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post #1 of 22
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ok guys im going to build my own pc. i need to know what to buy, i already know im getting:
asus mobo
amd athlon
ati [dont know type yet probably 9800]
160 7200 hdd
kingston ram 2*512
and a case with 350 watt power supply

now i need to know what else i need to get, small stuff like heatsinks, wiring, or anything else i have not listed.
post #2 of 22
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oh ya here is more specifics on my mobo


ASUS "K8V" K8T800 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket 754 CPU -RETAIL

Specifications:
Supported CPU: Socket 754 AMD Athlon64 Processors
Chipset: VIA K8T800 + VT8237
FSB: Scalable HyperTransport
RAM: 3x DIMM for DDR400/333/266(un-buffered, ECC&Non-ECC) Max 3GB
IDE: 2x ATA 133 up to 4 Devices by VT8237, 1x ATA 133 Drive by Promise R20376
Slots: 1x AGP 8X, 5x PCI
Ports: 2xPS2,1xCOM,1xLPT,1xLAN,8xUSB2.0(Rear 4),SPDIF Out,Audio Ports
Onboard Audio: AD1980 6-Channel Audio
Onboard LAN: Marvell 88E8001 Gigabit Ethernet
Onboard SATA/RAID: 4x Serial ATA Ports; RAID 0/1 for 2 SATA by South Bridge
RAID 0/1 for other 2 SATA by Promise R20376
Form Factor: AT
post #3 of 22
Are you sure the form factor is AT? If so, are there any ISA slots on that mobo? Hehe...
post #4 of 22
You look like you're going for bling bling, so for the ram, i would probobly want to direct your attention to Corsair, Mushkin (special 2-2-2) or OCZ.

The ATi Radeon 9800pro is cheap now, fallen in price by alot. The XT IMO, is still not worth it.

As for the power supply, dont look at it as a way of saving money, if it ever fails, it has the capability of taking the rest of your system with it. So for a good quality power supply, look at Antec and if you plan on doing any overclocking or anthing along those lines, you would need at least a 400W.
post #5 of 22
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ya im probably getting the 9800 pro, maybe if i have enough money i can get the nivida 6800 or ati x800.
post #6 of 22
I agree with the 9800pro. and at least 400w power. and Corsair. better yet just read NovaShine's post and imagine that I retyped it here. There are some very techy power supplies. You might want to look into the ones with extra cooling. don't forget the case fans. get better fans rather than pretty colored one. You should take pictures. starting with an empty case. Its sounds like your building a monster system.
post #7 of 22
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ya im gonna have to get some very good case fans to keep my baby from overheating, my friend built a machine a couple months ago and he was trying to overclock his new p4 ht 3.0 ghz processor and the processor had a melt down. i dont see the point in overclocking when u could risk a very expenisive processor.
post #8 of 22
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ok im looking at cases and i am having trouble finding a good looking one that is 400w. i have looked at newegg.com and there are a couple good looking ones but in the reviews people say they are very flimsy. any ideas of good looking 400W cases.
post #9 of 22
Check your private messages. look at the Purple one.
post #10 of 22
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ya i was looking for alienware cases online and i found those ones on ebay but i think that those kind are the ugliest cases ever made. i am trying to find a new age alienware case. those ones are cool. and i dont think i will buy an AW because i want to get a lot of bang for the buck and i could build a super machine for only 800-1000 dollars.
post #11 of 22
I'm looking into having a new desktop built to hold me over for the next few months. I've had this Dell P3 700 for 4 years and I need to upgrade. They Speced me for a

P4-2.8HT 800FSB
512MB DDR400
80gig (7200rpm) SATA
16x DVD
8x+/-DVD Burner
AC97 Audio
10/100 NIC
350 watt power in case
ATI 9600SE
All for $958 (including tax)

Is this a good price? Is it worth upgrading to the 9600XT for the extra $50 or so? Would there be much of a performance difference? I really wanted to try to keep it down below $1000. This is just to hold me over for the next 6 months...hoping by then PCI-Express and all that other great new technology will be available. After I get my new notebook I'll give this to my parents....and they could care less what's inside of it.

