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post #1 of 17
6/1/09 at 8:44am
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have to ask, got some pictures of the cooling system here


my last notebook GPU became fried some how or another after i left it on over night just playing some music, I cant say conclusively why it happened but i do know, that the heatsink a few months prior had popped off, the soldering on the screw threads wore off so there was nothing pressing the sink down on the card, i fixed this issue with super glue and had a nice run afterwards, but a few months later, the GPU essentially seems fried, i get no display on my monitor or external monitors,

where i'm going with all this is that the manufacture seems to play a vital role in building a computer that wont explode 2 years down the road, so while there is a + that this system uses a replaceable GPU format, I was wondering what you hopefully techy guys could tell me about the life span of this computer, regarding its cooling system. is it efficient and safe? or should i be planning on buying a new computer a year or two down the road.
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post #2 of 17
6/1/09 at 1:33pm
It looks fine. The design is a common one, using copper heat pipes to transfer heat from the components to the fan. The appropriate contact points are screwed down, so it looks secure to me.
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post #3 of 17
6/12/09 at 11:49pm
The cooling is fine for stock 9800m gs speeds on the gpu and the cpu temps remain fine and I have an x9100 oc'd in mine.

I oc'd my gpu above 9800m gts clocks and bought a Zalman NC-2000 cooler for when I game and it works wonders.

You see the laptop cooling system is revolving around a vacuum system. The fan vacuum's the air from remote vents on the panel. Above the hdds, gpu, ram/chipset.

The mesh like circle is not a fan grill at all, it is a design made of plastic, on the flipside it has black tape. This tape is thereto help vacuum the air above the fan easilly, there is not mesh behind it, only more plastic.

I recently modded my G50 so that fan can directly suck air instead of pulling hot air through out the laptop. The fan is connected through copper wires to the cpu, chipset and gpu. Doing this mod will help suck fresh cold air to cool the cpu and gpu better but your hdd and ram temps will go up a bit. The hdd goes up to about 44C which is perfectly fine, Hdds can run up to 60C especially in many laptops and the ram you do not have to worry about.

The laptop is amazing and cooling is really good nontheless. I only did this mod to drop temps ALOT when on the cooler. Heres some pics if your interested.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...IMG_0299-1.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...5/IMG_0301.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...5/IMG_0301.jpg

Heres some pics of games on the laptop, Everythings on max including Crysis(postprocessing off of course)

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...0-58-48-73.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...3-03-12-34.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...3-21-19-90.jpg
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post #4 of 17
6/13/09 at 7:01pm
Super glue is not a fix for a stripped screw. That is likely involved in your failure. If it was a Nvidia 8XXX then even more issues.

This notebook should be fine. Are you certain the GPU is "modular" I know it is not upgradeable which makes think might not be modular.
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post #5 of 17
6/13/09 at 9:18pm
Powerpack the gpu is upgradeable. Finding a card to fit is the problem. Asus uses their own reverse mxm slot design so if you want to upgrade to say a 260m in the future you would have to beg asus.

The new G51 comes with a 260m and a bios supporting quad core. Laptop is the same internal design/mobo as the G50 series.
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post #6 of 17
6/14/09 at 1:36am
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Originally Posted by motok View Post
Powerpack the gpu is upgradeable. Finding a card to fit is the problem. Asus uses their own reverse mxm slot design so if you want to upgrade to say a 260m in the future you would have to beg asus.

The new G51 comes with a 260m and a bios supporting quad core. Laptop is the same internal design/mobo as the G50 series.
There's a difference between removable and upgradeable. The graphics card may be removable, but since Asus didn't use a standard MXM design, it's not upgradeable. I highly doubt begging Asus would have any effect. They're too busy doing research & development on the next notebooks on the horizon.
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post #7 of 17
6/14/09 at 2:41am
They are not doing research. The G51 and new G71 is already out. They were revealed and are being shipped out next month.
Since the G51 is the same chasis/ design/ mobo The g50 will support a 260m, making it upgradeable.
Whether the card be found now or in a few months does not matter, being upgradeable means that a 260m will fit and boot up.

