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CPU and GPU dilemma (new laptop --> Multitasking)

post #1 of 11
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I guess others have or will have the same dilemma, since the new "i" CPUs hit the market so here it is in a separate thread...:

My question is regarding the 2 currently most offered CPUs:
i5 520M and i7 620M.

For the laptop I am currently looking at and is by default configered with i5 520M, the i7 620M would cost me approximately 200 euros extra.

I am wondering if it is 200 euros worth it!? I initially wanted i7 only but now I am seriously wondering because of the price difference.

The i7 620M comes 4th/5th in the benchmarks, whereas the i5 520M is 13th.



What comes to my mind is that just an year or 2 later, the one will be at for ex. 94th place it the future benchmarks and the other on 102 ---> It wouldn't really matter that much

To be more specific here's what I use my PC for: putting all standart stuff aside (emailing (a few big email folders in my incredimail), browsing (the internet is my second home), documents (Acrobat Reader, Office...), chatting, movies, music, pictures (a lot of those - up to 10 000 in a folder etc.), every now and then I use Photoshop (currently CS4) as I am a hobby photographer and Dreamweaver for webdesign as I am supporting a small website which needs updating.

I rarely play games and if - I like some old classics such as Need for Speed, Quake (2,3), Counter Strike, Delta Force, etc.


What puts my current PC mostly under stress is multitasking. Yes, I am a hard multitasker and as I write those lines, I have a double task bar and 14 minimized windows (Most of them Mozilla, each of which has at least 2-3 tabs opened internally)

So taking the above into account - what do you think? Is it worth it investing extra 200 euros in an i7 CPU which is 8-9 positions higher in the benchmarks or rather invest it in another feature (some more RAM later on or SSD...)?

Regarding the GPU included in the subject line I have just one question - do you think Nvidia GeForce 310M would satisfy my needs or should I rather look for a different PC (as this is the only one offered for this one) with a 330M for example, which belongs to the "Performance" GPUs according to Nvidia.

Thanks for all your replies!!
post #2 of 11
My eMachines M6805 still keeps up with everything that my P-7811FX does. A bit of lack luster, but it plays the same WoW, CoD2 and run Photoshop (CS2).

That is to say that the CPU /GPU placing is way down the chart comparing to the ones in the P-78 series

Then to the point, do I want to put in another €200? I would say not really.

cheers ...
post #3 of 11
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Originally Posted by qhn View Post
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Thanks for your opinion!

I started with the idea for i7 and nothing else, but now that I see the price difference really wonder...

If it was up to say 100 euros I would most likely invest in i7... but 200 ... hmmm. And especially with my scope of activities maybe I would do more good if I add more RAM at a later point (it comes with 4GB) and a nice SSD
post #4 of 11
Now you are really talking More Ram and a faster drive investment.

cheers ...
post #5 of 11
I agree more RAM and fast drive.

260Mhz per core is not much for €200. It would do you absolutely 0 improvement as the tasks you describe. Heavy multi tasking. By the way your multi tasking appears to be "static" multi tasking. And that is 100% RAM. You see you have lots open but only actually using one at a time. So all the tasks not really stealing to many CPU clocks. But you want lot's of RAM so they stay in RAM and operate at light speed.

You don't really even need an SSD but if you want so be it. Remember even 200MB/s is nothing compared to 6400MB/s so RAM is the key.
post #6 of 11
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Originally Posted by powerpack View Post
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Thanks powerpack!

Well besides the few MHz extra, let's not forget that the i7 has 4MB Cache compared to 3MB for the i5.... that's what actually makes it more productive. But still --> 200 euros is quite a lot of money for such an upgrade I am starting to think...

Yes, you are for the most part of it right - I am more of a passive multitasker, although I also sometimes have something running in the background (winrar, copying, downloading), but more often the stuff in the background stays still.

As for the RAM - I am currently trying to find out how much RAM the HM55 chipset alllows? 6 or 8 GB ? Could anyone help here?
post #7 of 11
OK you think the cache is that important? You have listened to the cult of Intel very well. They would be proud. These are C2D but the concept transfers.

In the first image notice a 100% increase in cache does what? I can tell 25% you are talking about will have less impact. Also remember they both have the same L2 it is the L3 that differers. You see cache size starts to deliver diminishing returns.

To get that performance increase that you think the DATA would need to reside 4th MB? OK lets gamble on any piece of DATA I bet it is in the first 3MB's or after the 4th MB. That is a bet I will almost always win and that is why that 1MB extra is a minor performance increase. pp wishes he could show you the odds but pp math is basic at best.






Edit: Some Asus offer 16GB but have 4 slots. I would look for the maximum your model offers as that is likely to be the limitation not chipset.
post #8 of 11
Thread Starter 
Hmm interesting statistics indeed! Thanks!

To sum up - whether because of the extra MHz or thanks to the extra 1MB L3 Cache, or most likely both, the i7 620M is in fact 8-9 places ahead, but it seems that all 3 of us think it is not 200 extra euros worth it, right?

The notebook is offered with up to 6GB RAM (1 x 4GB + 1 x 2GB). But I think and the fact that they can put 4GB in 1 slot also prooves it, that it could take up to 8GB. Anyway, as 4GB in 1 piece is currently way overpriced as well it would have to wait 4GB would do for a start I hope

One additional question if any of you has already used an Arrandale notebook - How noisy and power consuming are they?? Arrandale has 35W TDP, whereas Clarksfield has 45W, but my previous laptop running Pentium M had only 21W TDP!

Read review somewhere about an Asus running Arrandale that the battery live is max 3,2 hours and with Clarksfield (4 Core) would last a bit more then 90 minutes...

Would an Arrandale CPU need a constant fan cooling when used for browsing and office applications?
post #9 of 11
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Originally Posted by moonland View Post
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To sum up - whether because of the extra MHz or thanks to the extra 1MB L3 Cache, or most likely both, the i7 620M is in fact 8-9 places ahead, but it seems that all 3 of us think it is not 200 extra euros worth it, right?

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Seems to be the consensus so far

cheers ...
post #10 of 11
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Originally Posted by moonland View Post
Thanks for your opinion!
And especially with my scope of activities maybe I would do more good if I add more RAM at a later point (it comes with 4GB) and a nice SSD
More RAM is good for multitasking, but only if it can be used. Are you running a 64bit OS? If not, 3.25GB is the max that Windows 32bit will use.

Fast disk is always good for multitasking, so is having multiple disks so swap and data can be on different drives.
post #11 of 11
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Originally Posted by ChrisLilley View Post
More RAM is good for multitasking, but only if it can be used. Are you running a 64bit OS? If not, 3.25GB is the max that Windows 32bit will use.

Fast disk is always good for multitasking, so is having multiple disks so swap and data can be on different drives.
I would be using Windows 7.
Well having multiple disks is surely not an option in a 13" notebook
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