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IBM's New BAD boy

post #1 of 31
5/11/04 at 1:30pm
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T42 Dothan with all the Trimings
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post #2 of 31
5/11/04 at 1:38pm
Still no firewire. Is this some kind of conspiracy that manufacturers don't include firewire to light notebooks?
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post #3 of 31
5/11/04 at 1:49pm
hah 4k. so not worth it for a laptop no matter how high end it is.
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post #4 of 31
5/12/04 at 8:43pm
It is interesting to see that the T series is now incorporating a 15" display.
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post #5 of 31
5/12/04 at 9:13pm
$4,679.00!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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post #6 of 31
5/12/04 at 10:03pm
I just wonder if its worth two SAGER 8790Vs. I wouldn't think so but who knows.
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post #7 of 31
5/12/04 at 10:39pm
Well, you have to start with the fact that IBM charges about $1,000 for a Gig of RAM!! Cut this down to 256K and you are down to....still a fortune!!
The only good thing is that the "non-P" versions are finally available with 64MB ATI 9600 in the $2,500 range. Also, I have been told that if you buy a share of IBM stock for about $80 you get the "shareholder price" on any system. This drops it another $500 or so. Still quite expensive, but...
Andrew
Austin, TX

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$4,679.00!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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post #8 of 31
5/12/04 at 11:52pm
You know, firewire is something I can live without, but what the hell were the designers thinking when they continued to put a freaking PARALLEL PORT in the back but not something like firewire??!?!? I mean, its 2004 for crying out loud!
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post #9 of 31
5/12/04 at 11:56pm
They are a conservative company, and, as such want to be careful about dropping support for legacy devices (would be my guess.) It is kinda a shame, because they are supposed to be very good notebooks.
Andrew
Austin, TX
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post #10 of 31
5/13/04 at 12:14am
The lack of firewire on the T4x and X40 really bugs me. I can't imagine it would cost more than a few dollars more to include the port.

The T4x series is otherwise an ideal light DV video editor. In fact, I know Avid used to recommend Thinkpads for their Xpress DV software. Sure you can get a PC card, but video tends to be finicky and a third-party adapter just increases the chance of issues, not to mention the hassle of carrying it around (or having it stick out). Even if you don't do video editing, plenty of people prefer external drives and enclosures with firewire rather than USB because of lower CPU usage and better real-world transfer rates (in many cases).

Considering how much IBM charges, they should at least offer firewire on the -p models.
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post #11 of 31
5/13/04 at 12:21am
I agree, but one question on notebook firewire ports. I noticed that they are usually the smaller connector, but are they usually the 5 pin powered port or the 3 pin non-powered ???
(my question is about the powered vs. non-powered, the number of pins may be wrong - sorry!)
Andrew
Austin, TX
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post #12 of 31
5/13/04 at 12:28am
Yah aamsel, your pin count is off, its 6 and 4. But yes, most if not all notebooks use either the 4 pin port or they use a 6 pin without power. The rational is that having powered ports would drain the batteries faster. My answer is so what? Just include a software switch to control it. Some of us would/could use the powered ports. Just another example of "What were you thinking?" syndrome.
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post #13 of 31
5/13/04 at 12:55am
Well, firewire kinda matters to me.
So....
What kind of firewire port does the ASUS M6N and/or HP nc8000 have???
Do they both have NO power???
I looked up the specs, but it just says something like "1394 port" with no real information.
Andrew
Austin, TX

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Originally Posted by MARQUISDARQUIS
Yah aamsel, your pin count is off, its 6 and 4. But yes, most if not all notebooks use either the 4 pin port or they use a 6 pin without power. The rational is that having powered ports would drain the batteries faster. My answer is so what? Just include a software switch to control it. Some of us would/could use the powered ports. Just another example of "What were you thinking?" syndrome.
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post #14 of 31
5/13/04 at 9:21am

Support for 1600 X 1200 DVI pass through?

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Originally Posted by eriqesque
My biggest complaint with IBM is they pretend to be a business solution but really don't go far enough. For example, they only support 1280 X 1024 DVI pass thru on their docking solutions so don't go out and buy a big beautiful Samsung 213T (21.2 incher) LCD because it will look crappy when connected to your IBM port replicator. I have been complaining to them for almost a year and I've spoken to ATI who indicates that this is just laziness on IBM's part because all it requires is a driver update.

I won't buy another IBM till this is addressed.
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post #15 of 31
5/13/04 at 10:25am
What does HP support in their "business" side, like with the nc8000 in this regard??
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Andrew
Austin, TX

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Originally Posted by jjfcpa
My biggest complaint with IBM is they pretend to be a business solution but really don't go far enough. For example, they only support 1280 X 1024 DVI pass thru on their docking solutions so don't go out and buy a big beautiful Samsung 213T (21.2 incher) LCD because it will look crappy when connected to your IBM port replicator. I have been complaining to them for almost a year and I've spoken to ATI who indicates that this is just laziness on IBM's part because all it requires is a driver update.

I won't buy another IBM till this is addressed.
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post #16 of 31
5/13/04 at 11:34am
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Originally Posted by aamsel
Well, firewire kinda matters to me.
So....
What kind of firewire port does the ASUS M6N and/or HP nc8000 have???
Do they both have NO power???
I looked up the specs, but it just says something like "1394 port" with no real information.
Andrew
Austin, TX
How many notebooks can you name that have powered (6 pin) firewire? I can think of one.
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post #17 of 31
5/13/04 at 12:21pm
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Originally Posted by flashram
How many notebooks can you name that have powered (6 pin) firewire? I can think of one.
Are you thinking of the Gateway M505?
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post #18 of 31
5/13/04 at 1:21pm
I can't name ANY notebooks that have it. That is why I asked the question. I just know that I have tried to use a non-powered PCMCIA 1394 card in the past and had problems. Then also trouble with solutions that were supposed to get power from a PS/2 port that worked erratically at best.
Andrew
Austin, TX

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Originally Posted by flashram
How many notebooks can you name that have powered (6 pin) firewire? I can think of one.
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post #19 of 31
5/13/04 at 3:50pm
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Originally Posted by bloke
Are you thinking of the Gateway M505?

I dunno about him but i think of powrbooks.
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post #20 of 31
5/13/04 at 7:03pm
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Originally Posted by aamsel
What does HP support in their "business" side, like with the nc8000 in this regard??
Thanks,
Andrew
Austin, TX
Andrew:
I believe the nc8000 comes with 1 year support. I had a defective key on my keyboard and called for support. After I assured them that I could do a self-install, I had a new keyboard the next day. Worked perfectly.

I was very pleased with my support call.

Best, John
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