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post #201 of 229
8/31/09 at 10:15pm
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Originally Posted by ganzonomy View Post
I would think, if anything, the seagate 7200.4 2.5" HDD (i think it's momentus) would do a decent job as a desktop substitute until the 320GB Postville SSD comes out.

Jason
its for my laptop (asus g50vt). are there any faster speeds than 7200rpm thats like 500gb large? and SSD isnt what i consider an option due to the heavy cost of it (compared to its capacity)
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post #202 of 229
8/31/09 at 10:46pm
Hitachi, WD and Seagate are the big three. Seagate had the most recent major problem, firmware issues caused premature failure. Not a Seagate fan like Hitachi and WD best.

The 10,000 rpm VeloiRaptors are 2.5" disks but housed in a 3.5" form factor so you are stuck at 7200.
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post #203 of 229
8/31/09 at 11:17pm
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Originally Posted by powerpack View Post
Hitachi, WD and Seagate are the big three. Seagate had the most recent major problem, firmware issues caused premature failure. Not a Seagate fan like Hitachi and WD best.

The 10,000 rpm VeloiRaptors are 2.5" disks but housed in a 3.5" form factor so you are stuck at 7200.
so they arent really 10k rpm then?
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post #204 of 229
8/31/09 at 11:31pm
VeloicRaptors are 10,000 but the 2.5" platters are only packaged in a 3.5" mounting so they don't fit in a notebook. There are 500GB notebook HDD's at 7200. That is the biggest fastest I know of I have heard of larger just have not seen yet.
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post #205 of 229
8/31/09 at 11:59pm
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Originally Posted by fadingxero View Post
are there any large (500gb +) notebook hard drives that spin at 10k or even able to put desktop hard drives in laptops (looking at the 10k speed, or even somewhat elusive 15k)
many 10k & all 15k RPM hard drives use SCSI interface and are intended for servers. While they are 2.5" (the same physical size as notebook hard drives), the different interface means you can't put one in a notebook unless you specifically designed the notebook to allow connection of SCSI drives (which would require being a pretty high exec at an ODM) or you rigged the notebook to be able to run those drives (which would require nano-electrical knowledge, very sensitive tools, some solder, and a lot of time)
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post #206 of 229
9/1/09 at 12:57am
ok looks like ill get that 7200 rpm if possible. now does anyone know if the asus g50vt CAN hold a second hard drive? a quick google search led to the answer by someone saying something about having as second "bay" open but someone else mentioning that some powercable thing makes it so that the g50vts can only have 1 hard drive? so is it possible to have 2 hard drives. perhaps a small sdd holding only the bare essentials (virus scanner, spyware scanner, operating system, stuff required to let the computer run) in the second section (due to to horridly high prices of ssd).
this leads to a second question
if i have the ssd which holds the essentials to letting my computer run, but the second hard drive fails, that holds my games, and auxilary programs (AIM, microsoft word, etc) will my computer still give me an error message or will it continue running and not error me until i try to run said program?
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post #207 of 229
9/1/09 at 1:08am
It can hold a second HDD. And if your primary is fine all will boot fine, it will not crash the system you are not RAID'ing. So yea until you access the 2nd you will not get an error.
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post #208 of 229
9/1/09 at 2:17am
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Originally Posted by powerpack View Post
It can hold a second HDD. And if your primary is fine all will boot fine, it will not crash the system you are not RAID'ing. So yea until you access the 2nd you will not get an error.
thanks thats what i thought...mostly...
RAID is just regarding the amount of hard drives you can use/have in your computer? that bit is a bit...confusing to me. (i assume the raid bit from playing around on the sager and alienware website making super laptops)
pushing it, but a third hard drive? 4th? etc? i probably wont put more than 2 hard drives in my computer, again this is just my curiosity running around
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post #209 of 229
9/1/09 at 2:29am
RAID is a way of storing data on multiple disks. The basic is either you split the storage over multiple disks, RAID0. Have the same data on both disks RAID1.

Have a look at this, link to see what is up.
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post #210 of 229
9/5/09 at 1:52pm
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Originally Posted by powerpack View Post
RAID is a way of storing data on multiple disks. The basic is either you split the storage over multiple disks, RAID0. Have the same data on both disks RAID1.

Have a look at this, link to see what is up.
literally what you said is the only part that made sense to me. i dont undestand any other bits from that link other thank storage is split over mulitple disks (therefore the use of defragging?).
i notice when i have my fun with making "super" laptops on expensive computer websites, you can have more hard drives depending on your RAID number? how do i figure out which RAID i have?
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post #211 of 229
9/5/09 at 2:14pm
Defraging, do not consider, it is not apart of RAID in any special way. It is the same as with any HDD configuration.
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post #212 of 229
9/5/09 at 2:24pm
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Originally Posted by fadingxero View Post
literally what you said is the only part that made sense to me. i dont undestand any other bits from that link other thank storage is split over mulitple disks (therefore the use of defragging?).
i notice when i have my fun with making "super" laptops on expensive computer websites, you can have more hard drives depending on your RAID number? how do i figure out which RAID i have?
Unless you specifically ask for a particular RAID configuration when ordering (I know you can with some system builders), it is not set up by default. There are two basic versions that you could set up in your notebook:

1.) RAID 0 allows data to be accessed faster because it's "striped" or written on two hard drives at the same time. It requires 2 hard drives.

