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Dell releases a new Precision M6500 Core I7 laptop

post #1 of 94
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Just seen it on the Dells site today

The I7 Extreme CPU is an option for this baby.

Upto 16 GB Ram with 4 DIMM Slots

Windows 7 Ultimate OS

3 GPu options

ATI FirePro M7740

FX2800

FX3800

Various LCD panel options including the RGBLED

Raid 0, 1, and 5 support

Blu Ray or DVD +/- R drive

The lastest Intel 5150 Wireless card option

Contactless Smart Card reader

Finger print reader option


The starting price is $ 3700.00 In Canada

This is one expensive baby lol
post #2 of 94
Sweet. I was beginning to wonder if Dell was gonna quit on the Precision series as well. Time for me to see what this baby looks like. I'm sure I won't like it.
post #3 of 94
The chassis looks identical to the M6400..................... makes me begin to wonder anyone got a spare M6500 mother board floating around perchance????

Seriously wow - M3800 192 cores, this thing is going to be darn fast.
post #4 of 94
100 W TDP for the FX3800M vs 75 W TDP for the FX3700M
post #5 of 94
Are they not undercutting Alienware in the high performance machines?

cheers ...
post #6 of 94
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they are marketing this as a Buisness / professional laptop

and it priced like one as well
post #7 of 94
That is skating it. I have seen the business trend as to go back to a simple powerful version and at fair price, not a few 100 difference to go to a gaming machine. I wish them luck though.

cheers ...
post #8 of 94
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A fully loaded M6500 with 2 x 256Gb SSD drives, Blu ray , Extreme CPU, and the FX3800 GPU

priced at $ 8000.00 before tax lol
post #9 of 94
See what I mean? Businesses look into a more practicable machine for the users, and not doling out $$$ like they use to just to take advantage of a small portion of the notebook's performance.

cheers ...
post #10 of 94
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I for one would buythe base unit with the best GPU option and upgrade the CPU, memory, and hard Drives myslef.

Thant saves $3500.00
post #11 of 94
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Originally Posted by dave-p View Post
I for one would buythe base unit with the best GPU option and upgrade the CPU, memory, and hard Drives myslef.

Thant saves $3500.00
come on Dave we know you can do - get the 6500 and run it through its paces.
post #12 of 94
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Originally Posted by dave-p View Post
I for one would buythe base unit with the best GPU option and upgrade the CPU, memory, and hard Drives myslef.

Thant saves $3500.00
Still too high for a business/professional model.

cheers ...
post #13 of 94
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I could see the Engineering Department buying these
post #14 of 94
Are you kidding me? I'd go for a macbook first with this price

cheers ...
post #15 of 94
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Originally Posted by qhn View Post
Are you kidding me? I'd go for a macbook first with this price

cheers ...

not if i was using it for CAD software and simulations, Macs take a back seat.
post #16 of 94
uh oh ... we need to have a serious pow-wow over this
Granted, and a maybe, that this Dell model can beat the heck out of the Apple, but with that price/performance ratio ... no way.

cheers ...
post #17 of 94
This is what a good business notebook looks like

cheers ...
post #18 of 94
I'm not too keen on the m6500 Covet's red look. THe problem I have with it is, while it's an INCREDIBLY fast computer, (Reportedly, the FX3800m's clocks are 625 / 1600 / 1000 or something of that sort, saw on Notebookcheck.com, but they're not terribly reliable) I find the screaming red background to be un-necessary. I know the covet has some pre-installed features like the full WUXGA RGBLED screen, the 3800m, etc., but why paint the back red in a business atmosphere? Granted, a lot of modern engineering firms favor a little style in their workstations, but from my observations in business, dress code for humans, and to some extent computers, loosens in direct proportion to the strength of the economy. Personally, i like plain black; it looks the part in business (you can go from a CES show to a corporate meeting without incurring any ire), it's simple, and thinkpads and sagers look really nice in black.

