GB chip, you will not have Dual Channel.

Does it amount to much in terms of performance - not really


But IMO get 2 x 2 GB chips, they are dirt cheap now days.

The 3.25 GB usable from the 4 GB is still better than 3.0 GB, and you have Dual Channel operation as well.
But won’t you have problems related with the memory pagination over the 3.25GB (regarding the legacy reserved space between 3.25 and 4 GB)?... I’ve read that a few people had problems (BSOD, etc).
Any experience with this?
post #20 of 22
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Originally Posted by dave-p View Post
if you have a 2 GB and 1 GB chip, you will not have Dual Channel.
I thought that the newer systems (not so new now) are able to handle dual channel even if you have memory configurations that are not in pairs. Like 1GB+512MB, 2GB+1GB, etc.

I read that somewhere in this forums.
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