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mini-PCIe motherboard standoff

post #1 of 12
2/2/11 at 12:22pm
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I'm trying to find, buy and install those little mini-PCIe standoffs used to secure the cards to the motherboard. I can't find these via ebay or google, or even figure out what they're called.

My 8510p has three mini-PCI-express 1x slots, two of which are filled with evdo and wifi cards. I want to use the third slot for an SSD, but that slot is missing these little brass standoffs in the mounting holes.

Two slots are visible with the touchpad removed (the left connector wasn't installed on this mobo, but mine has it). My left-hand slot is also empty.


A closer look, but you can't see the holes:



From above, you can see that each connector has two mounting holes above them for a 50mm card. The right slot has the threaded brass standoffs, but like this one, my left one does not, just a bare motherboard hole with the usual clad metal grounding pad (or whatever those are).



Any idea where to get these? And assuming I can get them, how are they installed on the motherboard (do I have to remove it) ?

(from article: http://www.insidemylaptop.com/disass...w-notebook-pc/)

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post #2 of 12
2/5/11 at 2:51pm
You will have to remove the laptop motherboard to get to the other side. Take one of the stand offs off the other mini PCI-e slot (use a pair of pliers to loosen it or usually a 5mm spanner).. It is usually screwed into a brass holder that is glued into the plastic case. If there is none there for the other card slot, use a nut of suitable size and a non metal washer to hold it in place...
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post #3 of 12
2/7/11 at 3:25am
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That's a few good ideas, thanks.

Any idea whether these "slots" are PCIe or mSata or something else? I just read today that there is no standard for Mini PCIe 1x for notebooks --- it's just a connector, not necessarily a pci express slot at all. It may actually be a SATA connection, and many of the SSDs for this are actually SATA with this connector. Without knowing what these things are, it's impossible to know what can be used (even safely).
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post #4 of 12
2/7/11 at 1:47pm
Most are usually mini PCI-e ports, one for the wifi card and usually one for a Wireless-G modem... The SATA ones look like SATA ports, but the SATA SSD drives like the ones in the Eee PC's are mini PCI-e, the card itself which holds the SS chips determines whether it is SATA or IDE...
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post #5 of 12
1/15/12 at 9:25pm

Hi Doug_ny.

Are you able to use your 8510p's third slot for a ssd?

Mine only has one slot for a wlan use. I have tried in vain to use that slot for a mdata ssd. The ssd is not recognized by the system. I have read somewhere that the BIOS detects a wifi card to enable that slot. My options are now to be able to solder 2 more mini pci-e adapters in 2 empty connectors shown in my picture below. I am not sure if either one can be used for a sdd or not.

Any advice will be appreciated.

 

Thank you in advance for your info.
 

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7169/6706187789_bfc074ec70_z.jpg

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post #6 of 12
1/28/12 at 1:00pm
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Originally Posted by mhoale View Post

Hi Doug_ny.


Are you able to use your 8510p's third slot for a ssd?

mhoale,
wow, this is an old thread.

With the mini-pcie SSDs, you have to be aware of whether it's an mSATA or not. The mSATA SSDs use the same connector, but it does not use the PCIe interface, it uses SATA. If both the slot and the SSD are PCIe, the SSD will have some kind of IDE or SATA chip on it to provide a recognizable storage interface to the system. But mostly, that SSD format comes in mSATA.

I'm not sure if the 8510 in itself supports mSATA, or whether it might work because the chipset supports it. I'm not an expert on this subject.
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post #7 of 12
1/29/12 at 10:57am

Just out of curiosity, does your 8710p's 3rd mPCIe slot (beside the wlan's) work properly with a device other than a ssd? What kind of device do you use in that slot? Did you try to put a wlan card in there?

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post #8 of 12
1/29/12 at 4:12pm
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Originally Posted by mhoale View Post

Just out of curiosity, does your 8710p's 3rd mPCIe slot (beside the wlan's) work properly with a device other than a ssd? What kind of device do you use in that slot? Did you try to put a wlan card in there?

I haven't tried anything in it, but I don't see why it wouldn't work. I didn't try it, it was too much of an unknown and I couldn't find the mounting hardware. I ended up getting a 2.5" SSD; at least I know that's compatible with any computer.
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post #9 of 12
1/31/12 at 9:57pm

Thank you for your clarification.

 

As to the mini-PCIe standoffs, fyi... http://search.digikey.com/us/en/products/NT4R1600/670-2588-1-ND/2704810

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post #10 of 12
2/12/12 at 11:44am
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wow, great find.

Although from looking at it, I suspect that an additional piece is required, some kind of threaded part that would go on the back of the motherboard hole. And you'd need a screw. The technical drawings (from your link) don't really clear this up, because they show another part (probably the stamped brass fitting) that goes over this one, but nothing on the back of the hole.
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post #11 of 12
2/20/12 at 5:32am

Hi Doug,

 

the standoff bolts are soldered in place, so there is no threaded part on the motherboard side.

I did not yet figure out the exact size needed for the standoff, but around 4mm looks ok at first glance. Thanks to mhoale for finding these!

 

Unfortunately, my mainboard is missing also the connectors, so I first have to get and fit these. :-(

 

The empty connector next to the WLAN card seems to be miniPCIe whith PCIe signals, while the other empty slot above these two (located beneath the keyboard) only has USB signals connected to it. The upper one is solely meant for a WWAN card, thus only USB and some signal lines to the (probably also unpopulated in your notebook?) SIM card holder next to the battery compartment.

 

I am trying to figure out if there might be any access to a spare SATA port inside to wire it up to the WWAN card slot, but did not yet succeed. Now I bought a broken mainboard to find out the hard way. I will let you know about the outcome...

 

Best regards,

Wolfgang

 

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post #12 of 12
2/20/12 at 3:16pm
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Originally Posted by WolfgangW View Post

Hi Doug,

the standoff bolts are soldered in place, so there is no threaded part on the motherboard side.
I did not yet figure out the exact size needed for the standoff, but around 4mm looks ok at first glance. Thanks to mhoale for finding these!

Unfortunately, my mainboard is missing also the connectors, so I first have to get and fit these. :-(

The empty connector next to the WLAN card seems to be miniPCIe whith PCIe signals, while the other empty slot above these two (located beneath the keyboard) only has USB signals connected to it. The upper one is solely meant for a WWAN card, thus only USB and some signal lines to the (probably also unpopulated in your notebook?) SIM card holder next to the battery compartment.

I am trying to figure out if there might be any access to a spare SATA port inside to wire it up to the WWAN card slot, but did not yet succeed. Now I bought a broken mainboard to find out the hard way. I will let you know about the outcome...

Best regards,
Wolfgang

Take some pics and share with us if you would

cheers ...
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