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post #41 of 85
5/24/04 at 11:47pm
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Originally Posted by ActuaryTm
The NP4780 does not support a DVI connection of any type (photograph of the rear of the NP4780 found here, courtesy of Adam). The specifications in the advertisement do not mention any DVI connection for the NP4750, in contrast to the NP8790 which does list DVI in the advertisement.
I know what you're saying, hence why I emailed them. DVI will be dependent on the MB they choose or specifically, the graphic card they install and if they want to give a DVI out, not on the plastic housing the laptop. Then again, DVI could be implimented with many laptops today, but they are not. I think only Apple and Clevo has them. Apple has had it for many years already, and Clevo just from last year's release. Well, at least no more floppy in laptops. It's such a slow process to weed out legacy ports.

The other thing I noted is that on the Eurocom model, you can op for WSXGA, but not available as described on Sager's model in their ad.

And just to add, AMD will change their pin outs to 939pin for both the AMD64 and AMDfx lines. I don't think these models will have this new pin out, which is due for release next month.
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post #42 of 85
5/25/04 at 9:25am
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Originally Posted by exe
I know what you're saying, hence why I emailed them. DVI will be dependent on the MB they choose or specifically, the graphic card they install and if they want to give a DVI out, not on the plastic housing the laptop. Then again, DVI could be implimented with many laptops today, but they are not. I think only Apple and Clevo has them. Apple has had it for many years already, and Clevo just from last year's release. Well, at least no more floppy in laptops. It's such a slow process to weed out legacy ports.

The other thing I noted is that on the Eurocom model, you can op for WSXGA, but not available as described on Sager's model in their ad.

And just to add, AMD will change their pin outs to 939pin for both the AMD64 and AMDfx lines. I don't think these models will have this new pin out, which is due for release next month.
If you are speaking in regards to the new WSXGA+ display, it does not appear any advertisment (at least any I've seen, and I read quite a few publications) has yet mentioned the WSXGA+ display as an option for any machines. However, on the official Sager Midern site, the option is listed. The most likely reason would be due to the fact that cutoffs for print advertisements can be several weeks prior to the actual publication, and the WSXGA+ option was only announced (if memory serves) the very end of April/beginning of May.

As for DVI, the prior statement made was something to the effect of "this is a 4xxx model, hence just like the existing Intel based 4xxx models". As noted, no NP4xxx model supports a DVI connection. Couple this with the fact that advertisement specifically mentions "Ext CRT" under "Other Ports", one would be hard pressed to believe the NP4750 will include a DVI connection, regardless of statement made by Eurocom.

Would be remiss if it were not noted that Sager is typically a very trusted source of information, while the same unfortunately cannot always be said for Eurocom.
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post #43 of 85
5/25/04 at 8:49pm
Just gave Sager a call regarding the NP4750 and the guy there told me that it's currently postponed. He wasn't able to give me any type of time frame, just told me to call back sometime next month. Bleh. I'd like to get the AMD64 over a P4, but I need to order it within 2 weeks, so if its not out by then I'll just go with an 8790.
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post #44 of 85
5/26/04 at 8:09am
I think u probably should wait. The reason why it is postponed is because of the new Amd CPUs coming NEXT month and also there will be CPU socket that are ,mmm, let's say more suitable for CPUs. Im waiting even if everyone is having fun with the new 8790. soon it will be old news
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post #45 of 85
5/26/04 at 11:26am
Did some one just say that PCI Express will be in laptop in 1 month... where is the evidence of that, that is so false. It hasnt even been fully released onto desktops let alone to laptops. Think another year. Min... Come on now.

By the way Does this support hyper transport?
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post #46 of 85
5/26/04 at 1:13pm
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Originally Posted by Q-Ball
Did some one just say that PCI Express will be in laptop in 1 month... where is the evidence of that, that is so false. It hasnt even been fully released onto desktops let alone to laptops. Think another year. Min... Come on now.

By the way Does this support hyper transport?
It may have something to do with this link.
http://www.eurocom.ca/products/futur...m?model_id=123
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post #47 of 85
5/26/04 at 1:25pm
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Computer_Potato
It may have something to do with this link.
http://www.eurocom.ca/products/futur...m?model_id=123
can we say WOW...

Another month of waiting for my dream machine to be released…
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post #48 of 85
5/26/04 at 1:52pm
New 64 bit Prescott coming out next month ? or Q4 ?????
I think I saw a big CPU delay coming up.
I do believe people "might" see this machine at the end of this summer, but not in June.
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post #49 of 85
5/26/04 at 2:00pm
It only says Prescott -- no 64-bit mentions. I think this thread has morphed into a 2-topic (AMD 64 and PCI-X) thread...
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post #50 of 85
5/26/04 at 2:01pm
Wonder why I can't find the Phantom through Eurocom's site...there are three other models there but no Phantom. Plus, 16xPCI Express by June 2004? I wish...

