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post #181 of 229
8/29/09 at 7:41pm
Yea it's called M$, mine is using 522,000 KB. M$ is known as being resource hogs. Both in design and bad coding. That is one reason some do not like IE. Shut it down and restart computer it should lower. But that is not really needed you must have enough RAM or it would get thrown out. Basically it does not like to get thrown out of line. Not all bad because if being on the Internet gives better performance.
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post #182 of 229
8/29/09 at 8:32pm
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Yea it's called M$, mine is using 522,000 KB. M$ is known as being resource hogs. Both in design and bad coding. That is one reason some do not like IE. Shut it down and restart computer it should lower. But that is not really needed you must have enough RAM or it would get thrown out. Basically it does not like to get thrown out of line. Not all bad because if being on the Internet gives better performance.

In general, Vista also uses quite a bit more memory than other operating systems. So combine that with what powerpack said and if you've got lots of tabs open, it's possible to use that much memory with a web browser. My Firefox is currently using 173 MB of memory, for example.

Also FYI @ fadingxero: explorer.exe is one of the absolutely essential processes in Windows. Don't ever shut it down unless Windows says there's a problem with it.
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post #183 of 229
8/29/09 at 8:39pm
ok, i got it down and its now 100k which is a bit better.
now what are the real benefits of the different browsers? for me i found that
IE has the good interface and loads fairly quickly but isnt that customizable
firefox is the most customizable, has a good interface but it always takes forever to open a window.
chrome is always fastest, but lacks a good interface.
are there any true security problems with any browsers? or should i just stick with IE because it seems to be the medium between my 3 browsers.
also is windows 7 better than vista in any way? is my computer even compatible (for some unknown reason it might not?)
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post #184 of 229
8/29/09 at 9:02pm
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Originally Posted by fadingxero View Post
ok, i got it down and its now 100k which is a bit better.
now what are the real benefits of the different browsers? for me i found that
IE has the good interface and loads fairly quickly but isnt that customizable
firefox is the most customizable, has a good interface but it always takes forever to open a window.
chrome is always fastest, but lacks a good interface.
are there any true security problems with any browsers? or should i just stick with IE because it seems to be the medium between my 3 browsers.
also is windows 7 better than vista in any way? is my computer even compatible (for some unknown reason it might not?)
Finding which web browser works for you is somewhat a matter of personal preference. It depends on what aspects are most important to you (customizability, compatibility, speed, interface, security, etc) and which one does the best for those.

As to your second question.. In my personal opinion, Windows 7 is better than Vista in every way. It's faster, uses less system resources, is compatible with everything Vista is compatible with (as well as some things Vista is NOT compatible with), is more intuitive, quicker to set up, and more user-friendly. There have been various tests and reviews on the Beta and Release Candidate versions so far that, in my understanding, back up some of what I stated in the last sentence, that you can find all over the internet. If you want to know more about Windows 7 and comparisons to Vista, you can find a lot from a quick Google search.
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post #185 of 229
8/29/09 at 9:28pm
im most focused for security, speed, and interface in that order

a quick wiki look showed me that windows home premium supports 1 cpu chip and professional and up support 2 chipsets. can you explain this? also home premium mentioned something about a windows network backup thing. now is this some sort of virtual harddrive of sorts that can bring back all my data if my harddrive is damaged beyond repair?

also slightly offtopic whilst possibly on topic: apple is selling a macpro computer that uses 2 quad core cpus. essentially making an octocored computer of sorts. now how does this work where they can hook up 2 cpus to work in tandem? is this part of the 1 cpu chip 2 cpu chip thing? (like i can theoreically octo core my computer if i had windows 7 professional, etc?)
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post #186 of 229
8/29/09 at 9:51pm
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Originally Posted by fadingxero View Post
im most focused for security, speed, and interface in that order

a quick wiki look showed me that windows home premium supports 1 cpu chip and professional and up support 2 chipsets. can you explain this? also home premium mentioned something about a windows network backup thing. now is this some sort of virtual harddrive of sorts that can bring back all my data if my harddrive is damaged beyond repair?

also slightly offtopic whilst possibly on topic: apple is selling a macpro computer that uses 2 quad core cpus. essentially making an octocored computer of sorts. now how does this work where they can hook up 2 cpus to work in tandem? is this part of the 1 cpu chip 2 cpu chip thing? (like i can theoreically octo core my computer if i had windows 7 professional, etc?)
Well, for a notebook, you'll never need to worry about multiple CPU support. Motherboards that support 2 or more processors are almost exclusively only found on servers, which is why only professional and ultimate versions of Windows support multiple CPUs in one system.

