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Calpella in a 9850 chassis - when?!

post #1 of 11
10/29/09 at 9:07am
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That's what I'm holding out for.

Also - does anyone have any thoughts as to whether the next generation GeForce 3xx series will be swappable into the Calpella rigs being released now?
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post #2 of 11
10/29/09 at 9:48pm
NP9850 will never go i7. Will it's step up model ever? I don't think so. Why?

Thermal stress issues. Simply put the current thermal solutions limit. If the NP9262 or it's upgrade ever goes back to dual GPU's then yea start looking. Until then a thermal wall.

I know what you want, I know why you want. But consider the NP9260 had dual GPU's. Don't you think the engineers noticed NP9262 didn't? Of course they did. But to release the i7 desktop CPU they had to shed the second GPU. If it was possible they would of kept. Trust me. Unless the CPU and GPU's TDP's can be reduced thermal management is the limiting factor. I would not wait or hold my breath at this point.

Sorry! How I see it.
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post #3 of 11
10/30/09 at 12:04am
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But the 9262 had the desktop i7, not the mobile i7. Does the Calpella chipset generate significantly more heat than, say, a core 2 Quad Extreme, which was in the 9260 and is currently in the 9850? Both have a max TDP of 45W.
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post #4 of 11
10/30/09 at 1:00am
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But the 9262 had the desktop i7, not the mobile i7. Does the Calpella with Clarksfield chipset generate significantly more heat than, say, a core 2 Quad Extreme, which was in the 9260 and is currently in the 9850? Both have a max TDP of 45W.
Including the chipset, the mobile Core 2 quads have a total TDP of 54.5W. The most powerful mobile Core i7 quad has a higher total TDP - 58.5W, but the other two mobile Core i7 quads have a total TDP of 48.5W, which is less than the total TDP for Core 2 CPUs. There should be no reason limiting the placement of a Core i7 CPU and Calpella chipset into a chassis design that could handle the heat output of a Core 2 quad CPU.

In regard to when Nvidia's 300 series graphics cards are due out, they have released some of the specifications for their new "Fermi" architecture but have no cards currently being sold, leading me to think that you won't see the new series in notebooks until sometime next spring, unless Nvidia does what it has done before and simply rebadges old tech with new numbers. ATI's new mobile cards are expected to launch close to Intel's dual-core mobile i7 CPUs in January or so. We shall see if Nvidia can keep that schedule or not.
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post #5 of 11
10/30/09 at 3:42am
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Including the chipset, the mobile Core 2 quads have a total TDP of 54.5W. The most powerful mobile Core i7 quad has a higher total TDP - 58.5W, but the other two mobile Core i7 quads have a total TDP of 48.5W, which is less than the total TDP for Core 2 CPUs. There should be no reason limiting the placement of a Core i7 CPU and Calpella chipset into a chassis design that could handle the heat output of a Core 2 quad CPU.
That's what I thunk. Wonder what Sager's waiting for.

Re the GeForce 3xx - any idea whether the future cards will be able to be swapped in for 280M, for example?
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post #6 of 11
11/1/09 at 6:38pm
OK Djembe you are correct. I got my models mixed up. I do think they do have a little thermal work to do. But as you said it is not insurmountable.

OK on that subject I read something between the lines on the i7 reading yesterday. The Turbo function that is so cool on the i7's in my opinion. Is not guaranteed to reach the listed upclock speeds. This is because a limited thermal solution will not cause it to run just hot. It will cause it to not upclock. As wonderful as Turbo is this does throw a new challenge into the thermal design for the MFG's.

Also and this is all speculation. A company does not want to compete against itself. I honestly think Clevo wants to make the choice clear. I think a mobile i7 with dual 280m's would bite at the heels of their "Worlds most powerful" notebook the 9262. It is called brand dilution I believe and they don't want to do.

That will hold the 9850 upgrade back. We will see. When 9262 goes Dual GPU yea look for.
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post #7 of 11
11/17/09 at 7:35am
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Do the Ibex Peak-M motherboards even support SLI yet?
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post #8 of 11
11/24/09 at 5:48am
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That is - are there any Calpella notebooks out there with SLI?
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post #9 of 11
11/24/09 at 7:40am
http://www.notebookforums.com/thread230723.html

cheers ...
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post #10 of 11
11/25/09 at 11:20pm
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Bit of a non sequitur...what's that in reference to, ghn?
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post #11 of 11
11/26/09 at 7:41pm
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Bit of a non sequitur...what's that in reference to, ghn?
My bad, was thinking about something else.

Clevo will debut its Capella 15.6" and 17" notebooks by Cebit 2010. So we should hear something about the line of Sager no later than next March.

cheers ...
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