It would be cool to see a 64bit Prescott, but do you think that it would have the same kind of battery life as the AMD? As is now desktop intel CPUs suck for battery life.
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post #51 of 85
5/26/04 at 2:03pm
EUROCOM Phantom D900T Description: With "64-bit power" and high-bandwith architecture, this groundbreaking new Mobile Workstation system alleviates the limitations and bottlenecks of the traditional notebook or PC - opening up a wealth of possibilities for 2D and 3D designers, video and audio producers, scientists, engineers, researchers, game developers and players. The industry fastest frontside bus, and advanced system controller and high-speed, high-capacity memory make the Mirage D900T one of the fastest PCs ever built. The EUROCOM Mirage D900T features 16x PCI-Express upgradeable 256MB DDR2 base video graphics (ATI M24 or nVidia NV41) with HDTV output; Serial ATA support (RAID 0, 1), IEEE1394b (FireWire-800) and ExpressCard slot.
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post #52 of 85
5/26/04 at 2:11pm
If no mistake, EUROCOM Phantom D900T should have 64 bit Prescott.
That's my question come in. Proscott 64bit release next month ?
And no news with ATI M24 or nVidia NV41 too. Sounds fishy.
If ATI M24 or nVidia NV41 will relase next month, they should offically let every one knows already! It does not sounds right !
NP4750 should coming out soon!
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post #53 of 85
5/27/04 at 12:49am
NEVER TRUST EUROCOM!

and even if that laptop does come out, that thing will BE EXPENSIVE.

another year. Eurocom lies.
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post #54 of 85
5/27/04 at 12:56am
Anyone else that they refer to it as both the "Phantom" and the "Mirage" on that page? Hard to take that seriously.

-Joshua
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post #55 of 85
5/29/04 at 9:21pm
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Originally Posted by thArk
If no mistake, EUROCOM Phantom D900T should have 64 bit Prescott.
That's my question come in. Proscott 64bit release next month ?
And no news with ATI M24 or nVidia NV41 too. Sounds fishy.
If ATI M24 or nVidia NV41 will relase next month, they should offically let every one knows already! It does not sounds right !
NP4750 should coming out soon!
Two things:

1) Intel will not be turning on whatever 64 bit capability they have in the Prescotts...EDIT: Well, that appears to have changed (at least in the server market): http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/05..._64b_prescott/
2) Intel is cancelling future Prescotts (ie Tejas). http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/05...cancels_tejas/

Also, ATI m24 is simply the PCIe version of m12.
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post #56 of 85
5/29/04 at 11:16pm
Computer potato, thanks for the link. That new 17'' lappy looks a lot better than 8790, especially the touch pad. Time to play the waiting game again. I doubt this thing is coming out in June.

I think the Prescott advertised will just be 32-bit Prescott with 64-bit extension. Nonetheless, worth waiting for IMHO.
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post #57 of 85
5/29/04 at 11:26pm
Thread Starter 
[quote=Fungo]
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Originally Posted by Q-Ball
Think another year. QUOTE]
More like fall of 2004, NOT another year.
EUROCOM Phantom D900T

Eurocom has now updated their website to include, and exclude some new information…

First of all the proposed release date has now been moved back to August 2004, back from June 2004.

As well, the ad no longer indicates that this will include a 64-bit processor.

http://www.eurocom.ca/products/futur...m?model_id=123

http://www.eurocom.ca/products/futur...m?model_id=127
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post #58 of 85
5/29/04 at 11:30pm
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Originally Posted by DrPacman
EUROCOM Phantom D900T

Eurocom has now updated their website to include, and exclude some new information…

First of all the proposed release date has now been moved back to August 2004, back from June 2004.

As well, the ad no longer indicates that this will include a 64-bit processor.

http://www.eurocom.ca/products/futur...m?model_id=123

http://www.eurocom.ca/products/futur...m?model_id=127
you are fast my friend. I was just deleting my original quote since I realized someone has already answered. I really wish it's AMD 64 in that new model instead of intel prescott.

EDIT: The top link ad you provided (EUROCOM Phantom D900T) still has the 64-bit processor in the description? I didn't see anything different than that link provided by computer potato.
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post #59 of 85
5/29/04 at 11:33pm
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Main Chipset Intel 875PE+ICH6
The Intel i875P northbridge does not support PCI-Express x16 graphics or DDR2, though it is very likely that Eurocom has mistaken it for Intel's coming Grantsdale/Alderwood chipsets.
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post #60 of 85
5/29/04 at 11:53pm
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Q-Ball
NEVER TRUST EUROCOM!

and even if that laptop does come out, that thing will BE EXPENSIVE.

another year. Eurocom lies.
Oh not nessesarly true my friend… So far, their record of accomplishment has been accurate including the yet to be released Sager NP4750… (Eurocom Python D470K) As of yet Sager, nor PCTourqe for that matter, has announced it on their website’s, however Sager is running a full-page ad in this months Laptop Magazine for that very machine. My guess is Eurocome likes to tease the public, and thereby increase the overall interest in themselves, even if some of the products morph into a slightly different iteration then first announced. Some would call this just good marketing on thier parts... However, I do agree with you they seem to be somewhat pricey.
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