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post #1 of 16
6/8/04 at 2:30am
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I was wondering if it is worth getting the x800xt in AGP format because you really wanna use this card for more than 3 years, and in the future AGP might be taken over by PCI Exp. If so, wouldn't it be a waste to buy AGP x800xt?
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post #2 of 16
6/8/04 at 3:05am
I doubt it’s a waste of money. The 800xt should carry you for three years or longer, and all that means is if you want a new video card, you have to get a new motherboard witch you probably want to do if and when you video card goes out of date.
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post #3 of 16
6/8/04 at 3:30am
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what i mean is that if i get a AGP x800xt, but maybe 1 year from now i plan to upgrade the rest of my comp, the mobo will probably only have PCI Ex? If thats the case then theres no reason to get AGP x800xt.
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post #4 of 16
6/8/04 at 4:44am
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Originally Posted by Clonedancient
what i mean is that if i get a AGP x800xt, but maybe 1 year from now i plan to upgrade the rest of my comp, the mobo will probably only have PCI Ex? If thats the case then theres no reason to get AGP x800xt.
No, recent reports show that there are going to be mobos with both types of slots.

http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.html?i=2074

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At Computex we saw something very interesting - both Intel and SiS based motherboards featuring dual graphics slots, AGP and PCI Express x16 to be specific. What makes these dual slot motherboards so interesting is that supposedly on VIA's chipsets actually featured both AGP and PCI Express x16 interfaces. So were Intel and SiS pressured into following in VIA's footsteps? We hit the show floor at Computex to try and find out.
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post #5 of 16
6/8/04 at 5:55am
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Interesting. But all can assume the the card with PCI exp format will perform better no? Plus, it is kinda possible that 1-2 years from now AGP might be abandoned, like that old slot which i forgot the name. Any idea when the PCI-Ex mobo + gpu will come out?
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post #6 of 16
6/8/04 at 12:29pm
i dont know when it will come out and i was wondering the same thing, the old slot u were trying to remember was pci. and pci express operates at i think *1 *2 *4 *8 *16
agp goes up to only *8.
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post #7 of 16
6/8/04 at 12:47pm
Yeah but current cards cant fill the AGPx8 rate yet. I think so far AGPx4 is still enough... It just makes sure that the ports will not be the bottlenecks but rather CPU/HDD/VGA/RAM are
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post #8 of 16
6/8/04 at 1:11pm
the current cards do fill x8
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post #9 of 16
6/8/04 at 1:42pm
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The question still that will we see AGP ports in the future? I duno but the PCI Exp looks like a replacement for AGP. I hope i am misinformed.
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post #10 of 16
6/8/04 at 2:24pm
PCI Express...AGP...me no care. I just got an e-mail stating that my X800 XT 256MB Platinum card shipped today. Once I get that little beastie plugged into my PC, I'll be happy, happy, happy for a long, long, long time!!!
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post #11 of 16
6/8/04 at 3:34pm
Lemme get out my crystal ball and give you the answers you seek ...

Truth is no one knows what is going to happen in 3 years in the computer industry, much less next year, barely next month. If you want top of the line graphics you are going to have to replace your graphics card every 2-3 years.

Case in point: my desktop is about 4 years old and has a nVidia TNT Riva2 3D SomethingOrOther, it was not top of the line when I got it but was upper end. I would not even think of playing Far Cry or any of the newest mondo games on it, but it does wonderfuly on games such as Warcraft III (although I have played WCIII on my new 8600 and it looks WAY better). The mobo has a 2x AGP slot so my upgrade options are limited also. I am personally gonna wait for PCI Ex and then get a new system.

So back to the crystal ball and your question ... it is all speculation. We saw VESA slots for a while after ISA was introduced (or do I have those backwards?), ISA slots after PCI was introduced, PCI video cards after AGP was introduced (can still get them for that matter, but you have to look a little harder), etc. Yes I think PCIEX will replace AGP but your system is not going to go from screaming gaming system to doorstop overnight. It will take a few nights at least
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post #12 of 16
6/8/04 at 4:58pm
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All i fear is that if i do get a AGP card, then maybe 1 year later i decide to upgrade there won't be any AGP Mobo on the market! Well, like you said, its all speculation. Maybe i should spend some time waiting to see how things turn out.

Jswrit, give us a specific review on the card when u get it
btw, where did u get the card from?
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post #13 of 16
6/8/04 at 5:23pm
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Originally Posted by Clonedancient
Jswrit, give us a specific review on the card when u get it
btw, where did u get the card from?
I'll be updating my Hornet Pro review (here in the Desktops Forum) when my X800 XT arrives in a few days. I ordered it from Best Buy.
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post #14 of 16
6/8/04 at 10:05pm
heres a plan jswriter, since u clearly have a lot of money cause that is a hot comp u have, u should order me an x800xt and we can be x800 buddies! im building my own computer a lot like urs except for the x800, and im getting the 3000+ instead of 3200+. and im not getting a dvd writer. i spent all of my earnings on it.
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post #15 of 16
6/8/04 at 10:27pm
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Well i want to build a new comp as well, but i think the comp i have now is decent. Its a dell 4550 ( i know i know ita a DELL), its got 250 w PSU, p4 2.53, and 620 ram. I really hope this comp can do well with the x800, but it appears i need everything new. My current budget is 1000 and i want a A64 + x800 with a decent, quiet case. Maybe a new 512mb ram. Is that possible to acheive?
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post #16 of 16
6/9/04 at 1:51am
ya it probably is cause the amd 64 3000+ is 218 the x800 is 475 (i think) and cases are about 50-100. ud also have to get a new mobo to support the amd and thats around 100.
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