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SSD vs Raid 0

post #1 of 18
12/7/09 at 7:40pm
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Well, Dell decided to raise the prices of the SSD I was going to buy from $489 to $889 for their Samsung 256Gig SSD.

I am NOT paying that much for a harddrive so i am back to thinking about just buying a second 250gig 7200RPM hard drive and going Raid 0. This would only cost me like $70 or something.

Thoughts?
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post #2 of 18
12/7/09 at 8:51pm
Funny that when you build the laptop they only charge $ 500.00 for the SSD drives

But I agree too much $$$, and go with the second HD in Raid 0.

It will run faster.

But if saving the data is more important then get 2 x 500 GB drives and run in Mirror (raid 1)
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post #3 of 18
12/7/09 at 10:58pm
For that 489 price you can get the intel G2 160GB for your system drive like I did. Then use your current drive as you data drive.
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post #4 of 18
12/8/09 at 2:47am
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For that 489 price you can get the intel G2 160GB for your system drive like I did. Then use your current drive as you data drive.
wait what? Explain this...
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post #5 of 18
12/8/09 at 7:07am
Newegg right now sells the drive for $499 but I bought mine when they had a sale and sold it for $414. Buy this drive and install Windows on it from the DVD Dell provided. Then setup your current disk as the second disk and save your data there. I normally move the systems folders Documents, Pictures, Movies, Music and Downloads to that drive. I do the same with my M17 but I'm only using a 60GB OCZ SSD in it. Still works fine.
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post #6 of 18
12/8/09 at 2:41pm
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Originally Posted by NWGuru View Post
Newegg right now sells the drive for $499 but I bought mine when they had a sale and sold it for $414. Buy this drive and install Windows on it from the DVD Dell provided. Then setup your current disk as the second disk and save your data there. I normally move the systems folders Documents, Pictures, Movies, Music and Downloads to that drive. I do the same with my M17 but I'm only using a 60GB OCZ SSD in it. Still works fine.
Wow. Awesomeness. Doing this won't effect general speed right? Just when I am viewing pics or listening to music?
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post #7 of 18
12/8/09 at 3:15pm
It will affect it in a positive way. Windows and your apps will both be faster. Loading large pics, videos or music files will take just as long as they do now. If your the type that does a lot of video editing or photoshop you can keep some of those files on the SSD.
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post #8 of 18
12/9/09 at 10:12am
Provantage selling the retail version for $476 right now. LINK
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post #9 of 18
12/9/09 at 3:41pm
hey I am in the exact same boat. I wanted to get the OCZ agility 120 GB, but it costs >=$350. So I am considering raid 0 options. I just found the WD velicoraptor 10K rpm 300 GB for about $180. Has any one had any expirence with raid 0 or this HD? I'll post a link to it if ppl ask.
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post #10 of 18
12/9/09 at 4:46pm
That's a 3.5" disk. Actually it's a 2.5" disk in a massive heatsink requiring a 3.5" bay. You'd have to mod it to make it work and cooling would probably be an issue.

BTW, where do you see it for $180?
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post #11 of 18
12/9/09 at 5:19pm
I knew it was too good to be true! The pic on the web site is a standard 2.5 in HD without the massive heat sink. It was on this site compuvest. the pricing must have been a mistake b/c they upped it to $279, but it is still in my cart at $179. There is the link. So is there no such thing as a 10K rpm laptop HD?

http://www.compuvest.com/Desc.jsp;js...1v?iid=1050211
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post #12 of 18
12/9/09 at 5:24pm
I saw it for $199 at newegg. There are 2.5" disks at 10K and 15K but unfortunately they weren't designed for laptops. They require a special controller.
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post #13 of 18
12/9/09 at 5:32pm
Got ya, So what is my next best bet? 2 500gigs at 7200 RPM? Do you have a raid 0 going? I have 2 500gigs compared on new egg. Is raid 0 comparable to SSD? I know if you want an SSD now you have to pay a premium, but I can get almost 9x the amount of space for about $100 cheaper with these 2 HDs.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148374
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post #14 of 18
12/9/09 at 5:41pm
no, SSD is still faster. How about this LINK and use which ever drive that comes with the system as your second data drive. I'm doing it with a 60GB SSD in my M17 so I know 80GB is plenty.
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post #15 of 18
12/9/09 at 6:00pm
Ya I suppose I don't need a ton of space, but what I was planning to do with the SSD was to put my OS/some aps/my GAMES on it. Games being the big one. This HD searching is harder than I thought!

Question: Do SSDs also lie about the space that comes with the drive? I don't remember exactly why... We were talking about it and the ext2 FS in my systems programming course yesterday... final is in a week I should prob learn it. something about powers of 9....
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post #16 of 18
12/9/09 at 8:12pm
They don't lie about. Hard drive manufacturers are just dumb.

My hard drive is 160GB that does NOT equal 160,000,000,000 bytes but the people making our hard drives think so. 160GB is 160x1024^3 = 171798691840 bytes. So instead of showing a total of 160GB usable I only get 149GB.

BTW, ext2 is so 1990s You guys should be discussing ext3. ext2 isn't used in the common work place because it becomes easily corruptible.
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post #17 of 18
12/9/09 at 8:41pm
Haha ya... well this class we had to program our own Linux kernel in x86 and C needless to say I had the worst time trying to get my scheduler to work correctly and not page fault ever couple RTC interrupts ... not the most exciting class.

So to answer my question about size it is still the same with SSDs 80GB advertised wont really = 80GB IRL?
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post #18 of 18
12/9/09 at 9:02pm
Correct, it will be 74GB or so.
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