Second, the wattage concerns me. I understand that nVidia is stuck at the G92 core process so they have to eke out whatever they can, but at 100w TDP for the laptop, and up to 55w or more TDP if one has a 920xm, that doesn't leave a great deal of power for other internals in the computer, even with the offered 240w PSU. Dell, in their halo model of precisions is moving dangerously close not to Alienware in terms of intended goal, but to the Sager NP9280, which has an i7 as well, but the full-fat desktop i7 with triple channel DDR3 and a proper RAID 5 kit (ie: you don't have to sacrifice the optical drive to get raid 5 in the NP9280). Back to wattage, having a model that is so power-hungry (in no small part due to the 100w GPU) and running on what is quickly becoming superceded by GDDR5 is not a quality DELL wants to have in its line of computers if it wishes to maintain its "green status". Granted, the wattage problem does lie with nVidia for being incapable of making a performance-and-ISV-ready yield of GDDR5 chips @ 256-bit bandwidth, but Dell should also be more conducive to letting the 3700m carry over if need be. It's essentially as fast as the 280m, and uses 25w less than the 3800m.

As for raw power (16GB DDR3, possible RAID 5 capabilities), Dell amazingly has held its own here. I was skeptical at first when the m6400 came out with 16GB DDR3 because the NP9280 had 12GB DDR3, but in the "we need gobs of RAM department", they seem to have succeeded quite nicely. However they are playing with fire in the "we can do RAID 5!" department. The key difference is that with the M6500, it has 2 bays, plus the option of sacrificing the Optical drive for a 3rd drive, making a dvd-rom'less computer with 3 hard drives. An oversized netbook in that regard. The NP9280 makes itself a proper raid 5, with the CD-Rom Drive intact, and this means not only do you have fault tolerance and striping, but that you can, without disrupting the RAID, burn any file you wish onto a CD or DVD or BluRay and provide it to a friend or colleague. The CPU though, doesn't concern me as much. Even though a NP9280 can have up to an i7-975, or the xeon w5590 (check eurocom's page, they will do it), the fact it uses a desktop-class CPU sort of makes CPU comparing apples to oranges, but strictly in terms of number-crunching, because of i7-9xx's features, gives it a huge lead over i7-x20-ym.

I want to see this computer succeed, but i also think that a large part of its power problems lie in the GPU. Blame nVidia for falling asleep for too long behind the wheel and waiting too long to start testing and developing GDDR5.
post #19 of 94
I guess everyone has their own preferences - I do prefer the Orange look over the dull grey, and sometimes one needs to inject a bit of colour in life & work. I have swapped out the for my 6400 old display first for Normal LCD 1900x1200 and now for an RGB LCD 1900x1200 which was a full lid swap (so now grey base red lid).

As for the raid 5 option I totally agree that replacing a drive to accept a raid 5 is not really a raid 5 system. As far as the FX3800 is concerned I guess the only option is to play wait and see, I know the FX3700 is darn fast - and heck I have no current desire to up mine to the 6500, that's assuming SWMBO would even consider this an option but I'm pretty darn curious as to the performance of the FX3800.

I don't believe you will see this unit compete with the Ailenware 17x - Precision units have always been the single most expensive devices and are priced well higher than what is acceptable in a consumer laptop, for non business use. The main advantage the 6400 has over most other 17 inch units is the ram scalability and it's very cost effective to get to 8gig RAM - which is one aspect I do like gives you some form of "future proof" or at least capability for the next 2 years.

For me seeing an i7 option in the Precision line as interesting, they have not yet been released in Ausi but I will be keeping an eye on this just to see how much they cost these units at.
post #20 of 94
No doubt part of the price of a Precision Notebook with Quadro FX graphics goes towards paying for the CAD/CAM, and OpenGL certifications. Its the same reason desktop graphics (Radeon, GeForce) cost much less than their workstation counterparts (FireGL, Quadro). The GPUs may in fact be the same, but if I am not mistaken someone has to pay for those certifications.
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