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T22 Locksup

post #1 of 15
8/9/10 at 10:54pm
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I have an old T22 that I use in the shop and it has suddenly deicded to lock up after a few minutes

What I know besides Iam and idiot

It doesn't do it just with battery
It does if you take battery out and leave power on.
There is no virus, registry is clean, hard drive is defragged
I've been getting erroneous messages to eject the CD drive
It seems to take a while longer to boot up and the hard drive runs a lot. But it always boots.

Its a plain jane 384 ram, 20 gig HD and a Belkin wifi card.

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post #2 of 15
8/10/10 at 12:15am
Sounds like a power issue - you aren't supposed to run without the battery in anyway, even when you're plugged in. I'd try running off a live CD, such as Kubuntu, and if that works fine, then it could be a failing hard disk. BTW, that machine will run 4X faster if you put in an SSD.
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post #3 of 15
8/10/10 at 12:30am
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Sounds like a power issue - you aren't supposed to run without the battery in anyway, even when you're plugged in. I'd try running off a live CD, such as Kubuntu, and if that works fine, then it could be a failing hard disk. BTW, that machine will run 4X faster if you put in an SSD.
Thanks
I was wondering about the HD. But i had read about some heat and heat paste problems. Was also wondering if the memory was losing it.
What is an SSD.
Like I said I'm and idiot thats why I buy the thinkpads. I have 4 and they just rarely give me a problem. Even less than my Macbook
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post #4 of 15
8/10/10 at 6:51am
Nothing about being idiot to have a Lenovo, actually it is the other way around

SSD ...

"A solid-state drive (SSD) is a data storage device that uses solid-state memory to store persistent data. SSDs are distinguished from traditional hard disk drives (HDDs), which are electromechanical devices containing spinning disks and movable read/write heads. SSDs, in contrast, use microchips, and contain no moving parts. Compared to traditional HDDs, SSDs are typically less susceptible to physical shock, quieter, and have lower access time and latency. SSDs use the same interface as hard disk drives, thus easily replacing them in most applications"

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post #5 of 15
8/10/10 at 2:27pm
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Nothing about being idiot to have a Lenovo, actually it is the other way around

SSD ...

"A solid-state drive (SSD) is a data storage device that uses solid-state memory to store persistent data. SSDs are distinguished from traditional hard disk drives (HDDs), which are electromechanical devices containing spinning disks and movable read/write heads. SSDs, in contrast, use microchips, and contain no moving parts. Compared to traditional HDDs, SSDs are typically less susceptible to physical shock, quieter, and have lower access time and latency. SSDs use the same interface as hard disk drives, thus easily replacing them in most applications"

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Thanks I'm looking into it. Th eonly thin I could think of at first was single sided drive and I knew that wasn't it

On a side note I thought I shut it down last night but evidently not and it was at the desktop all night. i was just notified that the Virus software had updated
no programs running and it has not locked up. Got a place where one could start looking . It hasn't mattered what program was running before.
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post #6 of 15
8/10/10 at 7:55pm
So is it ok now?

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post #7 of 15
8/11/10 at 12:15am
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NAh!
It must be female. I don't know what is going on with this thing. Soon as you pay attention to it, it starts acting up.
I always love these kind of things. NOT!
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post #8 of 15
8/11/10 at 12:35am
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Something to think about. Just got another load of updates from Microsoft. I know I read a couple weeks ago or so that they had a boat load coming out for some reason. just love those guys. Anyway thats about the time this trouble started. Reckon where you would find out if they were causeing trouble??
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post #9 of 15
8/11/10 at 11:26am
I always keep my Windows up to date and never experienced any issues. Time to perform a clean install and start it all over?

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post #10 of 15
8/11/10 at 11:57am
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Well got some updates last night and things seemed to have fixed themselves so far. We'll see
Thanks for taking the time. I may be back LOL Hopefully not
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post #11 of 15
8/11/10 at 12:02pm
Nice to hear. But do come back, no need to wait until you have a problem

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post #12 of 15
8/17/10 at 12:13am
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Well I'm back
I thought it was fixed but it has something to do with the power supply or AC. ITs working fine on battery but when you plug in the AC after a little bit it locks up. I switched PS from another thinkpad and it took longer but it still locked up. Any ideas out there.

I've pulled the PCI and it wont even boot all the way. Pulled the Ethernet card make no difference. I haven't got into the fan cause I'm not sure what happens when you pull both the battery and the CMOS battery. Will it reset itself when I put it back in. I assume I will have to reset time and date.
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post #13 of 15
8/17/10 at 12:27pm
Yeah you will have to enter date and time if the CMOS battery is being removed. What is exactly "locking up" in your case? System just froze?

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post #14 of 15
8/18/10 at 4:18pm
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Yeah you will have to enter date and time if the CMOS battery is being removed. What is exactly "locking up" in your case? System just froze?

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The whole thing just freezes. The only way to get it back is to do the power switch hold down for reboot. If its in battery mode it will boot up and work. If it is tied to AC then it might not boot at all , partially or boot up all the way and then lock up. How does it detect AC or battery. Is it a BIOS thing or Software. I was at the IBM site and couldn't find any BIOS upgrades.

I wish it would just be a "regular" problem so I could replace whatever and get on with it
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post #15 of 15
8/18/10 at 5:09pm
I am thinking that this is an issue of either hard drive or ram modules to cause the comp to lock up like you described.

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