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Staying in the UK, wanting to buy a new gaming laptop

post #1 of 29
9/6/10 at 6:37am
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are there any local brands (based in colcheter) that seel good gaming laptops with the possibility of having an international keyboard? I actually wanted to buy oversea but I'm worried that customs will make me spend all the money I might save by buying in the USA.

what do you think?
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post #2 of 29
9/7/10 at 7:45am
Would the money that you save = 19% European VAT + UK VAT? That's how much they can nail you from overseas items. They are plenty local European shops that sell gamers like ASUS, Cevo, MSI based notebook where you can save that 19% VAT. Search for XTreme Notebook per example.

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post #3 of 29
9/7/10 at 8:12am
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xtreme notebook is no good. do you know of any UK/EU brand that makes custom gaming laptops? that should help me save the VAT, isn't it?
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post #4 of 29
9/7/10 at 8:44am
You have to pay (local) VAT one way or another even buying within European block. XTreme notebooks are usually Clevo (like Sager). Support is a different ball game altogether.

I would recommend that you find a local MSI/Clevo/Eurocom reseller/distributor for your need. What about ASUS? They make some good gaming machines.

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post #5 of 29
9/7/10 at 8:50am
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I found Kobalt Computers and MSI Uk websites. buying online from them should be safe for vat?
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post #6 of 29
9/7/10 at 8:54am
We have 2 VAT here in Europe. The local UK one (17.5% last time when I lived there a few years ago) and the pricky 19% European VAT when importing anything outside the EU block.

So you will be stuck with the UK VAT if you buy anything from sites within Europe. I believe that UK is still part of Europe, non?

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post #7 of 29
9/7/10 at 9:58am
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I have to buy directly in UK then. (I guess the local VAT applies for any country?)
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post #8 of 29
9/7/10 at 7:14pm
Correct. Each European has its own VAT rate.

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post #9 of 29
9/8/10 at 2:55am
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like "we don't know how creative we can be in getting money from you!"
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post #10 of 29
9/8/10 at 6:18am
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Originally Posted by Dark_Ansem View Post
like "we don't know how creative we can be in getting money from you!"
more like "we will take as much $$ from you as we can until your eyes about popping out of their sockets"

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post #11 of 29
9/8/10 at 6:42am
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dammit, that place accepts no payment via installment. Uk is expensive for the rest of us!
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post #12 of 29
9/8/10 at 6:50am
I doubt that you will find any hardware sellers with financing nowadays (minus the big boys, may be) Too much $$ overhead to make a profit.

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post #13 of 29
9/8/10 at 9:20am
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paying all in once is suspicious, to me. I only have to hope after christmas prices will have dropped. or I have to sell my own laptop...

any other things I should be aware of, if I buy a laptop in the uk? I don't want to fry it in my home country due to different voltage...
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post #14 of 29
9/8/10 at 5:36pm
Voltage will not be an issue - notebook manufacturers go a long way to keep the internal working on the same wave worldwide, and the adapter adapts ( i love this) to different power inputs.

Paying at one time is not an issue for sellers. They need to survive, they can't afford to be part of the cheap ways to help out (selfish - my word) consumers.

And yes, price will come down some more before year ends, but watch it (my word again) it will sneak up starting next year.

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post #15 of 29
9/9/10 at 4:51am
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selfish consumers: it's not like I can't (or, more realistically) I won't be able to pay and I'm trying to cheat my way to a powerful system: I simply ask to have a payment fractionated, and not in £20 per year, obviously more.

why you say it will sneak up again in January?
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post #16 of 29
9/9/10 at 6:45am
Consumers by definition are selfish (me included) and tend to forget to look at the whole picture as how the economy works I am learning

Sellers feel that you can fractionate the payments with banks, credit cards etc ... saving them the pain of extra administrative overhead. I would not not blame them if they can't offer the service. There are others out there that would - with an extra cost, naturellement. Back to selfishness ...

Manufacturers are running at skimpy margins at the moment, something is going to break, they just wait and see which one will go first and boom! Easiest way is to re-align the product portfolio and adjust the price accordingly.

Another factor is that suppliers are learning the selfish game from manufacturers - meaning no more of that 100 extra parts lying around to cover the manufacturers back should they decide to order some more. Manufacturers are forced to think ahead, get the quantity they believe they need, order them. If they are short, their problem. So the retail price is the reflection of 10 units (example) and not 100 units (example).

Toshiba just did it with their Libretto model. Sold out, and the next batch will cost consumers more (with pre-order) and not less. That's survival

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post #17 of 29
9/9/10 at 8:54am
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and that still not solves my issues... definitely will have to sell my NB (and my soul with it, possibly XD)
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post #18 of 29
9/10/10 at 3:29am
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do you have any recommendations when it comes to selling an old notebook?
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post #19 of 29
9/10/10 at 5:10am
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do you have any recommendations when it comes to selling an old notebook?
Clean it up the best you can, make some screen shots of the system (Everest Home, Speccy), take close up pictures of all angles, remove the hard drive, be honest about the item working description and put it up on eBay or here in the for sales section with an asking price/obo. Use eBay going price for your model as a reference.

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post #20 of 29
9/10/10 at 9:48am
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why removing the hard drives? personal data protection?
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