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sager np2092 video card busted

post #1 of 21
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I believe that my np2092 video card is busted. my screen froze and now when I boot i see nothing. to verify that it was not the screen, i connected an external monitor to the vga port but i can't redirect the output to the external monitor which leads me to believe the video card is the issue

can some one please suggest what i can do? Is there a way to replace the video card? If yes, where do i go about buying it?

thanks in advance
post #2 of 21
NP2092 is a Compal JFL92, has a 8600m GT. That card has a known history of failure. I think Compal GPU's are integrated into the MoBo so GPU replacement means MoBo replacement. You look like a candidate for baking your MoBo.
post #3 of 21
Thread Starter 
excuse my ignorance but does this imply that i need to buy a new laptop or can I purchase a replacement MoBo? is it even worth replacing the MoBo in terms of cost or it makes more sense to just buy a new laptop?

also where can i buy replacement MoBo for the NP2092 if that were an option?

Thank you
post #4 of 21
As powerpack mentioned, you can give "baking" a try first before deciding on buying new notebook or motherboard. Search our forum for "baking" "bake" and you will see loads of successful personal projects and tips.

cheers ...
post #5 of 21
dlal just to be clear because I was not as clear as I could have been. You can replace the MoBo but it is not cheap. It will cost say $400 to $500? So most at that point if not under warranty start looking at new notebooks if MoBo replacement is what is needed. With the high cost of replacement and no guarantee of longevity combined with the rapid advancement in notebook performance and cost reduction. Makes the MoBo replacement equation just not worth it. You can replace new with as good or better for $1000 or less new and that would come with a warranty. So just makes it hard for most to spend $500 on repair.

So that is why baking is the obvious answer for many. Cost, a little bit of your time. What do you have to lose? Nothing really already not working, if it is the MoBo it would need replacement anyway so can't really hurt it.

As qhn said have a look at baking guides as I have not ever had to do. But to give you a general idea. You would remove the MoBo and put in an oven at around 400F for a set amount of time, 10 to 30 minutes. This allows both solders that may have failed to reconnect. And in your case where the general problem is material incompatibility causing separation to reconnect.

I do not know where to get a MoBo I would suggest you start with the reseller you bought the notebook from or any reseller. And of course ebay.

And while I am almost certain GPU is integrated into MoBo nothing wrong with confirming as I certainly do not know everything about all models. Sager's are one brand I know more about than many others but I can still be wrong.

Best of luck.

And for those considering buying a Sager consider buying from a good reseller. I say this because the support in a situation like this is important. Because I am familiar with Xotic let me mention them and what could be done. They would even after the main warranty expired. Would secure the part from Sager or Compal and the labor cost would be free. In this case it would still likely be more expensive than worth but it would be helpful to have that option.
post #6 of 21
Thread Starter 
Thank you so much for taking the time to reply. I had not idea what "baking" meant So i will remove the MoBo and try to bake it and hope for the best.
post #7 of 21
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Thank you so much for taking the time to reply. I had not idea what "baking" meant So i will remove the MoBo and try to bake it and hope for the best.
You have nothing to lose at this instance Look into the Dell Section, there are a few threads and posts regarding the subject. Good luck.

cheers ...
post #8 of 21
Thread Starter 

baking fixed the problem.

to update everyone - i disassembled my np2092/compal fl92 based upon a service manual i found online for compal fl92.

the vga card is not integrated in to the MoBo and is removable. I removed it and baked it at 375F for 9 mins. The card was not too hot.

I any case, i re-assembled and voila .. it is working.

Thanks to all for the invaluable suggestions..
post #9 of 21
Link to the manual? Any personal pics to share?

Glad it works out for you.

cheers ...
post #10 of 21
Thread Starter 
the link is:
http://service.marasst.com/Compal/IF...IFL90%20intel/

The disammebly docu is Chapter5.

Unfortunatelty I did not take pics.
post #11 of 21
Good enough for us here. Thanks for sharing.

cheers ...
post #12 of 21
Another baking success story! Betty Crocker would be proud.
post #13 of 21
I just wanted to say that I was having the exact same issue. My external monitor did not receive a signal nor did my laptop's monitor worked. I tried baking my card and had no luck. Tried it again a second time later that day and everything seems to be working well.
post #14 of 21
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I just wanted to say that I was having the exact same issue. My external monitor did not receive a signal nor did my laptop's monitor worked. I tried baking my card and had no luck. Tried it again a second time later that day and everything seems to be working well.
Nice. So how long has it been now? Do you have to watch out for anything when using the notebook? Less demanding process per example?

cheers ...
post #15 of 21
Very helpful thread, I am happy the motherboard is baked and working again hopefully you can just buy yourself another powerful clevo someday.
post #16 of 21
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Nice. So how long has it been now? Do you have to watch out for anything when using the notebook? Less demanding process per example?

cheers ...
It's been about 2-3 weeks and no trouble so far. I put new thermal compound on the processor and gpu as well. I'm thinking about buying a backup gpu as I believe I will more likely than not run into this same problem down the road.
post #17 of 21
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It's been about 2-3 weeks and no trouble so far. I put new thermal compound on the processor and gpu as well. I'm thinking about buying a backup gpu as I believe I will more likely than not run into this same problem down the road.
Not sure about a backup GPU unless you can get a new one. Everything out there at the moment is just baked hardware

I baked one of my GPU twice so far, still running good

cheers ...
post #18 of 21
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Not sure about a backup GPU unless you can get a new one. Everything out there at the moment is just baked hardware

I baked one of my GPU twice so far, still running good

cheers ...
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Even if the card was unused, it still has the possibility in breaking down again as all cards manufactured by Nvidia were faulty. I suppose if the problem occurs once again I'll just bake the card again. Hopefully it lasts until my next upgrade (maybe when I graduate).
post #19 of 21
Sure it would, wishing you luck and hurry up with the graduation

cheers ...
post #20 of 21
I am ready to reassemble my laptop and have a problem. What are those blue pads on the heatsink/vga? Can I reuse them? If not. Where can I buy them?

Thanks.
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