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post #21 of 47
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hmmm...

i think as it stands i'm just going to get an emachines m6805 for $1250, give that to my sister when i get back, and then look for a lappy with AMD and ati 9700. too bad there's nothing that's got that right now.

oh, and what's the sony going to have for a processor?
post #22 of 47
Pentium-M/Centrino. All the way up to Dothan
post #23 of 47
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enderet, i want your honest opinion. is it worth holding out for an a64 system? how soon do you really think 64bit will even be usable? otherwise, i'll just go with getting the battalion e-turbo for myself tomorrow and not getting a lappy for my sis.
post #24 of 47
Like I said in the other thread... it really will take a while. I really dont see a 64-bit OS taking off any time soon. The best is for you not to have regrets about what you buy. As it stands right now, the 64bit gives pretty much no advantage. Right now there is a lot of hype about 64-bit, but to tell you the truth, it is just that, hype.

The AMD 64 has been around for quite a while now, and we still dont have any games that take advantage of it.
post #25 of 47
Teg any reason why you want to get the Battalion E (AOpen 1557) over the PowerPro M5:6 or Battalion CL (Compal CL56)?

I hear that the AOpen has the heat output vent in a really bad spot...not that the Compal did the best thing either...but at least its at the top of the laptop, not the middle where you will be using a mouse (if your a righty). Also I heard that the keyboard isn't as good as the CL56.
post #26 of 47
Ahahhahaha im so lazy. I thot when ppl use PCI X the X means eXpress. I learned my lesson.
post #27 of 47
Wait for the Asus m6N.
post #28 of 47
Thread Starter 
hmm, been looking at reseller-ratings and it looks like ibuypower does not have the greatest reputation.
post #29 of 47
Quote:
Originally Posted by Enderet
Like I said in the other thread... it really will take a while. I really dont see a 64-bit OS taking off any time soon. The best is for you not to have regrets about what you buy. As it stands right now, the 64bit gives pretty much no advantage. Right now there is a lot of hype about 64-bit, but to tell you the truth, it is just that, hype.

The AMD 64 has been around for quite a while now, and we still dont have any games that take advantage of it.
Linux already supports 64 bit and Windows will support 64 bit this fall. Many big games that are coming also support 64 bit, even in a 32 bit OS. AMD's blow Intel's away for gaming. You won't notice the difference too much in regular apps until Windows XP 64 bit arrives later this year, but many apps could see up to a 20% increase in performance then. If you want your laptop to be up to date for a few months, go Intel. If you want your laptop to last a few years, go AMD 64. It is far from hype, it is the future.
post #30 of 47
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Originally Posted by tron
Linux already supports 64 bit and Windows will support 64 bit this fall. Many big games that are coming also support 64 bit, even in a 32 bit OS. AMD's blow Intel's away for gaming. You won't notice the difference too much in regular apps until Windows XP 64 bit arrives later this year, but many apps could see up to a 20% increase in performance then. If you want your laptop to be up to date for a few months, go Intel. If you want your laptop to last a few years, go AMD 64. It is far from hype, it is the future.
There are hundreds of thousands of people that are still going to be using 32-bit, everyone is still going to support 32-bit. Its not like 32-bit is going to become obsolete from one night to the other when Windows-64 is released.
post #31 of 47
Thread Starter 
i agree. 64 bit certainly won't be the "standard" for a long time.

but in terms of being able to actually "use" it...when is the new windows coming out? and will we see software that can take advantage of 64bit by the year's end.?
post #32 of 47
The XP-64 is scheduled to be released on the fourth quarter. Teg, go ahead and buy a notebook with an AMD-64. Go with your plan of buying a notebook, and then giving it to your sister. Hopefuly by the time that you need to buy YOUR notebook, there will be one around that suits your needs, with a 64-bit processor, and with a 9700. Like I told you before... its best not to regret whatever it is you decide to do.
post #33 of 47
Thread Starter 
yeah i think i'll go ahead and do that, thanks a lot enderet.

what can you reccommend for a laptop at $1K that is very portable and reliable for my sis? Obviously, will only be used for internet, word processing, light gaming.
post #34 of 47
At 1k, you will mostly find notebooks with the intel extreme with shared video ram..

When you start going a little bit higher than that, you will find notebooks with dedicated ram. But, I am guessing the "light gaming" wont be affected by that. Your best bet will be to go with one of the base notebooks, which are usualy kind of big and aimed at people that will mostly do word processing and internet (light stuff).

There is one notebook, but it is not a BIG name brand notebook, that is very light (12 in screen) and very inexpensive.

http://www4.tomshardware.com/mobile/20030618/index.html

These go for about 800-900. Toms, a very reliable source, seems to like it.

There are also some notebooks at www.powernotebooks.com that are around the 1000 mark, you might want to check those out.
post #35 of 47
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enderet, pmed you
post #36 of 47
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Originally Posted by Enderet
There are hundreds of thousands of people that are still going to be using 32-bit, everyone is still going to support 32-bit. Its not like 32-bit is going to become obsolete from one night to the other when Windows-64 is released.
Just curious, are there not a substantial amount of computers running 16bit? If one were to use a current purchase for the next 4-6 year and 6-8 year spans, would you recommend 32 or 64bit?
post #37 of 47
I would also consider getting a refurb laptop from somewhere. You can often find a steal that way that will meet your needs if you're willing to take an often minimal risk.
post #38 of 47
Quote:
Originally Posted by exe
Just curious, are there not a substantial amount of computers running 16bit? If one were to use a current purchase for the next 4-6 year and 6-8 year spans, would you recommend 32 or 64bit?

Buying a notebook to use it for 4-6 or even 6-8 years? Wow, I wonder where technology will be at then...

Well if the purchase is intended to be used for that long of a time.... then going with the 64-bit would be best. It will definetely take off in the next few years, and in 6 years it will most definetely be the standard going off of the shelves.

So to answer your question... for it to last up to 8 years, 64 bit would be best.
post #39 of 47
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Originally Posted by tron
Linux already supports 64 bit and Windows will support 64 bit this fall. Many big games that are coming also support 64 bit, even in a 32 bit OS. AMD's blow Intel's away for gaming. You won't notice the difference too much in regular apps until Windows XP 64 bit arrives later this year, but many apps could see up to a 20% increase in performance then. If you want your laptop to be up to date for a few months, go Intel. If you want your laptop to last a few years, go AMD 64. It is far from hype, it is the future.
Fanboi alert! Fanboi alert!

Yeah buddy, how about showing me some benchmarks? AMDZone doesn't count either.

Both companies have stuff that perform pretty much equally.

Linux is nice, but since most people don't use it as their primary OS, it's pretty much moot. Even at that, the majority of Linux users are still on 32 bit machines anyway.

Don't forget that Intel has x86-64 bit stuff coming out too. If you want to bet why Windows for 64 bit systems isn't out, I'd bet a nickel that Intel had a lot to do with it.

If you want to base your buying decisions on hype and "what ifs", feel free. By the time the 64 bit software actually comes out anyway, there's going to be better hammers out and Intel will have 64 bit procs out (probably some Pentium M-64s as well).

Super
post #40 of 47
There is an unholy alliance between Intel and M$.
However, he does have a point, I heard Farcry, UT2K4 and Half-Life 2 are all going to be supporting 64-bit.
Should be interesting to see how much (if any) faster they go.
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