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post #1 of 7
Thread Starter 
First Off I know this probably shouldn't be here, but i don't know how many people really read the tech support forums unless they are looking for help themselves.

Second Off:

Hi,

I just got my brand-spanking new 8790 from UPS the other day and i wanted to give a little review and ask a question.

8790.....the shi@t. I love this thing. It runs so stable and smooth. This is definitely the fastest computer i have ever run on. Heres the spec

8790
3.0 GHz Prescott(1MB Cache)
1GIG RAM
60 GB 7200 RPM Harddrive
2X DVD Writer
TV TUNER
The 17" widescreen...etc etc etc

You guys know the rest its all stock.

1. Screen - NO....DEAD....PIXELS.....YES!!!!! I was really worried that i was gonna get a dead pixel and would have to stare at it for the hours i'm gonna be on this notebook but I got lucky.

2. Heat - I have not noticed any intense heat. The palmrests do get a little warm(the left more than the right). I really don't think I will have any heating problems whatsoever because the exhaust fan on the bottom of the computer(all the way on the right) when it's blowing, is blowing cold air all the time.

3. The fans are noticeable but this was to be expected.

4. The DVD Burner is incredibly NOTICEABLE, kind of unexpected.

5. Size - Holy SHI@T this thing is huge, but not prohibitively huge. The first time i used it it seemed like it would never fit into real life, but in the following days it became easier. It looked a lot smaller on the little screen when i was ordering it. I love having all the space though.

6. Keyboard- The numpad is great, and the keyboard is the best lappy keyboard i have typed on. My last IBM had these ultralight pu$$y keys which took some getting used to. This keyboard has a little spring in it. Very easy to type on.

7. Touchpad - I have never been a fan of the touchpad, but this one seems to work no problem. My girlfriends comp is a VAIO and the touchpad on it totally blows. This one is very responsive and sturdy to the touch.

8. Speakers - The speakers are definitely the best laptop speakers I have ever heard. When playing things like counterstrike and others it's fine to have them running. But for music, or sound intense movies, definitely need a set of real ones.

9. I ran some benchmarking (just 3DMark2001) on the minimum settings i got something like 3500. When i overclocked i got somewheres around 3900. No artifacting with the overclock, I used some specs that Adam recommended. Call of Duty runs great with everything on high. I haven't actually bought many new games recently because my IBM sucked so much a$$. Counterstrike looks beautiful on the widescreen setting. I peg the FPS meter on CS at 71 with all settings on full.

So now here's my problem.

The wireless situation is a mess. The Giga-Byte 802.11g GN-WIAG card is installed in the mini PCI slot under the harddrive. Right out of the box(on the second startup) I got wireless signal and was on the internet. I used the lappy for 2 days. I woke up on the third day and the wireless was completely screwed up. I wasn't getting signal from anything. I'm using a Linksys BEFW11S4. The router is in my room so i cabled up to make sure it was working and it was. I used my IBM(it has 802.11b) to check the signal upstairs in the house and it was getting useable signal. Throughout the day, the wireless would come back and go away. However when it would come back, i would never get a DHCP address like i should've i would just get link, but no IP.

So i searched around the forums and found the fix tried by mrich(switching the wires on the 802.11g card) and that didn't help. I was stumped. I started looking at the wireless available networks and there was one in there called "default" I clicked that one and I was online. I could surf the net etc. and this was really weird to me.

I couldn't see the 802.11b router that's 10 feet away in my own room, but i was picking up someone else's wireless signal from their house. I found out that their router was a G wireless router and they didn't change their passwords, so i turned off their wireless.

BOOM, not a minute later, my 802.11b router came back to me. Very weird. So my questions are...

1. Is an 802.11g router so powerful that it will saturate the signal of an 802.11b router that is closer.

2. Is there anyway with the GN-WIAG to ignore the 802.11g signal and just look for 802.11b signal.

3. This is my first computer review, how do you guys think i did?

As an aside, because i think that's all it deserves, I called SAGER tech support and they totally suck. The guy on the other end of the phone was really not competent at all. It seemed like he was doing the tech support from memory. He didn't have any idea what screens looked like or what should be on them. All the settings on my laptop have worked before and he was telling me that there was something not the same between the GN-WIAG card and the Linksys Router(i.e. WEP, "something else"). Very dissapointed in them.

edit: Another weird thing that is happening is that in the G-EZ link utility, when i do get connected to the wireless, the Transmit signal packets are very high(in the thousands) but the receive signal packets are very low(in the tens). Very weird.

Thanks for the READ and i hope i get this fixed(here's hoping: )

PS please excuse any spelling errors.
post #2 of 7
I'm not surprised the Sager guy wasn't much help -- this really sounds like a wireless router problem, and not a problem with the Sager.

To answer your questions:

Quote:
1. Is an 802.11g router so powerful that it will saturate the signal of an 802.11b router that is closer.
Maybe. 802.11g does have a stronger signal, so if the two are interfering with each other, it's not surprising the 802.11g router would win. Especially if it's a higher-power router than your little LinkSys. I've got a Cisco that could put out a better signal than your LinkSys from a block away.

Quote:
2. Is there anyway with the GN-WIAG to ignore the 802.11g signal and just look for 802.11b signal.
Probably not -- 802.11g routers are 802.11b compatible, so you're going to get an "802.11g signal" from both routers.

Quote:
3. This is my first computer review, how do you guys think i did?
Not too bad, but you were right at the beginning. The review and the wireless router questions really should be two different posts.
post #3 of 7
Try changing the channel from the default 6/11.
Also, set the WiFi to the 'b' standard only. It's on one of the config screens.
post #4 of 7
Thread Starter 
Hey G-Omaha, do you have any specifics on that screen? I actually looked for that but couldn't find it anywhere, perhaps i missed it...

Thanks
post #5 of 7
I don't have my 8790 any more and am waiting ofr another one. It was part of the configuration screens, from the best of my memory.
post #6 of 7
Thread Starter 
Hey all,

Just an update. I spent all day trying to get various things to work with the wireless. My final solution has been to rip the miniPCI 802.11b card from the laptop i'm no longer using and put it in the 8790. Now everything is working fine. I have good range and good throughput which is all i wanted.

Thanks to those who posted replies, they were appreciated

-j
post #7 of 7
Your antenna on the internal was probably hooked up wrong, from the factory.
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