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Guide to upgrade old HP Pavilion zv5000z with OCZ Vertex 2 and Windows 7

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I have this old HP Pavilion zv5000z notebook laying around for a couple of years and since it still worked flawless I didn't want to throw it out. I decided to test what a modern SSD drive could do to improve the performance of this aging system. Of course there are a few hurdles, first of all I tried two different 44-pin SSD's but was very disappointed with the result. All available 44-pin PATA SSD's I check out came with an old controller that didn't support TRIM or Wear Leveling and they are slow and stall frequently.

Secondly I couldn't install a SATA II SSD since it only came with an IDE controller and lastly I was limited in space to cram a converter and SSD inside the Harddisk bay.

 

So first I had to search for a PATA to SATA converter that fits inside the bay and a small 1.8" SSD. The converter was available on ebay for $13, it also featured the necessary micro SATA port to plug the 1.8" OCZ Vertex 2 into it. (Search for: "16pin Micro SATA SSD to 2.5" 44pin IDE adapter card") There are several 1.8" SATA drives with micro SATA connector on the market. I had it narrowed down to two drives, the first one was the Kingston V+ 180 64GB 1.8" drive and the one I ended up buying, the OCZ Vertex 2 1.8" 90GB because it came with a 15% off promo code and offered a higher capacity and OS independent TRIM support.

 

The result was much more rewarding than I expected. It is amazing how much this SSD improved the notebooks performance. For example the notebooks boot time to Windows 7 desktop went from 3 1/2 minutes down to 25 sec. The disks transfer rate went up from 32MB/sec to 126MB/sec. and the Windows Experience Index from 3.4 to 6.7 for the disk. Installing a full copy of Libre Office took just 3'45".

 

If you're interested, below is a step-by-step guide and you don't mind spending $180 on an old notebook. It probably works with a lot of other PATA only notebooks too.

 

Step1 – PATA to SATA Converter

The converter is available on eBay for about $13, search for: "16pin Micro SATA SSD to 2.5"44pin IDE adapter card". This cards JM20330 controller simulates an Ultra DMA 6 disk with a maximum transfer rate of 133 MB/sec, which is the highest rate the notebooks internal PATA IDE controller can

handle.

 

Step 2 - Installation:

Remove old IDE drive and pull off the 44pin-adapter, install the 44pin adapter on the IDE side of the Micro SATA converter. Be careful that the empty pin is in the same place as on the old IDE Drive. Unfortunately the adapter has no pin coding. Now plug the Micro SATA converter back into the notebook and plug the OCZ Vertex 2 1.8" drive into the converters SATA port. Next use some foam from the SSD packaging to fill in the open space around the drive so that the drive does not come lose, but not to much so the drive won't overheat.

 

Step 3 - Window and Drivers

Start notebook up and install Windows 7 32bit, all patches and service pack 1. Next I had to find some drivers for Windows 7 32bit that support the Nvidia chipset. This HP Pavilion zv5000z has a Nforce3 150 chipset which is not officially supported by Windows 7. So I found the following drivers on the internet that worked and supported the correct display resolution and transfer rates:

Display Adapter: GeForce4 MX440, Driver Version 8.1.9.8 Date 12/10/2005

IDE ATA/ATAPI Controller: Nvidia PATA IDE legacy driver 6.99 Date 5/15/2007

Network Adapter: Broadcom 802.11g 4320, driver version 5.100.235.19 Date 2/15/2011

and Realtek RTL8139, driver version 6.111.723.2009 Date 7/23/2009

 

Step 4 – Driver Installation

Don't auto install any of the Nvidia drivers, it does not work. You have to force install them with the Device Manager since they are made for Windows XP. First upgrade the graphics card to a GeForce4 MX440 which should give you the correct 1680x1050 resolution - Reboot.

Now you can do a disk benchmark, but you'll be disappointed since it only shows a transfer rate of 32MB/sec. This is because the Windows 7 PATA driver does not support the Nvidia IDE ATA controllers Ultra DMA 6 mode.

Now to get the full speed we have to force install the Nvidia PATA IDE legacy driver v.6.99. Reboot and let Windows 7 re-install the harddisk and reboot again. Next open up the Device Manager, click on IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers and double click NVIDIA Controller. Select the Primary Channel tab and uncheck "Let BIOS select transfer mode" and now you can change the transfer mode to Ultra DMA 6 - Ultra 133. Press ok and reboot.

