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post #1 of 52
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im really naive on my laptop but since its supported at 4gb ddr2 ram would i be able to upgrade it to 4gb ddr3 ram? or possibly more? thanks.
post #2 of 52
Nah dude you can't use dd3 ram. Only ddr2 800mhz. If you have vista 64bit or W7 you can go up to 8gb ddr2 800mhz. It's ridiculously expensive for 2 4gb sticks though and the performance increase is not much noticeable especially when gaming. Better off using that $300 for a good cpu.

On the flipside, I have heard of Samsung 2X4gb ddr2 sticks for pretty cheap. Just google it. I know the stock ram is already samsung.
post #3 of 52
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Nah dude you can't use dd3 ram. Only ddr2 800mhz. If you have vista 64bit or W7 you can go up to 8gb ddr2 800mhz. It's ridiculously expensive for 2 4gb sticks though and the performance increase is not much noticeable especially when gaming. Better off using that $300 for a good cpu.

On the flipside, I have heard of Samsung 2X4gb ddr2 sticks for pretty cheap. Just google it. I know the stock ram is already samsung.
well i have vista 64bit. so even though this review says that its 4gb max supported (honestly have no idea what that means), i can get up to 8gb ddr2? uhh i heard that there are only 2 slots for ram on this laptop so does that mean that i would just stick in 4gb ram chips instead (i thought that ram chips got bigger as you got more memory)?
post #4 of 52
LoL no no silly!
You have a field of hardware information to educate yourself upon lmao. No harm done.
Physically, there are 2 sizes for ram modules. 1-desktop ram(about double the size of laptop ram sticks) 2- Laptop ram

I knew someone on a different forum which was very heavy upon G50 laptops and he successfully had two 4gb sticks inside his G50vt.
It will work trust me -_0 <---*eye wink*

Crucial, OCZ, Samsung, Patriot are all good manufacturers. Samsung being the cheapest in price but performance is all the same really.
post #5 of 52
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LoL no no silly!
You have a field of hardware information to educate yourself upon lmao. No harm done.
Physically, there are 2 sizes for ram modules. 1-desktop ram(about double the size of laptop ram sticks) 2- Laptop ram

I knew someone on a different forum which was very heavy upon G50 laptops and he successfully had two 4gb sticks inside his G50vt.
It will work trust me -_0 <---*eye wink*

Crucial, OCZ, Samsung, Patriot are all good manufacturers. Samsung being the cheapest in price but performance is all the same really.
mmmmm ok thanks....well i wont be sticking the ram chips in but ill have someone who actually knows his/her way around a computer to do it . ill make sure to check out those brands when im upgrading my g50vt tis summer
post #6 of 52
Dude man it is the easiest thing in the world to switch the ram, if you want I can show you a quick 2 step process with pictures! mmmmMMmm PICTURES O_O lmao
Lemme know if you want a little tutorial.
post #7 of 52
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P8000 series processor upgrade help (g50vt-x1)

hi guys, i have an asus g50vt-x1 and i was wondering what kind of processors i could upgrade to. i dont exactly have a budget but optimally i dont want to spend much more than 400ish (although i can go up if needed). which processors could i upgrade to? im looking for at least 2.5 ghz dual core. this will be used for gaming alot (especially during the summer, which is why i dont want to simply overclock my processor) namely fallout 3 and future games as they come out. if i could use any quad cores, then im open to using them (unless dual cores are actually better)... sorry guys i dont know my motherboard, however i do know that i currently use the intel core 2 duo p8400 processor. if you can please post both the model and the price, im trying to look for a really good processor (possibly the intel mobile extreme if they are good) that way i wont have to buy another processor for another few years, until i get a completely new laptop. also, if you can post a good place to buy these (perferrably at a store, i live in southern california). thank you again!! any kind of help will be good.
post #8 of 52
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isnt ram switching literally taking out the old ram and putting in the new? well if i ram upgrade ill probably also processor upgrade. and i dont wanna mess that up.
post #9 of 52
For the ram you literally push 2 tabs and it pops right out. It is the simplest and easiest thing to upgrade in laptops especially these days. The cpu can also be very easy if I make diagram based instructions for you. I find fun in teaching people how to mod up their G50's idk why lol the laptop is fun to play around with.
So ya if you by both I can gladly help you install it.
If you want I'll find you good ram and a fast cpu if you'd like just tell me your estimate of a budget you want to stay in.
post #10 of 52
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Originally Posted by fadingxero View Post
hi guys, i have an asus g50vt-x1 and i was wondering what kind of processors i could upgrade to. i dont exactly have a budget but optimally i dont want to spend much more than 400ish (although i can go up if needed). which processors could i upgrade to? im looking for at least 2.5 ghz dual core. this will be used for gaming alot (especially during the summer, which is why i dont want to simply overclock my processor) namely fallout 3 and future games as they come out. if i could use any quad cores, then im open to using them (unless dual cores are actually better)... sorry guys i dont know my motherboard, however i do know that i currently use the intel core 2 duo p8400 processor. if you can please post both the model and the price, im trying to look for a really good processor (possibly the intel mobile extreme if they are good) that way i wont have to buy another processor for another few years, until i get a completely new laptop. also, if you can post a good place to buy these (perferrably at a store, i live in southern california). thank you again!! any kind of help will be good.
The best you can get under $400 is the 2.67 Ghz T9550 ($336.64 at Provantage). If you're willing to go up to $550 or so, the 3.06 Ghz T9900 is the best dual-core CPU out there. (The only place I could find the T9900 for sale was for $425 on eBay)
post #11 of 52
I like Djembe's suggestions.

