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post #21 of 69
7/25/09 at 6:24pm
50 points spread for an IM. I gonna try this with different IMs, it will be an interesting exercise.

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post #22 of 69
7/25/09 at 8:39pm
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i wanted to post my passmark file, but NBF won't let me

I wanted to as further verification.

How do I?

Jason
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post #23 of 69
7/26/09 at 2:36am
I usually just up date the comp's review in advanced mode, then add benchmarks from there. How did you do it? We can try IM later on to go through the steps together.

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post #24 of 69
7/26/09 at 9:02am
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I usually just up date the comp's review in advanced mode, then add benchmarks from there. How did you do it? We can try IM later on to go through the steps together.

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IM is simple. Just turn off your instant messenger when you're Benchmarking.

As for updating, I did the whole thing manually. Deleted the old benchmark and uploaded the new one.
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post #25 of 69
7/26/09 at 9:47am
Cool.

My thinking about IM is that I'd turn each one (Skype, Yahoo, AIM, MSN) on one by one then benchmarking. I am just curious about seeing which one of these would cause "more" drop

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post #26 of 69
7/26/09 at 9:51am
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Cool.

My thinking about IM is that I'd turn each one (Skype, Yahoo, AIM, MSN) on one by one then benchmarking. I am just curious about seeing which one of these would cause "more" drop

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sounds like a great idea! I only did AIM b/c that's what I have on mine. Feels good to break 1,500. I wonder what an SSD will do (it's on my hanukkah wishlist)

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post #27 of 69
7/26/09 at 10:11am
It will be interesting to know as well. I heard and read so many contradiction regarding SSDs that I am holding off in getting one. Plus of course the price is still pretty high for me.

Make sure that you refresh the wish-list a few weeks before hanukkah, peoples tend to forget due the busy schedule

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post #28 of 69
7/26/09 at 10:26am
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It will be interesting to know as well. I heard and read so many contradiction regarding SSDs that I am holding off in getting one. Plus of course the price is still pretty high for me.

Make sure that you refresh the wish-list a few weeks before hanukkah, peoples tend to forget due the busy schedule

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well I figure this:

the 160GB G2 X25-m SSD is $440 USD. I'm half tempted to get a T9900 just to max the dualcore, though that's not financially sound. I'm also half-tempted to dump in a q9100, but that'd void the warranty. So for now I think the best option is a high-speed SSD. I may also wait for the G2 X25-e drive to come out... whenever that decides to rear its little face.

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post #29 of 69
7/26/09 at 10:42am
Have you read the "news" about OCZ SSDs from MichelleG?

http://www.notebookforums.com/thread229033.html

Check it out - might save you beaucoup bucks

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post #30 of 69
7/26/09 at 11:15am
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qhn

that drive is a 3.5" monstrosity IIRC
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post #31 of 69
7/26/09 at 11:46am
The 3.5 casing - sure. It does say that it comes with other variant as well.

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post #32 of 69
7/28/09 at 10:34am
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post #33 of 69
8/6/09 at 5:56am
I have a 8662 as well, with specs almost identical to thread starters. Whilst I agree that this is a great laptop - no laptop is perfect and this one is no exception. The mousepad on this particular laptop is...well...atroucious. You almost have to hit the mouse buttons with a sledge hammer to get a click out of this thing. I'm talking extreme resestance here people. If you buy this, make sure to have a wireless mouse ready to use instead. You'll thank me later.

And one other thing - i'm getting max of about an hour worth of usage with this laptop just surfing the web. So yeah, don't take this laptop outdoors much, at least, not without a very long extension cord I spose its to be expected since it is a gaming laptop with high end specs chosen but still!

Now I know what i've said is all very negative so before the flamers pounce please note - i'm sure other people want both sides of the coin and my issues with this laptop are not subjective.
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post #34 of 69
8/6/09 at 6:08am
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I have a 8662 as well, with specs almost identical to thread starters. Whilst I agree that this is a great laptop - no laptop is perfect and this one is no exception. The mousepad on this particular laptop is...well...atroucious. You almost have to hit the mouse buttons with a sledge hammer to get a click out of this thing. I'm talking extreme resestance here people. If you buy this, make sure to have a wireless mouse ready to use instead. You'll thank me later.

And one other thing - i'm getting max of about an hour worth of usage with this laptop just surfing the web. So yeah, don't take this laptop outdoors much, at least, not without a very long extension cord I spose its to be expected since it is a gaming laptop with high end specs chosen but still!