Make sure Windows 7 TRIM command is still on by opening a command promt with admin rights and type in at the promt: fsutil behavior query DisableDeleteNotify 

If it returns a 0 TRIM is enabled.

A quick ATTO Disk Benchmark shows that the transfer rate is now 126MB/sec write and 106MB/sec read.

 

Enjoy.

 

PS. The Broadcom Driver needs to be manually set to 802.11g it runs default in b mode only. I also used SSDTweaker to optimze Windows 7 for the SSD. Also make sure that Windows Defrag scheduler is disabled. It's not needed for SSD's and it can shorten its live.

 

Picture of the adapter, the JM20330 controller is on the other side:

PATA_SATA_adapter.jpg  

SSD Installed.jpg

 

 


Edited by Memristor - 11/20/11 at 5:12am
post #2 of 26
bow.gif Great guide! Would you happen to have a pic of the adapter to share? It would be of great help to verify that one gets the right adapter when ordering.

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post #3 of 26
Another question: I noticed that some manufacturers offer SSDs with 44-pin drives. Would this be the same as your set up concerns?

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post #4 of 26
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Picture added.

Regarding the 44-pin PATA SSD's:

There are several issues with these drives.

1. All the PATA SSD drives I checked out come with an old SSD controller that does not support TRIM or wear leveling. Above Vertex 2 comes with a Sandforce SF-1200 controller that supports wear leveling and garbage collection (TRIM)

2. They are slow compared to the above setup. I tried a KingSpec and Supertalent 64GB drive and the max transfer rate I was able to achieve was 65MB/sec.

3. The biggest problem with the KingSpec and Supertalent was the constant stalling, sometimes the notebook would become none responsive for 1-2 minutes. Probably a controller issue.

4. They usually cost more because of limited competition and availability.

 

That's why I looked around for a better solution.

 

post #5 of 26
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Originally Posted by Memristor View Post

Picture added.
Regarding the 44-pin PATA SSD's:
There are several issues with these drives.
1. All the PATA SSD drives I checked out come with an old SSD controller that does not support TRIM or wear leveling. Above Vertex 2 comes with a Sandforce SF-1200 controller that supports wear leveling and garbage collection (TRIM)
2. They are slow compared to the above setup. I tried a KingSpec and Supertalent 64GB drive and the max transfer rate I was able to achieve was 65MB/sec.
3. The biggest problem with the KingSpec and Supertalent was the constant stalling, sometimes the notebook would become none responsive for 1-2 minutes. Probably a controller issue.
4. They usually cost more because of limited competition and availability.

That's why I looked around for a better solution.

Brilliant clarification - great help for members here

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post #6 of 26
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Originally Posted by qhn View Post

Another question: I noticed that some manufacturers offer SSDs with 44-pin drives. Would this be the same as your set up concerns?
cheers ...


I updated my guide to include above issues with the PATA SSD's.

 

post #7 of 26
Allow me to pick your brain again winknudge.gif

- 1.8" SSD: can the ZIF format be used as well?

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Quote:
Originally Posted by qhn View Post

Allow me to pick your brain again winknudge.gif
- 1.8" SSD: can the ZIF format be used as well?
cheers ...

Theoretically this should work as well with the following ZIF to micro SATA adapter. (search ebay for: 16pin Micro SATA SSD HDD to 1.8" ZIF adapter). It would certainly be worth a try since most available PATA SSD's with ZIF connectors are also slow, expensive and based on an old controller.

 

ZIF_SATA_adapter.jpg
 

 

post #9 of 26
I`ll keep this in mind - will give it a go sometimes next month on my good old MSI 1013 winknudge.gif

Mucho thanks for the informative input. thumbup.gif

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post #11 of 26
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Thanks,

I updated the story with another picture and some information on Windows 7 TRIM which by the way works flawless with this setup. If I have some more time next week I'll add some benchmarks. The only issue I have is that the HDD activity LED in front is constantly on. I assume that this is caused by the converter since the JMicron controller needs to be always on. It doesn't affect the battery life, in fact I get about 10-15 minutes longer run time.

post #12 of 26
It does fit nicely smile.gif

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post #13 of 26
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Here are some ATTO and AS SSD benchmarks after one week of use.