Many parts of this laptop can be upgraded especially the cpu, ram, hdd, and screen. For example here is a 1920x1080 screen which is made by the same company that the G50 uses (Chi Mei).
http://www.lcds4less.com/chi_mei-lap...56o6-l01.shtml

It is a matter of finding the items though a web hunt.
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post #8 of 17
6/15/09 at 2:42pm
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Originally Posted by powerpack View Post
Super glue is not a fix for a stripped screw. That is likely involved in your failure. If it was a Nvidia 8XXX then even more issues.

This notebook should be fine. Are you certain the GPU is "modular" I know it is not upgradeable which makes think might not be modular.
No, the screw was fine, like i said, the threaded screw holes's soldering was weak and they eventually popped off the mother board, I don't have a soldering gun, so i put super glue along the edges and held it in place, so the threading would actually hold the heat sink down.
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post #9 of 17
7/1/09 at 11:35pm
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looks like my fears are unfounded, i have the notebook and it works just fine, even cooler than my last book, without the mod.

small question,
is there a way to tweak fan speed in this one?
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post #10 of 17
7/2/09 at 6:20am
Would you just want to use it for a while before deciding tweaking the fan speed? Try first with different power schemes settings?

cheers ...
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post #11 of 17
7/2/09 at 11:22am
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is there a dissadvantage to increasing the fan speed to full? currently it seems to constantly waver high to medium when playing games, i figure it could get pretty cool if it was just on all the time when I'm gaming, but it doesnt show up in fan speed at all.
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post #12 of 17
7/2/09 at 11:27am
There is no disadvantage when the fan is going at full speed to protect the system.

And if playing games does not get the fan going, why bother. I would just take it as you have not yet maxed the comp's power ;-) Unless of course, it is driving you nut with the heat.

Try to elevate the notebook a tad at the back?

cheers ...
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post #13 of 17
7/30/09 at 2:45am
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I'm having some problems getting the direct console to appear again. google only gives responses dealing with a dll error but i get no error, the thing just wont show up anymore
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post #14 of 17
8/1/09 at 9:58am
what do you mean by "won't show up"?
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post #15 of 17
10/1/09 at 11:07pm
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what do you mean by "won't show up"?
I mean if i start the program manually or use the LED shortcut direct console refuses to start.

In addition, my fan has ben acting up recently, and wont start unless the GPU is around 70-80C. if its not running at least a little, the computer will over heat as its happened before,
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post #16 of 17
10/4/09 at 4:07pm
you might want to see if you can install a more recent version of the ATK drivers. They configure the ACPI controls for the notebook, which would affect your fans.
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post #17 of 17
12/14/10 at 12:29pm
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Originally Posted by Superblah View Post

where i'm going with all this is that the manufacture seems to play a vital role in building a computer that wont explode 2 years down the road.
Yeah right!
This laptop like all the others with the Nvidia chipset uses the BGA (Ball Grid Array) method of fixing the chip to the PCB (Printed Circuit Board) which has prooven to fail time after time in almost all brands of laptop computers.
Asus have made this card removable as they are fully aware of the issue (although like all the rest will still not use the pretty much fail-safe method of fixing the chip with the traditional brass pins) and will save themselves money on replacing the whole motherboard in case the GPU fails under the guarantee period.
I'm sure though that they are quite happy for you to believe that this is done so that you can upgrade the GPU when a better model comes out, rather than replace the whole laptop!
Be sure to give me a shout when they release their new range of plug in graphics cards for their old machines and the BIOS updates that support them, won't you! LOL!
Oh and here is a picture of one I have with 2 GPU's that are shagged. I reflowed them both once and they worked for a few weeks longer but now this is the best I can get the video output!
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