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post #101 of 225
It's unlikely that the system will be much quieter with an SSD, since hard drives don't have fans - they're passively cooled. However, the area around the hard drive compartment may feel a bit cooler.
post #102 of 225
Djembe is correct. But because I am mad I can't watch USA/Canada hockey I have time.

Passive and Active are the two types of cooling solutions. Strictly speaking in notebooks fans and heat pipes are the only active cooling solution. So while Djembe said HDD's are passively cooled and that is correct. They use heat dissipation a very simple and crude method. But that heat dissipates to the rest of the system so it does have a measurable effect on the thermal solution. Thermal transfer is a more specific type of dissipation. At least in notebooks. It is not Active it is still passive but much more efficient. And almost always at the end of a heat sink and heat pipe you will find a fan (Apple tried to not have a fan once) which is Active.

The thermal solution and thermal characteristics of a system cannot ignore or disregard any heat generating component. As such while HDD's neither have active or aggressive passive thermal solutions, they still remain a sum of the whole. As such they are a factor regardless.

You see the way described in this rant. HDD's using dissipation? Which is heat transfer, CPU heatsink is heat transfer? Dissipation also. But consider, have you ever stuck your hand in a 400F oven? Yea not so bad? Very bad heat transfer. Consider putting your hand in 400F of molten solder, yea not so good?

Heat pipes I think are active because there is a "phase" change involved?

Anyway The heat from HDD vs SSD is rarely of a significance as to be material to "noise".

Of course if I could watch USA/Canada I would not be posting this way esoteric stuff.
post #103 of 225
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Anyone want to buy a G73?
post #104 of 225
Lost interest already? There is nothing out there for you to test now though.

cheers ...
post #105 of 225
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I don't like the keyboard at all.
post #106 of 225
NW are you a good/real typer or is it that bad? Missed keystrokes that you know you did? Say more.

I know you baby'd your G73. Never drove over 10mph and only to church on Sunday. Maybe you could get a better price with a little less history?

The more I think NW could you maybe get above retail for imediate delivery? There are people all over who just want and delivery dates are uncertain?

Last I heard, the last shipment was 230 units for the entire US. Going to take a while at that rate you think?
post #107 of 225
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Thanks NW and ziddy for your info and reviews.
I am putting the money together to put a G73 on order probably through Xoticpc.
A few of the other distributors are in California where I live and I can avoid sales tax through xoticpc and save a $100 or so.

I have a few questions for the floor:

Would you get the Blue Ray player or just the CD/DVD multi-drive?
Is not having eSata a drawback for those that use it?
Do you use RAID 0, RAID 1, or no RAID? If you use RAID 1 do you have any issues with the RAID controller going into verify if it detects something is wrong?

I probably would have a few more questions, but this is what I can think of right now.
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post #108 of 225
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NW are you a good/real typer or is it that bad? Missed keystrokes that you know you did? Say more.

I know you baby'd your G73. Never drove over 10mph and only to church on Sunday. Maybe you could get a better price with a little less history?

The more I think NW could you maybe get above retail for imediate delivery? There are people all over who just want and delivery dates are uncertain?

Last I heard, the last shipment was 230 units for the entire US. Going to take a while at that rate you think?
Let's just say the system is properly burned in.

If something were to burn out I would have expected that to happen already. There are many "common" issues with this system including random "gray screens of death", memory not registering correctly, systems suddenly stop booting and finally a keyboard lag for the faster typists. None of those issues affect my system except for the keyboard. I need to research it more because evidently it's an old issue with Asus systems.
post #109 of 225
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post #110 of 225
NW I suffer from the keyboard lag. Yes an old issue.
post #111 of 225
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NW I suffer from the keyboard lag. Yes an old issue.
Thanks. Have you ever tried changing the synaptics driver for the touchpad? I'm now using the driver from the synaptics website and the keyboard is performing better.
post #112 of 225
Thanks for the PM NW.

A question to the thread:

How bad is the keyboard lag? Is there any examples (video) of the lag that you know of?

I have a Belkin 8 port KVM switch that has intermittent lag and/or it repeats a key 10 times randomly.
If it is like that then the lag would be very annoying and I the lappy may make it out the window.
post #113 of 225
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Thanks for the PM NW.

A question to the thread:

How bad is the keyboard lag? Is there any examples (video) of the lag that you know of?

I have a Belkin 8 port KVM switch that has intermittent lag and/or it repeats a key 10 times randomly.
If it is like that then the lag would be very annoying and I the lappy may make it out the window.
It's been better since I changed synaptics drivers. I know some of it is my fault but wasn't willing to blame the whole thing on me.

A typicl sentence with keyboard lag ould look like this.
post #114 of 225
Hmm, interesting.
At least from what I am reading, this has been an issue for a while with ASUS?
post #115 of 225
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Hmm, interesting.
At least from what I am reading, this has been an issue for a while with ASUS?
Yes, multiple past owners including powerpack have told me this.
post #116 of 225
Actually it's a problem with ALL laptop keyboards. Keyboards that are not mechanical have a latency built in. If you want latency free keyboard, buy a mechanical one, unfortunately they tend to be quite expensive.

http://www.daskeyboard.com/

And if you are really hardcore gamer, you use a mechanical keyboard for that reason. You can click two keys at the same time with mechanicals.

Here is a guide: http://www.overclock.net/computer-pe...ard-guide.html

But yes honestly, any keyboard that isn't mechanical has latency, it's inherent in the design. No matter what laptop keyboard you use, it has latency. Always have and still do.

I type around 80-90 WPM so I have never had an issue and I'm not a hardcore gamer where I have keyboard latency issues.

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Hmm, interesting.
At least from what I am reading, this has been an issue for a while with ASUS?
post #117 of 225
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Not my Thinkpad.

Love that keyboard.
post #118 of 225
I feel like I am no longer alone. I am a one handed typer I have zero training. But I am pretty damn fast. I play guitar so I have coordination. And I had read briefly about just after I got.

But NW the way you typed the example is 100% what I suffer from. But since much of my typing is on say this forum not life or death. But it does get annoying.

So guys is this an Asus issue mostly? I have two other notebooks and never had this. I had a few others and never noticed this?

NW I will look into disabling (I mean updating? Or maybe disabling?) the touch pad drivers. I do not like the scrolling and disable the tap feature anyway. So will try I think. I hope it helps. Thanks for the tip!
post #119 of 225
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I feel like I am no longer alone. I am a one handed typer I have zero training. But I am pretty damn fast. I play guitar so I have coordination. And I had read briefly about just after I got.

But NW the way you typed the example is 100% what I suffer from. But since much of my typing is on say this forum not life or death. But it does get annoying.

So guys is this an Asus issue mostly? I have two other notebooks and never had this. I had a few others and never noticed this?

NW I will look into disabling (I mean updating? Or maybe disabling?) the touch pad drivers. I do not like the scrolling and disable the tap feature anyway. So will try I think. I hope it helps. Thanks for the tip!
The different synaptic drivers seem to help the issue. I had someone else test it and they said it made it worse. I uninstalled the synaptics driver and disabled the touchpad in the bios. The issue hasn't happened at all since doing that.
post #120 of 225
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Starting to work on the original post. Been preoccupied this week by an inner-ear and sinus infection. I'll try to get it done this weekend.
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