Thanks
post #12 of 22
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i would go with the 9800 pro for about the same price as the 9600 xt. and if its just to hold u over why are u getting a dvd burner.
post #13 of 22
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when is pci express coming out.
post #14 of 22
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wow look at this case its basicly an alienware case with some plastic pieces stuck onto it
http://raidmax.com/products/products...6&cID=1&pID=42

if u could take those plastic pieces off it would be so cool.
post #15 of 22
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Originally Posted by mellamojimmy
i would go with the 9800 pro for about the same price as the 9600 xt. and if its just to hold u over why are u getting a dvd burner.
I'm thinking about the 9800pro. I can get it off of newegg for $222 while the 960xt is $173. Does anyone know if brands such as Sapphire, Gigabyte, BFG, etc. manufacture good quality cards...or should I just buy the ATI manufactured one for a little more money?

The DVD burner isn't that much extra and my dad wants one, so I figured to go with it because he would be getting it afterwards. Plus there are some movies I want .

I can get the machine built for $809w/tax without the video card, then order it from newegg. Basically the same price as before just with a much upgraded card. I'm also wondering if it would have any firewire. Is that intergrated into the motherboard or seperat?
post #16 of 22
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flyby
I'm thinking about the 9800pro. I can get it off of newegg for $222 while the 960xt is $173. Does anyone know if brands such as Sapphire, Gigabyte, BFG, etc. manufacture good quality cards...or should I just buy the ATI manufactured one for a little more money?

The DVD burner isn't that much extra and my dad wants one, so I figured to go with it because he would be getting it afterwards. Plus there are some movies I want .

I can get the machine built for $809w/tax without the video card, then order it from newegg. Basically the same price as before just with a much upgraded card. I'm also wondering if it would have any firewire. Is that intergrated into the motherboard or seperat?
Also, if you get the 9800pro, you can flash it with the 9800XT bios and open up the locked rendering pipelines. That's like getting a 9800XT for half price!
post #17 of 22
If you could wait a few months (i.e. 1-2), i would recommend it. Both Intel and AMD are set to release new processors and socket formats in June. AMD is set for June 1st, which is only a week away. Even if you don't bother getting the newest and greatest, the releases will drive the prices down on everything else. You can either save more money or get more power for the same amount of dough.

As everyone else said, don't skimp on the power supply. Also, not sure if the board you are buying has built in firewire, but it probably doesn;t. Not sure what you need it for, but add on cards aren't typically too expensive. Some sound cards come with firwire too, so may want to look into that.

I'm not sure what your friend was doing, but it is not easy to fry a chip overclocking, especially intels. I remember when the P4 first came out, i saw a video showcasing it's performance/temperture throttling. Basically when the processor starts to get too hot, it starts to slow itself down so it doesn't fry. It was actually able to run without the heatsink on it, albeit very slowly. The T-bird they tested with it, just kept getting hotter, going over 400 degrees farenheit (if i remember correctly). That said, if you are careful, and gradually increase speeds while maintaining cooling, then you should have no problems. I've overclocked every system I've owned and destroyed none. The key is restraint, don't just go for that monster overclock right away just cause Joe Schmoe said his chip hit that, and make sure you keep an eye on cooling.

Good luck, and have fun
Mike
post #18 of 22
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wow u can unlock the rendering pipelines, wow thats so cool, i am thinking about ordering a shuttle case and a shuttle mobo and powersupply so i can have a good lan computer i dont know tho, i wont do that if the shuttle mobo doesnt support the new amd stuff coming june 1st
post #19 of 22
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o ya about my friend i have no clue what he was doin but i saw the inside after he fried it and the plastic on the processor and on the mobo around the processor was all melty and twisted out of shape. i was like holy SH!^
post #20 of 22
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hmmmm i just went to shuttle.com and i was looking at there comps, they have ones with good specs amd 64 ati 9800 but the powersupply is only 250 watts. if i order parts from shuttle and build a shuttle comp will the 250 watt power supply be a problem
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