Now I know what i've said is all very negative so before the flamers pounce please note - i'm sure other people want both sides of the coin and my issues with this laptop are not subjective.

hints to extend battery life:
a) turn off the pretty vista stuff to reduce gpu use.
b) turn down screen brightness to the minimum you can accept. The screen can cut battery by up to 40%
c) dont use the battery in high performance mode
d) the mousepad is horrid... I'm getting a mouse.

The reason we hold the laptop so high is because for a 15" laptop it's simply devastating in terms of performance. Those of us who have one went into it knowing what it was going to have as shortcomings (battery life and the mouse) and chose to overlook it in favor of the good things it offered. I'm not going to start a flame, or give a reprimand for a dissenting opinion. In fact, I'm going to rep you for being honest and bringing up something nobody else did. Good Job and thanks for pointing out something we all missed

Jason
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post #35 of 69
8/6/09 at 6:24am
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hints to extend battery life:
a) turn off the pretty vista stuff to reduce gpu use.
b) turn down screen brightness to the minimum you can accept. The screen can cut battery by up to 40%
c) dont use the battery in high performance mode
d) the mousepad is horrid... I'm getting a mouse.

The reason we hold the laptop so high is because for a 15" laptop it's simply devastating in terms of performance. Those of us who have one went into it knowing what it was going to have as shortcomings (battery life and the mouse) and chose to overlook it in favor of the good things it offered. I'm not going to start a flame, or give a reprimand for a dissenting opinion. In fact, I'm going to rep you for being honest and bringing up something nobody else did. Good Job and thanks for pointing out something we all missed

Jason
Hey, thanks for the props . It refreshing to see someone use reason in their discussion rather than emotion. You are right of course, the performance of this laptop is hard to rival. I've actually dumped vista in favour of win7/linux combo and no sooner have i turned the thing - its already booted to login. However unfortunatly for me, I bought this laptop blind. Yeah sure I did extensive comparison/research online, but I never had an opportunity to actually physically try it out. Hence the mouse issue.

On the topic of battery life, i'm actually gonna email sager and see if i can get a more powerful battery. Although I don't have high hopes because of the shape of it. A greater cell battery usually means a larger battery which would off-balance the laptop due to the batteries shape.

Side note: If you do buy from sager, their delivery times are ridiculously fast. I waited all of 3 days before mine came, and I don't live anywhere near the U.S.
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post #36 of 69
8/6/09 at 9:44am
I agree with the off-balance having a larger battery

My Gateway 7811FX back sticks out like a sore thumb.

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post #37 of 69
8/6/09 at 11:21am
I do not like batteries that protrude either. But they sometimes elevate improving airflow. XPS 1330m and 1530m come to mind. Just the silver lining behind the storm cloud. But I would bet about 100% you cannot get an extended. You see when you buy a second battery is the only option.

On track pad button being stiff? Oh do I know what that is like. Different model but my synaptics touch pad is crazy hard. I have worn the paint away and working on a hole less than a year on my sig rig.

This is designed for performance and that is not a track pad issue. Weight, battery life are unavoidable.
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post #38 of 69
8/6/09 at 11:29am
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I do not like batteries that protrude either. But they sometimes elevate improving airflow....
A good observation here, pp.

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post #39 of 69
8/6/09 at 3:54pm
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what i do to keep good battery life is when i'm using the mains, or ac power, i tend to keep the battery OUT of the computer... heat is a battery's enemy. The other thing to do is get a 2nd battery, sager doesn't make a "extra life battery", so if you really need lots of battery time, get a 2nd battery and keep that one at the ready.

Jason

PS: no problem, i welcome debate so long as it's justified.
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post #40 of 69
8/7/09 at 2:41am
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what i do to keep good battery life is when i'm using the mains, or ac power, i tend to keep the battery OUT of the computer... heat is a battery's enemy. The other thing to do is get a 2nd battery, sager doesn't make a "extra life battery", so if you really need lots of battery time, get a 2nd battery and keep that one at the ready.

Jason

PS: no problem, i welcome debate so long as it's justified.
No debate you sound like you do all well. That said let me say more, and this is not to address what you do but it might overlap.

As Jason said heat is the enemy. He is correct. Also if storing say long term OK a couple of months consider 40% to 50% charge. That also matters.

Edit: I also do not want to be NBR's joke. Consider you give them power by your response? I had more reps from members than Chaz the big man. I did not worry about this stuff. I was #1 and I said f you? Do not tell me about jokes? Only one who makes one a joke is ones self! Don't work on Saturday? cool with me but back the f' off on the rest of us who don't work on Monday? Oh yea you are more special? I thought so? Only people who make us a joke are people like you.

NBR pays people to write! Hello rocketman?
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