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post #861 of 1272
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Originally Posted by Hemlan
can not do i clean install with out the f*** reinstall program/disc change the ntfs to lovely fat32 system can someone tell me to do it without that!
Can i download winxp from the net and install it with my serial or it that crazy?
Yes, you could do that or this:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;307881

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Originally Posted by Hemlan
And i dont see the amd power alternative in the energyalternatives. I have sp2 installed and i have the amd power now and drivers for the cpu, i have the amd dashboard to
Just use the "Max Battery" power scheme and all will be fine.

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Originally Posted by Hemlan
And can someone public the newest drivers for the ferrari 3200 and links!
See here:
http://csd.acer.com.tw/SI/Download2....0?OpenDocument
http://csd.acer.com.tw/SI/Download2....d?OpenDocument
http://notebookforums.com/showthread...768#post403768
post #862 of 1272
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Originally Posted by Hemlan
And can someone public the newest drivers for the ferrari 3200 and links!
Here is an additional link to original drivers

http://support.acerpanam.com/synapse...d=3394#results

Select Product Line -> Notebooks and Ferrari 3200 and do the search.
post #863 of 1272
Ok, I have had my Ferrari 3200 for a few weeks now and loving it. But its about time to give it several upgrades. I'm still waiting for Seagate to release their 100gb 7200 rpm HD before I upgrade my HD but now I'm in a delimma with upgrading my ram.

Which is better 1gb (2 512mb) of Corsair XMS DDR 400 or 1gb (single stick) of Kingmax DDR 333 plus a stock 256mb of ram?

It'll be awhile before I can upgrade to 2gb so just assume that I'm not going to.

Thanks in advance
post #864 of 1272
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Originally Posted by NightHawk7
Which is better 1gb (2 512mb) of Corsair XMS DDR 400 or 1gb (single stick) of Kingmax DDR 333 plus a stock 256mb of ram?
1GB Corsair XMS DDR 400 is much better than 1.25 DDR 333 because DDR 400 increase the memory bandwidth which is better for gaming.
post #865 of 1272
Why do u use DDR @ 400 MHz when in service manual a 333 MHz value is given? Do you really utlizie the 400 MHz?
post #866 of 1272
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Originally Posted by djgogo
Why do u use DDR @ 400 MHz when in service manual a 333 MHz value is given? Do you really utlizie the 400 MHz?
Yes, the Acer Ferrari 3200/3400 can utilize PC3200 memory at DDR400 speeds.
post #867 of 1272
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Originally Posted by snorre
Yes, the Acer Ferrari 3200/3400 can utilize PC3200 memory at DDR400 speeds.
How?

By switching it through A64Tweaker from 166Mhz to 200Mhz??
post #868 of 1272
I'm probably going to read this thread in its entirety and some of these questions may have been answered in this thread, but if it's not too much trouble:

Is heat a big issue, and if so, is there anything I can do to keep it cool? This will be my main machine for a while, so I'd like to do some gaming on it.

Is the memory easily upgradable? I'm not in the know when it comes to laptops, and I'd like to do this in about 6 months or so (and that would probably be the last performance upgrade, along with a new HD) I'd do with it).


Thanks

edit: Oh, and I'll probably do a fresh install of a new XP w/ SP2 (the new CDs). Is there anything special about formatting a laptop HD (either fdisk it or just use the formatting program within XP setup)? The mobo chipset is a VIA, so should I grab the latest 4-in-1s? Omega drivers over anything Acer modifies? Any drivers for other components I should be aware of? etc etc, you know the drill
post #869 of 1272
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Originally Posted by kerosin
How?

By switching it through A64Tweaker from 166Mhz to 200Mhz??
No, just replacing the PC2700 SO-DIMMs with PC3200 SO-DIMMs and the memory will boot up at DDR400 speed.
post #870 of 1272
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Originally Posted by Joust Williams
Is heat a big issue, and if so, is there anything I can do to keep it cool? This will be my main machine for a while, so I'd like to do some gaming on it.
Yes, get yourself a laptop cooler e.g. this heat-pipe based laptop cooler from Nexus is pretty cool:
http://www.nexustek.nl/tdd3000.htm

No cables or noisy fans.

