Advisable to get the T7600G over a T7600 in 2011 ??

the 7600G only over clocked on the M1710, so I would just stick to the 7600

I have heard there are other software options that let you overclock the 7600G in machines aside from the m1710.

I haven't ever had problems with my 7600g being throttled (from my experience and what I've heard, 2.83GHz was the reasonable limit). If you clocked it higher than that, the machine wanted to have the fans on full blast (which you could stop, but still, annoying)
The reason the CPU gets throttled is because at those speeds it creates too much heat, so for constant gaming, it got really hot & the heat sink couldn't get rid of the heat fast enough. (When I played games on mine, I had it propped up in the back to allow maximum air flow through the heatsinks).
I still use my m1710 for a high end web dev machine--having the extra CPU speed helps w/ big Photoshop images.

If you're hoping to get an extra boost of speed for gaming, I probably wouldn't bother, as the biggest slow down with most games will be the video-card anyway.

Personally, I wouldn't upgrade from a T7600 to a G given how much it would cost. How much do you think the net cost would be for you?

I have a M1710 with a T7400 and I'm not interested in upgrading it. However, I have a M6300 with a T7250 and I want to upgrade it to a T9300 or T9500. I wouldn't even upgrade the CPU on my M6300 except I really like this machine (other than its lack of a subwoofer) and I think its a keeper for years to come.

Hey Dexster,

 

I'm working through the same process as you with my 9400/E1705 (my first decent laptop). Had the usual gfx card meltdowns (2) with the 7900gs (fortunately, under extended warranty), but now trying to extend 9400's life through upgrading (not necessarily that cost efficient, but I'm hooked).

 

Machine was originally: T5600 @ 1.83 (2), 7900gs gfx, 2 gb Ram, 120gb HDD @ 5400, 1920x1200 screen, Vista 32bit OS.

 

Sept 2010: T7600 @ 2.33 (2), 4gb Kingston Hyperx Ram, 320gb WD HDD @ 7200, Vista 32bit OS.

 

Toyed with getting the T7600G but didn't (twice price second hand of new t7600, not convinced I could access the overclock)

 

Through e-bay have accessed used 7950 gtx (yet to arrive), which I hope will stay together and get me into the new(er) games (COD MW2, BF BC2, BF3).

 

Question: Under Windows Experience, my weakest link is still the RAM (32 bit only recognising 3.32gb). Is it worth upgrading to 7 64bit OS?

 

I do believe it is your chipset that will not allow you to access any more RAM and you can't do anything about that. The Operating System won't help. In my opinion, those Experience scores are overrated. You've got 3+ GB of RAM and thats enough for most people. I have not kept up with the latest and greatest games but I don't imagine any of them are using more than 2.5-3 GB of RAM. And even if they did, your CPU and GPU likely would be bottlenecks as well.

Outside of getting a new computer, theres not much more either one of you could do to improve performance. I still have my M1710 with the T7400 and the 7950 Go GTX, but I don't game much anymore. I run about 60-90 fps in Counter Strike: Source (the updated one) and I run 125+ fps in Warsow. I can't remember my exact overclock right now but I think my 7950 GTX is running at 600/800. It can overclock further but the extra stress of power and heat are not worth it for the minimal gain in fps.

Greetings Dexter,

IronRooster is exactly right. You shouldn't have any problems with throttling as long as you keep the temps within limits. That said the CPU/GPU cooling system on this particular generation of Dell laptops is merely adequate even if the fans and heatsinks are kept clean, but can be disastrous if ill maintained or trying to overclock too high. I also have the T7600G CPU and have never been able to run it above 2.8Ghz without it just getting too hot, even in an air conditioned environment. For a while I was also running my FX2500m cranked up a bit, but the benefits are outweighed by unwanted heat and component stress so set it back to stock settings a couple of years ago. I still use my M1710 several hours per day here in the tropics, but with CPU at 2.33Ghz. It is still a great machine, although the old GT/GTX 79XX/FX2500m/FX3500m series graphics card technology is definitely showing its age with only 512MB memory, limited to DirectX 9, & unable to come to the CUDA party.

