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Toshiba satellite P30 revival..."The Tank"

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As in the subject line I've got an old Toshiba that just won't die.

It's a tank. Both physically and Software wise. A big, clunky, "push through anything" tank.

P4, 3.0 Ghz, but 512 MB ram. Meh, it does the job. Cpu always run low percentages, ram is always maxed and into heavy disc access.

It checks email, surf's the net, plays videos and DVD's, runs photoshop CS and does pretty much everything else I ask of it with little or no complaints.

It slows down from time to time, but that's usually my fault and a quick clean up gets the speed back up (at least what speed it had).

I've had it apart more than a dozen times. It's been ripped off the table by the power cord more than I can count (and resoldered inside). It's bounced down a flight of stairs. It's been literally around the world more than a half dozen times. The built in ethernet adapter has died and is now a belkin usb unit. Ditto with other conflicts that have been disabled.

Yes it's big, yes it's heavy but it's the one I reach for when I need it to work.

I like the speakers (harmon and they sound good in the context of a laptop), I really like the big screen and I've got a nice Kensington briefcase/carrier for it that I use every day even when the laptop isn't in it.

So I'm going to upgrade the old beast a bit and modify it. Time for some fun.

First up is RAM. It's running the original 512. Yup, it works ok but compared to modern machines it's sloooowwwwww!

50 bucks gets me the max 2 Gb PC2700 DDR it will support.

Next up is a backlit keyboard. I've always wanted one, usb lights suck. So I order up a Toshiba M505 backit keyboard. 30 bucks. Looks to be the same format and size as the P30. Some keys are moved around, but I can remap those if the keyboard works. I'll need to wire the leds up myself since the P30 doesn't support a lit board.

Some lighting and painting will come along also. Haven't decided on what yet but I'm 47 years old so it will be something fairly reserved yet unique. "Classy" at least.

Some cooling modifications will also be in there. I have a few ideas for that.

I'd like more USB ports, I'll have to dig around the board and see what's supported.

It's running the 5400 drive. A 7200 or maybe a SSD will come along eventually. Storage isn't a big concern; I keep everything I need besides the programs on a 1 TB compact external drive.

Bigger battery will also be needed eventually (more piles in the case if it can be had) or at least a new one. It's almost always used plugged in, but the battery dies off within 20-30 minutes when called upon to support. I treat it more as a UPS and make sure I don't run too long on it if I'm doing anything important.

I'd like to find a way to get HDMI out of it, but there's no way to do the card change and most TV's support the PC out now anyways. It does support S-video, but that is dying out also it seems.

I'd also like to up the wifi a bit, but not sure what it will support.

Adding internal GPS would be nice, but not essential. Bluetooth would also be nice.

For a laptop, there's lots of room in the case so some additions may just be possible through internally wiring some USB access or by some other means.

OS will most likely stay XP SP3. I know it, it supports all my stuff, doesn't need custom drivers for the older hardware and it just plain works for me. The vista and W7 machines we also have just never feel right to me...never quite as easy to use or just seems to "restrict" you in some way.....

So, that's where I am; big dreams and waiting for parts.

We'll see where it goes and how well "The Tank" takes to it.

I also can't bring myself to chuck it out just because it's "old tech". Heck, I've still got a Compaq Armada 1750 that I use and just won't die. That one is even more of a "tank" than the Toshiba, although it just carries my tuning software for the diesel these days.....gotta love being able to still use a serial port for my older interfaces!

Yeah, I guess I'm just and old sentimental fossil....

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Edited by great white - 11/24/12 at 10:35pm
post #2 of 18
Welcome to NBF smile.gif

We look forward your revival. A bunch of us around here still cherish our 5-6 years old machines

cheers ...
post #3 of 18
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Started with the lower case extension today. Basically, it's a second bottom.

 

Since the old P30 draws from the bottom for the cooling fans it's always being blocked or you need to use it on a hard surface. Like all laptops, it will heat up and slow down as the heat goes up and it's slow enough as it is. I've always got the cooling fins clean, but that bottom draw cooling scheme is a major PITA.

