First Dothan Review & Benchmarks on Tom's Hardware - Page 4

No. For gaming they seem to be about equal (less than 1fps either way in most cases) and if you ever do anything besides gaming: rip cds to mp3, edit or encode video, etc. Dothan is better. And they're the same price for the same speed.

For all you Italians out there here are some more benches that echo the THG results. The rest of us can read the graphs.

An Asus M6N testing 1.6 Banias vs. 2.0 Dothan with a 9700 64MB, clearly the tests are GPU limited.

Dothan: un nuovo processore per i sistemi Centrino

Translation:

multimedia tests

bloke:

Both I8600 and D800 can be ordered right now, with Estimated Ship Date of June 3 for 755 (as configured at SB).

For the benefit of other readers, here are price differences at Small Business, assuming WUXGA.

I8600: Banias 1.6 -> 1.7GHz for $100, Banias 1.7GHz -> Dothan 1.8GHz for $0 (yes, nothing!), Dothan 1.8 -> 2.0GHz for $250.

Of course, business notebooks are more pricey:

D800: Banias 1.6 -> 1.7GHz for $250, Banias 1.7GHz -> Dothan 1.7GHz for $200, Dothan 1.7 -> 1.8GHz for $200, Dothan 1.0 -> 2.0GHz for $250.

Sorry, go to www.dell.com and choose Small Business.

I'm bummed there's no Latitude D605. The rumors of the D605 were pretty exciting (like the D600, a pound or two lighter and smaller than the 8600, with a 15" and 128MB GPU).

So far Sony is the only brand with a new design. The IBM T series got a bigger screen, but they're pretty much the same (heavier?).

I was hoping for more completely new designs from the big boys Dell, HP, Toshiba, etc...something that could compete with the Asus M6N/W1, Acer TM8003, ECS G556e type machines (on weight, size and with 9700).

Maybe we'll see something new later on today. The other link I posted said five manufacturers will come out with Dothan models over the next couple months, but I'd rather see them all now.

Dothan overclocking tidbit

Laptop Extreme Overclocking on x86-secret (original French site)

These graphs are comprehensible:

Dothan Vs Ultra High-End CPUs (Dothan clocked at 2.4GHz)

omg

side note

i found this interesting

according to the french article , dothan does suffer from latency coz of its larger l2 cache

it has to go thru 7 cycles


rather than banias 6 cycles


i knew it :P

interms of cpu power only 1.7ghz dothan vs 1.7ghz banias

lolololol


stock fan/heat/sink


desktop cooler fan/heat/snk


those benchmarks with the 2.4oc dothan are amazing

it surpassed the athlon64 3400 and p4 3.2 ee in benchies

I'm waiting for AnandTech's review to clear all this up.

Thanks for the links Bloke. After reading that X86 page I can finally say that my six years of French was worth it.

Anand was having a bit of trouble...

Will AnandTech have a Dothan review on Monday?

If the review is accurate, then it is going to depend on the application as to which CPU is more powerful.
Andrew
Austin, TX

lol

cache

ive been a long time roamer of this forum since im looking at getting a laptop soon but this discussion forced me to jump in

rincewind, intel has some of the best computer architects in the world....they know what they are doing in increasing the cache
adding more cache CAN AND WILL make a cpu faster if the right data can be put in the cache at the right time...this is why we arent still sitting on cpus with 32kb or less of L2 cache
its called having good spatial and temporal locality of your data
if its in the cache, it takes much fewer cycles to get the data than if the data is in the system memory, and if very few cache misses can be maintained, then dothan has a definite advantage over banias
but like was said in the THG article, a cache miss hurts dothan more than it hurts banias due to the larger cache size (this is why intel had to spend a lot of time tinkering with how the data is placed into the cache)
while it is true that extra cache is basically useless in programs where data is extremely dynamic (ie games, thought it doesnt hurt), if used correctly, cache can REALLY speed up a processor for use with programs that have static data (word processors, file encryption, etc)....just look at the P4 extreme edition or any expensive server chip (some of these have several MBs worth of cache)

this is not to say that the dothan is way way better than banias, but it has the possibility to be better for many applications
of course, this doesnt disguise the fact that the true potential of larger amounts of cache isnt being used with dothan, so you are right rincewind
i just wanted to chime in with a slightly technical reason why more cache doesnt necessarily mean a worse cpu

also, those game benchmarks on THG are useless in my opinion
i would wait until someone uses a 128mb radeon 9700 with these cpus to really see some differentiation
aceshardware has a good article on fairly recent cpus and vid cards to see the comparison of upgrading a cpu or a vid card
shows that it takes more than just a good vid card to get high fps
http://www.aceshardware.com/read.jsp?id=60000301

i dont mean to come off as proving anyone wrong but i really felt like i needed to clarify a few things and sorry if the above is incoherent

btw, im looking at getting the compal cl56 as well