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NP8887 won't recognize ide devices

post #1 of 9
10/23/10 at 10:27pm
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Grrrr. Got myself an NP8887 on the cheap, no hard drive included. I've renovated or put together enough desktops and thought this shouldn't be a problem. But when I boot up with a tested and working new drive installed the BIOS doesn't see it...or the optical drive. Immediately after 'auto-detecting IDE devices - done' I get 'initializing boot CD-ROM - none' and when I go the disks section of the BIOS, all are shown as 0mb. I can only open the optical drive with the paper clip trick, so not sure if it's dead, or if that's just a symptom of not being recognized by the BIOS.

In the BIOS setup primary HDD, primary and secondary ATAPI are all enabled, IDE-UDMA is enabled, and IDE 32 bit I/O is enabled. Tried with PIO both enabled and disabled, didn't make any difference.

Can't think what else to try, so I'm hoping someone here smarter than I might have a solution.

BIOS is Insyde Mobile Pro 1.01 (R3.06a.128), H8 version 03.15.24, Plug & Play BIOS version 1.17.01, ACPI BIOS version 1.00.12
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post #2 of 9
10/24/10 at 7:03am
Does it work with an external USB optical drive? The drive itself might be a goner .

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post #3 of 9
10/24/10 at 3:04pm
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Thnks for the thought but the drive itself is good, I hooked it up to another laptop via a usb/ide adapter, and it spun up and was recognized. So the poblem seems to be with the Sager rather than the drive.
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post #4 of 9
10/24/10 at 3:12pm
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Thnks for the thought but the drive itself is good, I hooked it up to another laptop via a usb/ide adapter, and it spun up and was recognized. So the poblem seems to be with the Sager rather than the drive.
Possible, but I would want to eliminate the optical drive issue for good and not thinking about the connector between the drive and the main board, seeing that you have the comp for cheap.

Or you can try re-setting the CMOS battery.

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post #5 of 9
10/24/10 at 3:52pm
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Ooops, sorry, I misread your post, thought you were referring to the HD. Good point about dealing with the optical drive first, don't have an external but one for the hardware collection might be a good idea anyway. I'll be back....
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post #6 of 9
10/31/10 at 4:43pm
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Well, I got myself a nice external drive, hooked it up and loaded a Linux live disc.....no difference. BIOS doesn't show anything new, but being old, would it show up a USB device anyway? Certainly there's no provision in the BIOS to boot from anything but hard disk, cd drive or floppy, those are the only options.

With my limited knowledge I'm guessing that I need to find out if the IDE controller is working, but how do I do that?

Or should I just be pulling the thing apart so I can get at the CMOS battery and replace it? It's an old computer for sure, the system time showed correctly after being turned off for a week so I assume it's good, but maybe not?

Sorry if these are dumb questions, I've gotten myself past the boundaries of what I know, so I need some guidance here!
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post #7 of 9
10/31/10 at 4:52pm
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Well, I got myself a nice external drive, hooked it up and loaded a Linux live disc.....no difference. BIOS doesn't show anything new, but being old, would it show up a USB device anyway? Certainly there's no provision in the BIOS to boot from anything but hard disk, cd drive or floppy, those are the only options.

With my limited knowledge I'm guessing that I need to find out if the IDE controller is working, but how do I do that?
Or should I just be pulling the thing apart so I can get at the CMOS battery and replace it? It's an old computer for sure, the system time showed correctly after being turned off for a week so I assume it's good, but maybe not?

Sorry if these are dumb questions, I've gotten myself past the boundaries of what I know, so I need some guidance here!
I am just as limited in this area. If good known hard drives are not being recognized then for me the board controller is gone - my charlatan approach.

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post #8 of 9
10/31/10 at 5:03pm
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That was my fear too, once I realized that neither drive was being recognized. Oh well, maybe I can get a few bucks selling it for parts on evilbay......

BTW, thanks so much for responding. Figured I'd be lucky if anyone responded to a post on something as archaic as the NP8887...
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post #9 of 9
10/31/10 at 5:08pm
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That was my fear too, once I realized that neither drive was being recognized. Oh well, maybe I can get a few bucks selling it for parts on evilbay......
A good move. Good luck.

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BTW, thanks so much for responding. Figured I'd be lucky if anyone responded to a post on something as archaic as the NP8887...
We are glad to have you dropping by. Come back often.

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