 

ATTO Benchmark with MS IDE Driver before upgrading to Nvidia Driver:

 

MS Drivers.png

 

ATTO Benchmark with NVIDIA nForce3 Parallel ATA Controller driver 6.99:

 

Nvidia Drivers.png

 

Some more Benchmarks with AS SSD and NVIDIA nForce3 Parallel ATA Controller Driver 6.99:

 

as-ssd-bench OCZ-VERTEX2 1.8 11.24.2011 8-43-17 AM.png  as-compr-bench OCZ-VERTEX2 1.8 11.24.2011 8-43-05 AM.png  as-copy-bench OCZ-VERTEX2 1.8 11.24.2011 8-41-04 AM.png

 




 

 

 

post #14 of 26
Look like a winner. I updated DTF as well - thanks

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post #15 of 26

Good work,

 

I have a similar project.  I accidentally bought a mSata intel 310 SSD.  I wasn't clear on the compatability of the interface and figured I'd be able to find a cheap adapter to use it.  It turns out the best you can do is the runcore $25-30 mSata to SATA adapters.  This price makes it reasonable to just get new SSD's and find something else for the mSata card.

 

What I think I'm going to try next is using the Jmicron adapter with some scrap laptop parts to make my own adapter.  The mSata is the same form factor as a mini pci-e.  So I'll cut that out of a junk board and adapt it to the jmicron adapter.  I've simulated it with a small ubuntu PC and wan't able to get past 50mb/s.  The test drive I uses was a Patriot Pyro capable of 500mb/s.

 

Do you have any idea what the driver is doing differently?

 

 

post #16 of 26
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Edited by Memristor - 4/13/12 at 7:05pm
post #17 of 26
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Yes, the original driver from Microsoft runs in compatibility mode only and does not support Nvidia's Ultra DMA 6 mode.
post #18 of 26

Well, this looked so fantastic, I thought I try it on an HP nx6110. Got the bits as specified and a W7 32 bit DVD and that's as far as I get.

 

The adapter and drive fit beautifully, fire it up and immediately get the message not a boot drive, excellent means its recognised as a device. Insert the DVD and try again. Same message.

Spent a good while fiddling with the BIOS boot order settings, but...

 

Long and short is that with the OCZ installed, the presence of the optical drive is suppressed.

Installed W7 with a USB DVD unit, and it all works well, but the internal CD is definitely not able to play any more.

 

I guess actually the issue is the ide adapter rather than the SSD itself.

 

Unless there are any bright ideas out there?


Edited by NT4Boy - 7/18/12 at 5:11am
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interesting. headscratch.gif

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post #20 of 26

Similar tale to NT4Boy who has lost his DVD Drive.

 

I'm using a Acer Aspire 5051, with the JMicron PATA to micro Sata adapter connection to a Kingston 64GB SSDNOW V+ 180. This was in an attempt to upgrade my Transcend 64GB MLC PATA SSD which was a really poor purchase (dont buy it - the transcend website stated that the device was not recommended for OS installs - I emailed to ask why, and the website page went down for a few days and then the statement was gone! The answer IMHO is that the controller is rubbish, presumably no TRIM/GC and the device is barely fast enough (if it were a usb stick) to qualify as windows ready boost compliant.......anyway......)

 

As soon as the Kingston is connected the bios fails to detect DVD device. (The ATAPI model name in the bios reports the Kingston SSD model name rather than the DVD drive model name). The Kingston model name therefore appears twice on the bios front screen (once on IDE channel, once on the ATAPI channel)

 

Had no luck installing windows from a bootable usb stick (boots fine, just windows 7 install crashes after files start copying).

 

Not been able to connect external DVD Drive as dont have one, hooked up a 3.5 inch internal drive via usb adapter but doesnt seem to be recognised at boot either (even with boot priority tweaked). (it does work once in windows so presumably bios just cant detect it?)

 

Cant even full clone my transcend ssd onto the kingston as the transcend is 7meg bigger....

 

I have two solid state coasters now - at least until I can get an external dvd drive that is recognised at boot!

 

Any ideas welcome.

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