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1 Gb vs. 2 Gb RAM

post #1 of 70
Thread Starter 
Hi, all,

Have a question about RAM configurations for the Area-51m. In a society where more is almost always considered better, I am wondering why the Alienware Area-51m configurator states the system performs better with 1GB rather than with 2 GB of RAM. Seems to me the larger RAM might come in useful for future, more intense games/applications. Any thoughts on this subject?
post #2 of 70
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Originally Posted by obimattkenobi
Hi, all,

Have a question about RAM configurations for the Area-51m. In a society where more is almost always considered better, I am wondering why the Alienware Area-51m configurator states the system performs better with 1GB rather than with 2 GB of RAM. Seems to me the larger RAM might come in useful for future, more intense games/applications. Any thoughts on this subject?
I cant see how this would possibly be true...

maybe you wont see any performance gaisn from 1 to 2 because o overkill but to say 1 performs better is crazy
post #3 of 70
2 Gigs might be good later.. but your video card and processor and everything else isn't going to be that good later on, just get 1 GB.
post #4 of 70
it would create additional latency if you have excess not being used
post #5 of 70
having more ram is good for loading programs and multi tasking

windows xp alone takes up 128mb of resources and if your running a game like farcry it takes around 290mb to load

having large ram is good because whenever you load these programs you are using ram/mem to load it in 1 big gulp... if you only had 256mb of ram for example and tried to load farcry it would load maybe 1/2 way utilizing your ram/mem and then when it ran out, it would have to revert to ur hardisk which is a slower form factor compared to the speed of ram/mem
post #6 of 70
Please stop posting twice on the same thread. There is an edit button. Use it.
post #7 of 70
The 1gb is faster because its pc3200 whereas the 2gb is pc2700. The p4's love memory bandwidth and you might notice a difference between the 1 and 2gb.

I have 1gb in my a51m and I usually have 750+mb free when not running anything.
post #8 of 70
The reason why you would get better performace on a one gig is:

1) The 1 gig consists of two 512 sticks so its a bit faster than just having a gig stick

2) You don't really need 2 gigs yet, so really you are wasting your money because when it is useful, the RAM will be cheaper,

3) Most importantly, the types of RAM for the 1 and 2 Gigs are different. The 1 gig model gets you PC-3200 (Fastest RAM out there I think) meanwhile the 2 gig gets you PC-2700 (Still pretty fast, but RAM is the main thing you can't have it fast enough.)

When it comes to RAM, the speed of it effects the performace of it more than the amount of RAM you have (To a reasonable extent ).
post #9 of 70
Yeah, my advice (which I'll be following myself) is to get the 1 gig. And then, a year from now when 3200 1gig sticks are available and possibly cheap (considering it'll be June 2005), and, in addition, your circa June 2005 programs might actually make use of the extra RAM, upgrade to 2 gigs.

That's alot of commas!
post #10 of 70
1GB PC-3200 > 2GB PC-2700 in speed
1GB PC-3200 < 2GB PC-2700 in size
1 Stick > 2 Sticks in speed
Therefore 1GB is twice as fast as 2GB, the 2GB would become a bottleneck next to a 3.4GHz P4

My suggestion: Get the cheapest 512MB and go to CompUSA, invest in two sticks of PC-3200. That's what I will be doing when my wallet recovers from price shock.
post #11 of 70
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Originally Posted by fiction1337
Please stop posting twice on the same thread. There is an edit button. Use it.
Relax man, it's not like he said the same thing twice. The last time I checked you weren't a mod. Maybe you should ignore this multi thread altogether.
post #12 of 70
Despite the fact that he is not a mod, this question was already brought up and answered just a few days ago... there is also some information there
post #13 of 70
That's not what he's complaining about. He's referring to Rincwind's double post and yes it has been discussed before like many other topics.
post #14 of 70
Okay, let me rephrase this... despite the complaint the original poster should check out the other thread made earlier this week relating to the same problem.