 

The lower bottom will ensure it can always draw cooling air no matter what the surface. It will have grills on the sides instead of the bottom so it can sit on soft surfaces and still cool. 

 

The mold was what was started today and the finished piece will be fiberglass.

 

I will also be able to add a little style with some aggressive looking styling, mesh covers and some assorted cool blue LED lighting. The front will somewhat mimic the Alienware gaming series.

 

The lower case will also allow me to install another handful of USB ports.

 

A covering of 3M carbon fiber vinyl will match the keyboard surround and the screen cover.

 

When done it might add another 1/8 -1/4 thickness to the laptop, although it will add significantly to the appearance of "thickness".

 

Space and hardware allowing, I may be able to use the extra space to add a  few other extra "neat" peripherals.

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Originally Posted by great white View Post

Started with the lower case extension today. Basically, it's a second bottom.

Since the old P30 draws from the bottom for the cooling fans it's always being blocked or you need to use it on a hard surface. Like all laptops, it will heat up and slow down as the heat goes up and it's slow enough as it is. I've always got the cooling fins clean, but that bottom draw cooling scheme is a major PITA.

The lower bottom will ensure it can always draw cooling air no matter what the surface. It will have grills on the sides instead of the bottom so it can sit on soft surfaces and still cool. 

The mold was what was started today and the finished piece will be fiberglass.

I will also be able to add a little style with some aggressive looking styling, mesh covers and some assorted cool blue LED lighting. The front will somewhat mimic the Alienware gaming series.

The lower case will also allow me to install another handful of USB ports.

A covering of 3M carbon fiber vinyl will match the keyboard surround and the screen cover.

When done it might add another 1/8 -1/4 thickness to the laptop, although it will add significantly to the appearance of "thickness".

Space and hardware allowing, I may be able to use the extra space to add a  few other extra "neat" peripherals.

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Please, please, please ... Pics winknudge.gif

cheers ...
post #5 of 18
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Not much to see yet, still working on the basic "undertray":








(forum won't let me post pics for some reason, links will have to do)


That's still raw and only the plug to make the mold. It's still a touch too thick and needs to come down another 1/8-1/4". Maybe more like half the current thickness, still thinking about it....

 

Finished form will have a few "bling bling" bits (IE: the cooling vents, led's etc) that are yet to be added.

 

Once I get the basic foam plug made, it's off to clay to sculpt a few details for it. I'm a "car guy" so I really like the look of the alienware grill stuff. Very "automotivey" looking and I'll add something like it to the tray. Then, into the cast to make the negative. After that, it's pull a finished fiberglass piece from the mold and screw it on to the bottom. Assorted panels to be added to access things like the battery (which I usually don't have installed).....
 

post #6 of 18
There, fixed it for ya tongue.gif

Try the "image" button on top of the post dialog next time and see. Looking like an amphibian, don't plan to float it do you? winknudge.gif

cheers ...
post #7 of 18
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There, fixed it for ya tongue.gif

Try the "image" button on top of the post dialog next time and see. Looking like an amphibian, don't plan to float it do you? winknudge.gif

cheers ...

Foam is only the core for the mold...
post #8 of 18
got ya smile.gif

cheers ...
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post #10 of 18
The "image" button does not work for you?

cheers ...
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The "image" button does not work for you?
cheers ...


I don't like uploading to forums.

 

Had a couple bad experiences with it, so now I hyperlink to photobucket or just don't post....

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I don't like uploading to forums.

Had a couple bad experiences with it, so now I hyperlink to photobucket or just don't post....

