Got An Acer 8006Lmi Today - Page 2

I definitely agree,....what's going to save Sager, though, is the fact that the Desktop roadmap is going towards the Pentium-M as well. So, those desktop procs are going to be low power as well.

You are crazy!

No way, max power in a laptop is the future, you'll notice Acer is also starting to do it along with Alienware, Voodoo, Hypersonic, AND NOW DELL. I'm looking at the sales numbers and it's only going up leaning towards these heavy systems when comparing growth. LAN players will glady take a 20%+ gain in performance for half the battery life and more weight. There's clearly a market for both, but one who uses and chooses one over the other that thinks the other choice is pointless really needs to put themselves in someone else's shoes. We get request from people to buy without a battery even because they don't care about using it without a plug, they just want a powerful system they can take with them to LAN parties or to and from work.

I personally use the 8790 for daily use and gaming and my second choice with having dozens of systems to choose from would be the Acer 1712. I game at the office, at home, and at the store, inbetween those times, it's stored in my Targus backpack and I'm using my I-Mate PC phone with Windows 2003 to do any internet or work while on the go. More battery is a must for some and not for others that is why some will lean towards the battery and others will lean towards performance. Most programmers and DVD watchers=battery, most gamers=performance... period. I have millions of $ in sales statistics to back any of this up. Sager used to offer the 5650 and 5660 side by side with the only different being the the battery life because 5650 had the mobile processor while the 5620 had the desktop P4. Yes there were pricing differences, but the sales were at least 50 to 1 people choosing the performance over battery life. You'll notice the mobile version of the 56XX is no longer.

It's true that mostly the gamers are the driving force of these heavy, poor battery life systems, but gaming sales are in the billions and growing like nothing else in the world of PCs.

Sorry, but totally disagree with your ideas. At least you have lost the European market´s view at all. When most of those gamers you said, realize about the new raw power in the future versions of Dothan at 533 FSB and above, sharing at least the power of P4 (even at 4.1 Mhz and above) while having lots of battery (for whatever you may want it)...there won´t be any reason for getting a coffee machine, just because even most of those gamers who do not know (as usual. They do not need it either) enough IT knowledge, and just want diversion (fair tho...) they do know the effects of the over-heating on their P4 and similar machines...

Can you tell us then why the newer servers of the greatest enterprises are based on Pentium M instead? P4 is not the future. Ok, maybe not right now, but in a very near future, the newer generations of PM and their future developments will lead the way...


However, it´s just an opinion...

Sorry for the OT

Still looking for good pics of the 8000 TFT, if possible, as the ones of the Acer 2025 review; that is in comparison with other laptops

Dekka,

Thanks for the review. I have the 8003Lmi. I was wondering how hard it was to switch out the second sodimm under the keyboard? Would you mind typing out instructions? Also, is the CPU accesible when you switch out the memory?

I also have the same problem with the screen. At first it really bothered me, but I have changed the contrast/brightness/gamma through the ATI settings, and it is less noticable.

On a side note, I ordered from PCTorque when they had the 8003 listed with a 5400 rpm HD. Since Acer ships it with a 4200 rpm HD, PCTorque (Adam was very helpful with this issue) decided to trade up my 4200 rpm for a 5400 rpm HD. Now that is customer service! I am glad I did not order from another reseller, since it is very doubtful they would have traded up my HD like PCTorque. Will definitely give this company more business.

I'm a little confused to where you are getting this knowledge, which greater enterprises are going with Pentium M? From what I can see the leading edge server are now using the Intel Itanium 2, which boast large L3 cache sizes and greater bandwidth... not less power and/or based on Intel M architecture. While I do see big things in the future for the Intel M, such as the "Sonoma" and the wide range of support it does offer. What you are however neglecting to mention is the higher end P4 line, if we are going to look at the crème of the crop in mobile lets look at the best desktop series. "Dothan" does suggest comparable performance to the P4's but not the future of P4e or P4ee.

"While I do see big things in the future for the Intel M, such as the "Sonoma" and the wide range of support it does offer."

You´re right here. Albeit still thinking about the limited possibilities of the newer P4e and subsequent series. But as you should know, there´s more than a mere chance that Intel´s future developments is going to exploit this dicotomy. On the one hand, they will try to keep the P4 flow alive , but OTOH, they cannot be in the way of the Intel M series, and their possibilities; AFAIK, more appealing than the P4 one.

The server issue, although they are still using , as you well said the Itanium (even older ones, Xen..., etc), they have started to test and replace part of those server systems. This is not from me, promise!!! The thing is that at least it sounds interesting ,huh? Intel M, in servers!

Still , an opinion, let´s see what happen by the end of the year.
The main point, as I see it, is that I am not sure if within a year there will still be two different ways, or just one...

PS
BTW, how about those pics (comparison with other 4:3 TFT). Thanking in advance

Again, sorry for the OT, case closed, just couldn´t avoid it

Still doubting after seeing the 8004. BTW according to Acer´s e-mail, the 8000 series TFT is a Hanstar HDS150PK14A with an average 180 nit, 250:1, and a very good response time (25ms), but the vertical angle (acc. to manufacturer´s website) is really very very limited. I am used to work while on the way with my "precious" Compaq 2715US, which is old but with a generous 15" WSXGA+. I have also had one CL56, the HP ZD7055 and the ZT3020EA. (the CL TFT ..mmm, the HPs are really good but Wide...) And although I have seen the 8000 TFT, I cannot make up my mind when talking about comparisons. I know my Compaq is an old one (PIII, 1,13, dual optical DVD and CDRW, etc) but the screen is really good, and hopefully the newer 4:3 TFTs will be all better...hopefully.
I have seen other ACer TFTs and I must confess that I did not like them...It is a real pity, because there are better models of the same Hanstar series with much more contrast ratio and brightness...so please, those pics will be a great help for those who like me, cannot imagine the right pic...Thanks again

This OT is getting interesting, with people making such strong arguments. Do you know that Intel cancelled the development of Tejas and Jayhawk processors and is betting on dual core Pentium M's for desktops? See, for example:

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=15777

Cheers,

Tommi

Yea, where does that map lead now that Intel has cancelled the future of the mighty P4. I imagine some minor updates to the presshot maybe but the Pentium M is the future for intel. I think they have known it for a while, it just took a good kick in the nad's from AMD to wake them up.

Hrm... I would have gotten the 8006 had I known it was going to be in stock this soon...

Anyways, can you please point me to the URL where the secondary ram module upgrade procedure is explained? I have no idea how to pop off the keyboard.

Thanks.

Thanks!

response time

I'm going to buy that laptop too.
do you know the response time of the LG screen ?

thank you