2.) RAID 1 keeps a backup of your data from one hard drive on another hard drive in case of drive failure. It also requires 2 hard drives, but in this case, you can only use the storage capacity of one since everything written on one disc is simultaneously also written to the other one.
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post #213 of 229
9/5/09 at 2:52pm
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Originally Posted by Djembe View Post
Unless you specifically ask for a particular RAID configuration when ordering (I know you can with some system builders), it is not set up by default. There are two basic versions that you could set up in your notebook:

1.) RAID 0 allows data to be accessed faster because it's "striped" or written on two hard drives at the same time. It requires 2 hard drives.

2.) RAID 1 keeps a backup of your data from one hard drive on another hard drive in case of drive failure. It also requires 2 hard drives, but in this case, you can only use the storage capacity of one since everything written on one disc is simultaneously also written to the other one.
so RAID 0 puts some info on 2 discs..meaning half a program can be on 1 disc and the other half is on the other hard drive? ehh sounds like i dont use RAID then.
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post #214 of 229
9/5/09 at 3:10pm
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Originally Posted by fadingxero View Post
so RAID 0 puts some info on 2 discs..meaning half a program can be on 1 disc and the other half is on the other hard drive? ehh sounds like i dont use RAID then.
But it "doubles" the performance/speed.
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post #215 of 229
9/5/09 at 3:23pm
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But it "doubles" the performance/speed.
interesting...now does that mean that one hard drive will be more organised than the other. like the c: drive might have like program files and such but wouldnt that other drive, the d: drive not have anything? so all those half programs would be sorta..scattered?
also: is there a way to fix a collapsed usb port? how can i tell if i can use 3 hard drives? i know i can use 2, as said by you guys but perhaps 3 drives?
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post #216 of 229
9/5/09 at 5:34pm
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Originally Posted by fadingxero View Post
interesting...now does that mean that one hard drive will be more organised than the other. like the c: drive might have like program files and such but wouldnt that other drive, the d: drive not have anything? so all those half programs would be sorta..scattered?
also: is there a way to fix a collapsed usb port? how can i tell if i can use 3 hard drives? i know i can use 2, as said by you guys but perhaps 3 drives?
C: and D: are drive partitions - basically, it's how Windows organizes partitions. They have nothing at all to do with having multiple hard drives or using RAID. To answer your question, RAID 0 does NOT mean that one hard drive will be more organized than the other. Both hard drives will be equally organized and will show up in Windows as one combined volume.

You cannot fix a collapsed USB port. USB ports are attached to the motherboard and from your posts I can already tell that there's no way you have enough electrical knowledge to replace one. I don't either.

For a notebook, you can have as many internal hard drives as there is room for. You can have a maximum of 2 internal hard drives in your computer. If you wanted to, you could also hook up external hard drives via eSATA, USB, or Firewire (IEEE 1294).
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post #217 of 229
9/5/09 at 7:06pm
I fixed a USB port on my external HDD. Bought a new one and some solder for $5 and soldered back on been working for two years. That said not sure I would want to solder on my MoBo higher risk of loss. My HDD was not working not much risk of making worse if my fix had not worked.

Sager NP9280 has three HDD's.

RAID 0 if two HDD's splits the write to both HDD's. So if each has a write speed of 75MB/s you almost double it by splitting the write. If 3 HDD's then closer to 225MB/s speeds. There is no limit to the number you can use other than environment an fit and RAID controller can manage.
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post #218 of 229
9/6/09 at 12:08am
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Originally Posted by powerpack View Post
I fixed a USB port on my external HDD. Bought a new one and some solder for $5 and soldered back on been working for two years. That said not sure I would want to solder on my MoBo higher risk of loss. My HDD was not working not much risk of making worse if my fix had not worked.

Sager NP9280 has three HDD's.

RAID 0 if two HDD's splits the write to both HDD's. So if each has a write speed of 75MB/s you almost double it by splitting the write. If 3 HDD's then closer to 225MB/s speeds. There is no limit to the number you can use other than environment an fit and RAID controller can manage.
assuming that i AM able to get the multiple upgrades to my notebook that i want..should i risk it to get the usb port fixed? i wont be going to anyone like geek squad or asus but (most likely) to this guy who basically set up a business from his house. hes fixed a motherboard failure (bought a new one and put it in the computer) on a desktop that my dad used.
tl;dr: risk fixing usb port to a random guy with computer experience?
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post #219 of 229
9/6/09 at 12:37am
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Originally Posted by fadingxero View Post
assuming that i AM able to get the multiple upgrades to my notebook that i want..should i risk it to get the usb port fixed? i wont be going to anyone like geek squad or asus but (most likely) to this guy who basically set up a business from his house. hes fixed a motherboard failure (bought a new one and put it in the computer) on a desktop that my dad used.
tl;dr: risk fixing usb port to a random guy with computer experience?
I wouldn't do it. I've messed up a USB port on a motherboard disassembly before, and I have computer experience. If there's no warranty backing his work and you don't know his qualifications, it's probably not a good idea.
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post #220 of 229
9/6/09 at 12:49am
You can't get the upgrades we have discussed to your current, the one with the bad USB so point mute.
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