I see, just a personal preference. No problem then, I thought there was something wrong with attachments for some members smile.gif

cheers ...
post #13 of 18
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I was trying for an automotive looking front, but it seems that alien style face is just determined to come out of the clay:

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e235/gr8twhite/laptop/P30/F901DE16-E23C-4F55-BC8A-1110BEBEC852-29385-00001FB71B2B2CCD.jpg
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I see .... green in different shades tongue.gif
post #15 of 18
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Work continues:

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e235/gr8twhite/laptop/P30/D8F96DF9-731F-4FE2-8FBB-A8309CF1D658-29385-00001FAEBF7A5BC5.jpg

Mid sculpting I changed my mind and was trying for an automotive grill look reminiscent of a CTS-V, but somehow that alien face just kept coming out of the clay:

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e235/gr8twhite/laptop/P30/F901DE16-E23C-4F55-BC8A-1110BEBEC852-29385-00001FB71B2B2CCD.jpg

So it will have an alien face look to it after all.

After a bit more tweaking, it was into the mold and all those days of work ended up as a big ball of clay on the table. But it sacrificed itself for a good cause:

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e235/gr8twhite/laptop/P30/298DC384-79C5-473F-8DF3-266B1E8FEC25-30131-000020CDCBBFE9CF.jpg

Yeah, mold is ready to go. It needs a touch of work on the base to flatten and fill the holes where I had pedestals to allow the plaster to flow underneath, but that's easy stuff.

Next up is into the garage to start laying up the fiberglass....

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Took a break from fabricating the case when my 2GB of ram showed up yesterday.

So I reassemble the P30 and pop in the ram.

Holy crap! The troubles it causes!

Everything from a refuse to even enter startup  to working just fine!

So I chase my tail for a couple hours, never getting it to work right every time. Every time something different. I try the old ram, 1 card at a time, both cards, different sockets, removing different bits of hardware, etc. Nothing works reliably.

So, I think to myself pull the CMOS battery and force it to check the config even though I've seen it check the ram on startup and report the full 2GB.

Aw crap, the battery in buried under the palm rest area. It's got to come all apart to get to the battery. Into little pieces it goes again.

Down to the motherboard, I discover the battery is soldered to the board.

@#$%^&^@%#%(&*#&%@%&$@&^@&!!^#*@*^$*^@$*^*^@$*^@$*@$^&***^^%%#@!

 

Ahem, I finally come back down off the ceiling and get to work.

Out comes the solder station. Off comes the battery. Walk away, make myself a latte and let the bare MB sit for 5 minutes. Press and hold the start button for a minute or so to drain anything left hanging around the system.

Back together it all goes. Pop in both 1gb cards and........Joy!

It starts right up as normal. Does it right the next four stars without fail.

Done.

Then it looks at me a says: hold on a sec there bucky......I'm not done with you yet.....

All kinds of programs and services aren't working right. Connects to the router, refreshes DNS addresses, shows internet connection,  but no data. chase my tail for an hours with settings, force wipe with some cmd line "netsh" stuff, winsockxpfix, confirm mac address permissions on router, etc, etc. Nothing works. Finally, I change security settings/protocals in networking to something that shouldn't work and then change it back.

Working again! Whew. what a PITA.

And so it goes for another hour or so of getting the configurations right.Fans are screaming at full speed, resolutions are whacked out, hardware is missing, drivers need reloading/tweaking, etc, etc, etc.....

CMOS battery removal got it working with the increased system ram but messed everything else up.

But it's all copacetic now and its running as reliably as it has since 2003.

Faster now though......not blistering fast but noticeably so. It's a pleasure to use again, even with heavy programs like photoshop. The cpu % is now above the Ram %. Disc reads are waaaayyyy down, runs what I need almost exclusively in ram now. Not surprising as it only had 512 mb before.

 

Gotta do something about the 4200 rpm (!) drive now. 7200 or ssd, dunno....


I also started spiffing up the interface a bit: vista icons, vista black theme, uxtheme patcher, custom logon screens,custom boot screen, reshacking the logoff, etc......


Edited by great white - 12/5/12 at 6:21am
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post #18 of 18
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Interesting, but Sounds like too many compromises and little pita issues for me.

I'll just upgrade to a Samsung 2.5 drive and stick with xp.

Does everything i need it to just fine.

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