But I would like to spend a minute trying to explain a few things. You said you don't want to OC because of concern about heat. OC'ing a notebook because you cannot change voltages it does not have much thermal affect. Of course you monitor temps.

On your concerns about thermal issues? OK if you go to a T9900 the TDP is 10w higher. I 100% guarantee way greater heat than an OC on your current one. Also you talk Quad? OK 20w TDP? Your concern of thermal issues is misplaced if you consider either of those options.

On OC'ing your current if you can, 2.53Ghz should not be a problem. 2.7Ghz maybe but your RAM might be unstable at that fsb. But both of these are less thermal stress than any TXXXX or Quad.

Furthermore if for gaming what kind of results are you expecting? When I OC my ATI HD3650 to 500Mhz/800Mhz and get abot 5,000 3DMark06. My stock 2.53Ghz vs OC3Ghz is maybe 1 fps tops on Crysis. I know my GPU might be the bottleneck but I doubt you will see even 5 fps with any CPU upgrade you might really do. I would think 2/3 fps at most. In other games it will vary. But from 45 to 50 is not worth it. 70 to 80 not either. In most games the GPU does all the heavy lifting not the CPU.

Don't be disappointed if you get less than you expect. I think if a few more Mhz would of helped substantially Asus would of paired a better CPU with your budget gamer. I trust Asus to of found the sweet spot.

OC'ing is free you might want to re-think?

Good luck.
post #12 of 52
Would it be better if one upgrades the P8 series to another P series like the P9500 or P9600 if one is concerned about extra heat?

cheers ...
post #13 of 52
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I like Djembe's suggestions.

But I would like to spend a minute trying to explain a few things. You said you don't want to OC because of concern about heat. OC'ing a notebook because you cannot change voltages it does not have much thermal affect. Of course you monitor temps.

On your concerns about thermal issues? OK if you go to a T9900 the TDP is 10w higher. I 100% guarantee way greater heat than an OC on your current one. Also you talk Quad? OK 20w TDP? Your concern of thermal issues is misplaced if you consider either of those options.

On OC'ing your current if you can, 2.53Ghz should not be a problem. 2.7Ghz maybe but your RAM might be unstable at that fsb. But both of these are less thermal stress than any TXXXX or Quad.

Furthermore if for gaming what kind of results are you expecting? When I OC my ATI HD3650 to 500Mhz/800Mhz and get abot 5,000 3DMark06. My stock 2.53Ghz vs OC3Ghz is maybe 1 fps tops on Crysis. I know my GPU might be the bottleneck but I doubt you will see even 5 fps with any CPU upgrade you might really do. I would think 2/3 fps at most. In other games it will vary. But from 45 to 50 is not worth it. 70 to 80 not either. In most games the GPU does all the heavy lifting not the CPU.

Don't be disappointed if you get less than you expect. I think if a few more Mhz would of helped substantially Asus would of paired a better CPU with your budget gamer. I trust Asus to of found the sweet spot.

OC'ing is free you might want to re-think?