Matter of fact, I think that this would be a great item to add to the Area-51m FAQ
post #15 of 70
Thread Starter 
Thanks to all who took the time to reply to my original post of this thread. Your responses have been helpful as I (and undboubtedly many others) continue to narrow down our choices for our next notebook purchase.

That said, I wish to respond to criticisms of this thread, namely the notion that it's creation and core question is redundant. I did, in fact, utilize the search function to try and locate another thread of this same topic to no avail prior to starting this thread. I most certainly did not wish to waste anyone's valuable time by adding to the many threads already in this forum. I would offer the suppostition that noone is born a computer expert. It is through the sharing of ideas that we each become a little more educated about this amazing hobby of ours. Being critical of the inquisitional nature of those of us who thirst for additional knowledge simply because the current thread's question has been previously posed is detrimental to this process of sharing thoughts and ideas.

The title of my thread made it's core question quite obvious. Unless the mere existence of such a post, redundant or otherwise, is stealing much needed bandwidth and memory from a forum member's PC, I would suggest this: if you find a thread or a post within tedious or redundant, simply do not reply. Resist the temptation of left clicking on that post title to save yourself valuable time. I can assure you those of us who sincerely pose questions to forum members in an earnest attempt to better understand computers and computing would prefer you save your time, as well. Posts to our threads which criticize the necessity of said thread's existence do little but discourage the future sharing of ideas in this forum.

In closing, I grow weary of those who take an elitist view regarding this invaluable forum. Those who have knowledge, but have little patience when it comes to sharing such information to those of us who know little, should carefullly choose which threads to read as to avoid causing themselves (and others) undo frustration.

Thanks, again, to everyone who initially replied in earnest to my original post.
post #16 of 70
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Originally Posted by Volvagia
The reason why you would get better performace on a one gig is:

1) The 1 gig consists of two 512 sticks so its a bit faster than just having a gig stick

2) You don't really need 2 gigs yet, so really you are wasting your money because when it is useful, the RAM will be cheaper,

3) Most importantly, the types of RAM for the 1 and 2 Gigs are different. The 1 gig model gets you PC-3200 (Fastest RAM out there I think) meanwhile the 2 gig gets you PC-2700 (Still pretty fast, but RAM is the main thing you can't have it fast enough.)

When it comes to RAM, the speed of it effects the performace of it more than the amount of RAM you have (To a reasonable extent ).
You are actually wrong about PC-3200 being the fastest ram. In the ALX ALienware released the other day the ram is operating at 550 MHz it is
PC-4400
post #17 of 70
Well, like I said, I thought that was the fastest. I don't work to stay current with the bleeding edge as I don't need to. I'm not one of those performance junkies who bleed every last frame per second they can get out of their system. I just want to be able to play my games with reasonable performance.

Heh, I guess the bit about not caring about graphics is that I am an old Nintendo fan that enjoyed the N64.
post #18 of 70
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Originally Posted by Volvagia
Well, like I said, I thought that was the fastest. I don't work to stay current with the bleeding edge as I don't need to. I'm not one of those performance junkies who bleed every last frame per second they can get out of their system. I just want to be able to play my games with reasonable performance.
Not to mention the fact that we're talking about the a51m and not the ALX.
post #19 of 70
I would say just go for the 1GB ram, now even the most demanding of softwares even good 3d rendering sof. like 3dmax wont need 2GB ram to run smooothly... and the requirement for the RAM doesnt change that quick, video card does but not the RAM...so 1GB would be fine for quite along time + if u want to upgrade later on, with the same price for the 2GBRAM that u will pay now, you may upgrade it 2.5GB cuz it will become cheaper
post #20 of 70
FYI (for those unaware): 1024MB PC3200/DDR400 modules are (and have been, for at the very least the past two months) available from a myriad of manufacturers, making 2048MB PC3200/DDR400 possible if one's chipset supports such.
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