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post #21 of 43
6/28/10 at 5:06pm
I just order last week so it will be 2 weeks maybe??
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post #22 of 43
6/28/10 at 5:29pm
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really dunno what to do, i want AW with dual GRU , but micro-stuttering ............ BTW is it in 20-30 fps in games only????? or in any fps??? Its interesting, when Dell gonna fix it ....hmm..
lets wait what silversaver gonna say.
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post #23 of 43
6/28/10 at 5:37pm
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ahhhh....I'm really out of it when it comes to the "latest and greatest" desktop tech.

These guys can help...
http://www.desktopforums.com/

Alienware will be releasing a 18" system with a SINGLE 480M.....and it will NOT be made by Flextronics. Expect something totally new.

I will be VERY interest in getting the 18" lappy with 2GB 480M, but just I need a lappy now that M1730 is bad..errr Anyway, I change lappy every 2 to 3 years and maybe next time.....

Already forgot what is before 1710 ----> 1730 ---> and now M17X

I like to order the top end CPU as 920XM, but it is just too much $$$ for the little performance gain. I was once crazy about ordering the "new" everytimes, but I don't find myself really need the top performer.

The reason I choose M17x becasue the screen were nice and the price with 5870CF is within my budget. It has 2 drive bays so I can use SSD + 2nd HD for data and backup. (I learn my experience with RAID 0 once it goes bad...) It is easy to open up to clean the CPU and GPU heatsink. I don't know if I would ever needed to change new CPU or GPU, but I like it to have the option to upgrade later. I don't know if AW warranty were same as Dell warranty. I really enjoy Dell's product and services.
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post #24 of 43
6/28/10 at 9:32pm
There is about a 2K Vantage GPU score difference between the 720 and 920. ATI cards like their processor speed.

Before the M1710 was the XPS Gen 2 and Gen 1.
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post #25 of 43
6/28/10 at 9:53pm
haha I guess I will live with slow 720qm for while since I am not doing too many games now I am not too crazy in ocing either just want a nice and fast lappy without spending too much $$$$
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post #26 of 43
6/29/10 at 9:57am
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haha I guess I will live with slow 720qm for while since I am not doing too many games now I am not too crazy in ocing either just want a nice and fast lappy without spending too much $$$$
lets wait ur AW m8 and i hope u gonna make few game tests for me and gonna explain me about micro stuttering .... i am still thinking about this laptop, cant change my mind ... ohhh so hard.
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post #27 of 43
6/29/10 at 10:40am
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There is about a 2K Vantage GPU score difference between the 720 and 920. ATI cards like their processor speed.

Before the M1710 was the XPS Gen 2 and Gen 1.
dude just tell me plz, with which FPS u got micro stuttering ???? 20-30??? or with any FPS in games??? how do u think when dell gonna fix this problems ??
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post #28 of 43
6/29/10 at 10:48am
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dude just tell me plz, with which FPS u got micro stuttering ???? 20-30??? or with any FPS in games??? how do u think when dell gonna fix this problems ??
I can't tell what you mean by FPS in this sentence. Is it...

First Person Shooter
or
Frames Per Second
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post #29 of 43
6/29/10 at 11:28am
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I can't tell what you mean by FPS in this sentence. Is it...

First Person Shooter
or
Frames Per Second
frames per second ., i mean how many games running with micro stuttering ???? and which FPS??? bcs i read, thats micro stuttering happend with 20-30 fps only. is it true?
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post #30 of 43
6/29/10 at 11:40am
No the micro-stuttering I'm referring to shows characters or objects "shaking" within the game. Doesn't affect the over-all frames per second. I've seen it in all the games I played.
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post #31 of 43
6/29/10 at 3:18pm
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No the micro-stuttering I'm referring to shows characters or objects "shaking" within the game. Doesn't affect the over-all frames per second. I've seen it in all the games I played.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Mob...e.29486.0.html

Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire

The Crossfire ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870 (CF) or ATI Mobility Radeon HD5870 X2 is a high-end DirectX 11 capable graphics solution for laptops / notebooks by AMD. It consists out of two single Mobility HD5870 cards bound together using Crossfire (similar to Nvidias SLI). So each card usually renders one frame alternatively. At the time of announcement (Jan 2010) the 5870 CF paired with GDDR5 memory should be the fastest laptop graphics solution available. Technically, the chip is based on the desktop Radeon HD 5770 (RV840) with a slower clock rate.
Because each card renders a different frame, the Crossfire solution may suffer from micro stuttering at 20-30 fps ranges, as the time difference between each frame is different. Therefore, the Crossfire HD 5870 may need higher framerates for a fluent gameplay. THIS ONE U MEAN????
The memory interface of the Mobility 5870 is composed out of two 64 bit wide controllers leading to a 128 bit memory bus that can access up to 1024 MB of DDR3 or GDDR5 memory (512 MB GDDR3). If (G)DDR3 is used by the laptop vendor the performance clearly suffers noticable.
The HD5870 CF offers 2x800 MADD cores (called Stream Processors) which are grouped in 2x160 5-dimensional groups. The cores support DirectX 11 functions in hardware (Tessellation, OIT, Post-Processing, Shadows, HDR Texture Compression). Furthermore, 16 ROPs, 40TMUs, and 40 TAUs can be found on each chip. All in all 2x1040 Mio transistors offer a theroretic computation power of up to 2x1.12 TFLOPS. ..................bla bla bla...............
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post #32 of 43
6/29/10 at 3:26pm
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............ SO IF u get micro stuttering in every game with any fps - its would means , thats driver , which u was using - completly unplayeble or u have got laptop with broken video cards, I just think so.... but mb i am wrong.
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post #33 of 43
6/29/10 at 7:17pm
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............ SO IF u get micro stuttering in every game with any fps - its would means , thats driver , which u was using - completly unplayeble or u have got laptop with broken video cards, I just think so.... but mb i am wrong.
I had no issues with my video cards. It is the driver which I've been saying. You cannot change it.
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post #34 of 43
6/29/10 at 7:50pm
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I had no issues with my video cards. It is the driver which I've been saying. You cannot change it.
so its one way only : to wait for a good driver, but i hope it will happen very soon.
i have seen desktops for same price : i7-930 , 6 gb, 5970, 24inc monitor , yeah its very cool one, i am still thinking....
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post #35 of 43
6/29/10 at 10:38pm
Don't think too much, just do it. There are new hardware coming out every few months. Find yourself a good discount coupon and pull the trigger. I don't think dual 480M is possible without a bigger chasis (cooling). Single 480M with 2GB might be a good choice. but...100w....lots heat.

Are you plan on spend more than $4000?? If not, there are 10% off EPP + $100 additional off expire 6/30/10 + free shipping. I got my system just at around $3000 after tax with 3 yrs warranty.
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post #36 of 43
6/30/10 at 4:53pm
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Don't think too much, just do it. There are new hardware coming out every few months. Find yourself a good discount coupon and pull the trigger. I don't think dual 480M is possible without a bigger chasis (cooling). Single 480M with 2GB might be a good choice. but...100w....lots heat.

Are you plan on spend more than $4000?? If not, there are 10% off EPP + $100 additional off expire 6/30/10 + free shipping. I got my system just at around $3000 after tax with 3 yrs warranty.
in Uk i7-720 , 2x5870 and the best screen cost 2150 pounds - its around 2600 dollars, but 1 year warranty, but aften 1 year u can continue it. i love this setup, but i wanna get it without any problems for this money.
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post #37 of 43
6/30/10 at 11:39pm
In US, the system I configured is $3,162 before tax with 3 yrs extended basic warranty.

720QM
4GB RAM
2 X 5870 CF
128GB SSD
DVD writer
6300 NIC
1200P LED
Win 7 Ultimate

20% EPP discount and free shipping put it under $3,000 after tax shipped. I trade in my old M1730 for $2300 which cost me $700 with new lappy + 3 yrs warranty isn't a bad deal at all

I like 920XM, but $900 upgrade is too much for my blood. I did think of upgrade to 820QM for additional $300, but why? It will not give me the performance worth of $300. I rather save the money for upgrade when I really need it.

PS. If I kick the 3yrs warranty ($299) and SSD upgrade ($179), I got the lappy almost free just paying the tax.
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post #38 of 43
7/2/10 at 6:54pm
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Originally Posted by Silversaver View Post
In US, the system I configured is $3,162 before tax with 3 yrs extended basic warranty.

720QM
4GB RAM
2 X 5870 CF
128GB SSD
DVD writer
6300 NIC
1200P LED
Win 7 Ultimate

20% EPP discount and free shipping put it under $3,000 after tax shipped. I trade in my old M1730 for $2300 which cost me $700 with new lappy + 3 yrs warranty isn't a bad deal at all

I like 920XM, but $900 upgrade is too much for my blood. I did think of upgrade to 820QM for additional $300, but why? It will not give me the performance worth of $300. I rather save the money for upgrade when I really need it.

PS. If I kick the 3yrs warranty ($299) and SSD upgrade ($179), I got the lappy almost free just paying the tax.
just a waiting m8 for ur laptop and result
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post #39 of 43
7/9/10 at 1:04am
received my lappy today. The strange thing the Windows experience Index only show 6 points for graphics and game graphics both... weird.....
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post #40 of 43
7/9/10 at 10:24am
New complaints about this card working in crossfire is not being able to run some games on steam and flickering during gaming. Get a bunch of tests in to see if you like it before your return period expires.
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