Good luck.
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Would it be better if one upgrades the P8 series to another P series like the P9500 or P9600 if one is concerned about extra heat?

cheers ...
actually it wasnt as much getting the best fps on current computers as much as i can have a good processor that wont need to be upgraded for a few years. im happy with my current fps on games, im just worried about future games, looking at "the last remnant" for example, its recommended cpu speed for dual core is 2.4ghz if i remember correctly now personally i just like being in the recommended spot and if more games come out with reqs like that game i dont really want to OC everyday. oh and i REALLY DONT KNOW MUCH OF WHAT IM SAYING, most of my concerns are probably misplaced, im just throwing out precautions that i think might be relevant. now with that said, apparently my fan is really really good, where i can be running games for multiple hours and the computer itself stays warm/cool. i dont mind extra heat as long as it doesnt mess up any parts of my computer (it being summer, and me being bored leads to lots of gameplay). thanks for all the help.

actually it would be great if you could post me a really nice cpu and some good ram pieces. i honestly dont have much of a budget, but ill say 700 because i dont want to drain all of my money (but its flexible). if you could also post where i can get the processor + ram that would be great (however i dont have paypal so ebay isnt an option for me, and me buying in person at a store is best). thanks, oh and i have a thread within the general notebooks section so you could reply here or there. thanks again.
post #14 of 52
I do agree lower heat is always better if the performance is fine with you. So yea a PXXXX has benefits. But I believe since other G50VT's have TXXXX I don't think you will have a problem with that. Until I see a G50VT with a quad thermal stress is a bit of a concern. And since I guess the point is for gaming (high stress) not that it can't be done but on thermal alone would think cooling pad and undervolting should be considered. Also has anyone put a quad in a G50? I don't know so just asking does BIOS support?

fading keep in mind if you got a T9900 I would still recommend OC'ing so I might not be the best advice giver for the conservative/normal notebook owner.

HWMonitor is a great free application. It will tell you your current/low/high temps of CPU/GPU/HDD. So you go game and turn off the game. You can see the highest temp things reached? Very cool.

Good luck.
post #15 of 52
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actually the t9900 looks like an awesome processor, i will definitely consider getting it when i can figure out where to buy one. however, would it be compatible socketwise to my laptops motherboard (im a complete novice at this stuff, so yeah...). that is one of my concerns on whether it is compatible socket-wise. oh and i would def. OC my processor, its just that i didnt want to overclock every single day just to play a game on medium/high settings (im looking a bit forward into the future where games require more than than a 2.26ghz processor for recommended or even required)
post #16 of 52
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Originally Posted by fadingxero View Post
actually the t9900 looks like an awesome processor, i will definitely consider getting it when i can figure out where to buy one. however, would it be compatible socketwise to my laptops motherboard (im a complete novice at this stuff, so yeah...). that is one of my concerns on whether it is compatible socket-wise. oh and i would def. OC my processor, its just that i didnt want to overclock every single day just to play a game on medium/high settings (im looking a bit forward into the future where games require more than than a 2.26ghz processor for recommended or even required)
I wouldn't have recommended it if it wasn't compatible

It fits in a Socket P slot and it's compatible with the Intel PM45 chipset, both of which your computer has.
post #17 of 52
All the current socket P C2D CPU's seem to be compatible. Even those with lower FSB's than 1066Mhz. Quads will physically fit but I have just started to read about BIOS issues? I might of read about G50 not sure but why I brought up.

And yes the T9900 is a good looking CPU.

OC'ing my CPU takes about 30 seconds. It is not hard. But yes I do not OC unless I want the performance for some reason. Keep looking nothing wrong with trying to keep your system in "tip top" shape.

Good luck.
post #18 of 52
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does anyone know where i can buy the t9900 outside of ebay, possibly a store? i dont know when ill be able to buy the processor, and the items on ebay are taken off after a certain time. thanks
post #19 of 52
You can try asking a system builder, such as RJ Tech.
post #20 of 52
crucial 2x4gb 667mhz ram is about 250 on newegg.come but that is a bit slower than the ram in you laptop now. 800mhz one will cost almost 400!0_0 my opinion is that 400 is way to much since the performance you gain is a small amount. Cpus when bought anywhere but ebay are very expensive, way to expensive compared the to performance increase gained. I recently threw in my x9100 and the performance increase depend on what games I play. cpu heavy games like crysis and cod went up a descent amount and I only payed $310 for a cpu that costs over $900 when bought anywhere else.
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