Good luck with your project!

I've personally used the t7600g and throttlestop in a m1710 and e1705 and they both allowed overclocking. Throttling seems to be a northbridge heat issue whenever it happens. (Though through rmclock you can severely reduce that throttlilng, and throttlestop works pretty well for that.)

Hi Matchbox2022,

 

I'm a noob when it comes to overclocking, but wanting to upgrade/experiment with my 9400/e1705 (as above).

 

I'm interested in your upgrade of your e1705/9400 with the T7600G.

 

Were you able to access the overclock from the standard e1705 Phoenix BIOS, or only through Throttlestop?

 

My CPU is Socket 479mPGA, and I've only ever seen 478 T7600G's. Is there a 479 T7600G?

 

A 478 CPU isn't going to like a 479 socket, right? 

Your CPU is the same socket as mine (or any e1705 for that manner) it's simply the designation of what will literally fit. A 478 T7600G doesn't make much sense to me, but JUST to be absolutely certain, you should look for the cpu on the internet by it's SSPEC id.

The one you'll need is SL9U5. For some reason all the info I see on those say 478 pin, I really don't know why, I personally don't know, all I know is that sspec works for me and it is CPU exact specific, so if it has that ID I rest my reputation that it fits and works.

I force flashed the e1705's bios to be an m1710 at school using a bit of a special set-up, I didn't use a bios editor or separate flashing tool. However from what I 'have' seen so far through throttlestop is that it overrides bios multiplier levels and access's the cpu directly. I have personally locked my bios at 2.33ghz and was still able to use throttlestop to overclock. I trust the program will work with an e1705 bios.

http://www.notebookforums.com/forum/thread/228991/upgrading-a-e1705/20

Check out our thread about this, we talked about it a while ago.

Hi Matchbox2022,

 

Thanks for the reply and the link.

 

About 9 months ago I upgraded with a T7600 rather than the T7600G due to the big price diff, and I wasn't convinced I could access the overclock on the G (hadn't heard about Throttlestop then).

 

Have since had Throttlestop open with this locked T7600, and tried to up the VID without success. Could do the IDA trick, but haven't as yet (I'm a bit hesitant, despite having "Uncleweb''s guide). Is this my only option to OC with the T7600?

 

Iv'e found one or two used SL9U5 for about $200-$250US. I'm very tempted as I want to have a crack at the OC thing (probably nothing cheaper as an entry, - given I already have the 9400).

 

With the 9400/E1705 chipset, cooling limitations etc, what would you say the stable OC limit is, and for the money, is it worth it?

Greetings again matchbox2022 & hello everyone!

Thanks to you and Dexter, and the others in this thread I have learned of the excellent ThrottleStop utility. I've been playing with it since yesterday and have incrementally lowered the default 2.33 GHz VID from 1.1625v down to 1.0625v successfully running stress tests at each increment. My big M1710 concern here in Thailand has always been dealing with the high tropical temps and no A/C, unless I hibernate in the bedroom. Except for the short cool winter season when I can run at 2.67GHz, the rest of the year I only run my T7600G at 2.33 GHz to keep the fans from running on high constantly.

To you guys contemplating T7600 vs. T7600G there is a good reason to go with the 'G' as each was tested by Intel and determined to be at the top of the T7600 speed bin. This means each 'G' will not only clock to 3 GHz speeds but should also run at lower than default voltages at lower speeds. The benefits are obvious. Had it not been for Dell, there never would have been an unlocked 'G'.

And speaking of Dell, I triple curse their sorry excuse of a bios for leaving out typical enthusiast adjustments for their former XPS flagship and no support and bios upgrades after a limited time. At least they did, intentionally or not, produce a long lasting generation of excellent laptops even if they never planned to provide proper support. Go figure.

I see by your signature, matchbox2022, that you're running at 3 GHz. If you don't mind sharing, what is the VID and what CPU temps are you experiencing under load?

Cheers!