The Mac Pro uses such a server motherboard, along with server-oriented processors (Xeons), to allow it to handle intensive multitasking and media editing. Unless you NEED that kind of computing power (and you'd know it if you did), there's really no point in paying the price premium to get something that powerful, since most people wouldn't use it. And yes, if you wanted to put Windows 7 on a Mac Pro with 2 CPUs, you would need to install professional or ultimate.
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post #187 of 229
8/29/09 at 10:17pm
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Well, for a notebook, you'll never need to worry about multiple CPU support. Motherboards that support 2 or more processors are almost exclusively only found on servers, which is why only professional and ultimate versions of Windows support multiple CPUs in one system.

The Mac Pro uses such a server motherboard, along with server-oriented processors (Xeons), to allow it to handle intensive multitasking and media editing. Unless you NEED that kind of computing power (and you'd know it if you did), there's really no point in paying the price premium to get something that powerful, since most people wouldn't use it. And yes, if you wanted to put Windows 7 on a Mac Pro with 2 CPUs, you would need to install professional or ultimate.
ok so just for clarification: lets say i have a computer with some server motherboard and a 2 xeon duo cored cpus at 2.4ghz. if i put them both in the computer, would it be equivalent or weaker to a normal computer with a quadcore of 2.4 ghz? following that method, essentially if i put windows 7/vista on a macpro i would be able to play most any game for a really long time besides having to upgrade the video card correct?
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post #188 of 229
8/29/09 at 11:22pm
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ok so just for clarification: lets say i have a computer with some server motherboard and a 2 xeon duo cored cpus at 2.4ghz. if i put them both in the computer, would it be equivalent or weaker to a normal computer with a quadcore of 2.4 ghz? following that method, essentially if i put windows 7/vista on a macpro i would be able to play most any game for a really long time besides having to upgrade the video card correct?
I would think that having two dual-core CPUs would most likely be more powerful than one quad-core CPU, although I'm not entirely sure on that point.

Again I would recommend against purchasing a multi-CPU machine mainly for gaming. You will most likely not be making use of the CPU power effectively. Games need to be coded a special way to use multiple core processors, so I would guess that they also need to be coded a special way to make use of multiple physical CPUs. You would see a much greater gaming benefit from having multiple graphics cards in SLI or Crossfire than you would from having multiple CPUs. A desktop with a single quad-core Core i7 CPU should satisfy the processor requirements for games for the next 2-3 years at least, and looking at anything too far beyond 2-3 years from now would most likely require a new motherboard anyway due to the way technology progresses. There are no systems that are gaming future-proof for "a really long time", as you wanted.
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post #189 of 229
8/30/09 at 12:16am
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I would think that having two dual-core CPUs would most likely be more powerful than one quad-core CPU, although I'm not entirely sure on that point.

Again I would recommend against purchasing a multi-CPU machine mainly for gaming. You will most likely not be making use of the CPU power effectively. Games need to be coded a special way to use multiple core processors, so I would guess that they also need to be coded a special way to make use of multiple physical CPUs. You would see a much greater gaming benefit from having multiple graphics cards in SLI or Crossfire than you would from having multiple CPUs. A desktop with a single quad-core Core i7 CPU should satisfy the processor requirements for games for the next 2-3 years at least, and looking at anything too far beyond 2-3 years from now would most likely require a new motherboard anyway due to the way technology progresses. There are no systems that are gaming future-proof for "a really long time", as you wanted.
ok thanks, this was more of a theorcrafting type of question than anything i would really do (at least for another 6-8 years or so). since games need to be coded for multiple cores does that mean i cant play any of the old games like doom 1 (first game that popped into my head) on my laptop?

oh and this point hasnt been brought up yet, but im somewhat sure the answer is no: can i ADD a graphics card to my laptop, along with my current one to enable SLI? is my current graphics card even capable of SLI regardless if i could add another graphics card? does SLI need 2 matching video cards? or can i use 2 different kinds ie my 9800 gt and a 9800gtx.
sorry i have lack knowledge regarding SLI and this thread actally taught me quite a few things
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post #190 of 229
8/30/09 at 5:26am
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ok thanks, this was more of a theorcrafting type of question than anything i would really do (at least for another 6-8 years or so). since games need to be coded for multiple cores does that mean i cant play any of the old games like doom 1 (first game that popped into my head) on my laptop?
Games manufacturers would be able to tell you if your minimum requirements will be met in this case - games for dual core "only" - when the time comes 6-8 years from now, which is more than an average life of notebooks at the moment.

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oh and this point hasnt been brought up yet, but im somewhat sure the answer is no: can i ADD a graphics card to my laptop, along with my current one to enable SLI? is my current graphics card even capable of SLI regardless if i could add another graphics card? does SLI need 2 matching video cards? or can i use 2 different kinds ie my 9800 gt and a 9800gtx.
As it stands with SLI, it is a NO if your notebook is not set up to support dual GPUs with SLI support. Though in the past, there was attempt to offer single video card running SLI technology - it was a flop!

As with any conventional "dual" support term at the moment, you'd need a matching pair of video cards (SLI), just like dual channel memory requiring matching pairs of memory modules, dual cpu with matching CPUs etc ...

cheers ...
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post #191 of 229
8/30/09 at 7:52am
fading your question about running "Doom" on a multi core, not a problem. You can run single threaded apps on multi core without issue you simply only use one core.

There are very few notebooks with upgradeable/replaceable GPU's you would likely know if you had one. There are three I can think of that if you only had 1 GPU you could install SLI Sager NP9260/NP9262/NP9850, some Alienware's and likely some other Sager's I don't know of. The Asus W90 can crossfire. And there is one other CF ArimaW840 I know of.
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post #192 of 229
8/30/09 at 2:07pm
of course its the asus w90.

i have a problem: for the past couple days, after my battery charges to complete and then i put it to sleep (it might be 100% at say... 3PM and i put the laptop in sleep mode overnight) i often get an error screen of sorts warning of the system resume. it says my battery reached a "critical level". erm...a bit concerning, i dont think this happened everytime at 100% and i know it never happened when my battery was below or next to 100% (~95%). at first i just glanced at off as maybe there was some activaty going on as i put it to sleep, closed the screen, and perhaps it sort of turned on again...yet the mouse was turned off, headphones unplugged, and ac adapter unplugged.
As my computer resumed (after that screen). my battery would be incredibly low, say 3%. the battery icon on my tray would say 11%. and after a minute or so would read the correct percentage.
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post #193 of 229
8/30/09 at 2:20pm
I would only put my comp in sleep or hibernation whilst on battery alone when I travel short distance and in need to access the comp within 30-40min.

If longer than that, then either the ac adapter will be plugged in or I shut the comp down completely, since it would drain the battery down otherwise after long period of time, especially overnight.

cheers ...
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post #194 of 229
8/30/09 at 2:52pm
Set when on battery it goes to hibernate. Sleep still keeps you at drawing power to keep RAM working, hibernate throws on the HDD. That said keeping Ram powered should not drain your batt in a day. You need to check your settings. I also have had issues.

So you have a W90? What are your specs? If only one HDD sure you can add another. Kind of expensive but sure.
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post #195 of 229
8/30/09 at 4:34pm
normally ive been able to sleep my computer and it only drained like 10% off, now its draining the whole thing?
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post #196 of 229
8/30/09 at 4:41pm
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Originally Posted by powerpack View Post
Set when on battery it goes to hibernate. Sleep still keeps you at drawing power to keep RAM working, hibernate throws on the HDD. That said keeping Ram powered should not drain your batt in a day. You need to check your settings. I also have had issues.

So you have a W90? What are your specs? If only one HDD sure you can add another. Kind of expensive but sure.
hahhahaha no... sorry i was displaying my discontent at how i have an asus, just not the w90. i woulda felt better if it was just sagers/alienware/falcon...but i hit the right brand but wrong computer. however, im planning on upgrading parts of my laptop in a few months (if possible)...im pretty sure my asus g50vt can hold a second hard drive? ill probably listen to you/qhn/djembe/nex (whoever said it) about using a SSD and ill just stick vista (maybe 7) on it.
oh and it and one of my usb ports broke so yeah...
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post #197 of 229
8/31/09 at 9:26pm
new question:
is there a difference between a harddrive for a laptop and desktop?
and: is there a "best" hard drive company or is the argument like an amd vs intel type of argument?
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post #198 of 229
8/31/09 at 9:54pm
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Originally Posted by fadingxero View Post
new question:
is there a difference between a harddrive for a laptop and desktop?
and: is there a "best" hard drive company or is the argument like an amd vs intel type of argument?
Yes, there are differences. Desktop hard drives are bigger than notebook hard drives, and the range of speeds is different. Desktop hard drives spin at 7200 or 10000 revolutions per minute (RPM), and notebook hard drives spin at 4200, 5400, or 7200 RPM.

Regarding the best brand, to an extent, it is a matter of personal preference. Two of the better brands regarding reliability are Seagate and Western Digital.

Also, keep in mind that solid state drives are completely different than traditional hard drives and are generally produced by different companies.
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post #199 of 229
8/31/09 at 10:04pm
are there any large (500gb +) notebook hard drives that spin at 10k or even able to put desktop hard drives in laptops (looking at the 10k speed, or even somewhat elusive 15k)
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post #200 of 229
8/31/09 at 10:10pm
I would think, if anything, the seagate 7200.4 2.5" HDD (i think it's momentus) would do a decent job as a desktop substitute until the 320GB Postville SSD comes out.

Jason
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