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Originally Posted by Joust Williams
Is the memory easily upgradable? I'm not in the know when it comes to laptops, and I'd like to do this in about 6 months or so (and that would probably be the last performance upgrade, along with a new HD) I'd do with it).
See my post here:
http://notebookforums.com/showthread...430#post361430

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Originally Posted by Joust Williams
Is there anything special about formatting a laptop HD (either fdisk it or just use the formatting program within XP setup)?
No, same as on a desktop HD - use XP setup.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joust Williams
The mobo chipset is a VIA, so should I grab the latest 4-in-1s? Omega drivers over anything Acer modifies? Any drivers for other components I should be aware of? etc etc, you know the drill
See my posts here:
http://notebookforums.com/showthread...619#post547619
http://notebookforums.com/showthread...768#post403768
post #871 of 1272
Thanks a bunch. Sorry about all the Qs; I should have read it first (I did eventually read it ;p) That brought up acouple of other thoughts/questions:

I don't need anything from Acer's site, right? Seems like you listed a link for every manufacturer, so I assume that covered everything, and Acer's drivers were just older versions of them in one place.

There is Gigabit LAN on the machine? I thought I read somewhere that it had it, then I looked other places that didn't mention it, and then I read your driver post and it did include drivers for a Gb LAN device.

Any reason to install the A64 CPU driver (or the PowerNow!)? I was reading the small description it gave on the DL page and it talked about adjusting the clock to meet the current needs of the user. No conflicts with anything? I'd probably just use two settings--highest battery save possible (for when I'm actually needing the battery) and max performance (when it's plugged in or I'm watching a bit of video with battery).

Does DVDIdle give you a few more minutes of DVD viewing on the battery? I'd assume maybe because the disc doesn't have to spin as much (or at least, that's what they say--I've never used it). If it made a 10 minute or more difference, I'd probably shell out the 20 bucks that they want for it.

How is the display at 1024x768? I know it's not its native res, but it should still look OK, right?
post #872 of 1272
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joust Williams
I don't need anything from Acer's site, right? Seems like you listed a link for every manufacturer, so I assume that covered everything, and Acer's drivers were just older versions of them in one place.
Well, you still need the Bluetooth & modem drivers and the launch manager from Acer's site. I also suggest that you use the latest version of the ATI VGA driver from there too instead of the latest Omega drivers since there's a battery power standby bug with them.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joust Williams
There is Gigabit LAN on the machine? I thought I read somewhere that it had it, then I looked other places that didn't mention it, and then I read your driver post and it did include drivers for a Gb LAN device.
Yes, the Acer Ferrari 3200/3400 got integrated Broadcom NetXtreme BCM57xx Gigabit LAN - best in class as a matter of fact too

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joust Williams
Any reason to install the A64 CPU driver (or the PowerNow!)? I was reading the small description it gave on the DL page and it talked about adjusting the clock to meet the current needs of the user. No conflicts with anything? I'd probably just use two settings--highest battery save possible (for when I'm actually needing the battery) and max performance (when it's plugged in or I'm watching a bit of video with battery).
No conflicts, see this PDF document for a description of the benefits of PowerNow! and how to enable it:
http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/cont...Power_Now2.pdf
Quote:
How Does AMD PowerNow! Technology Work ?

The premise behind AMD PowerNow! technology is a very simple one. Some applications require less processing power than others. Word processing, for example, consumes relatively few processor cycles, but if you run photo editing or other media-rich applications on the same system, more processor cycles will be required for responsive performance.

AMD PowerNow! technology controls your notebook’s level of processor performance automatically, dynamically adjusting the operating frequency and voltage many times per second, according to the task at hand. When an application does not require full performance, significant amounts of power can be saved. However, the processor can “instantaneously” respond to increased workloads, allowing the system to deliver a responsive and rewarding computing experience.

The only difference the user will see on most applications is significantly longer battery life. Performance will still be responsive, with maximum processor performance being delivered when required, and automatic power savings when possible. AMD PowerNow! technology even has benefits when you are working at your desk with the notebook on AC power, since the system will typically run cooler and quieter.
See also my post here:
http://notebookforums.com/showthread...650#post458650

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joust Williams
Does DVDIdle give you a few more minutes of DVD viewing on the battery? I'd assume maybe because the disc doesn't have to spin as much (or at least, that's what they say--I've never used it). If it made a 10 minute or more difference, I'd probably shell out the 20 bucks that they want for it.
You can actually get up to 1 hour more of DVD viewing on the battery using DVDIdle, so it's absolutely worth every buck in my opinion.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joust Williams
How is the display at 1024x768? I know it's not its native res, but it should still look OK, right?
Yes, for the crispest possible picture quality you should always use resolutions with correct 4:3 aspect ratio like 1400x1050, 1152x864, 1024x768, 800x600, or 640x480.
post #873 of 1272
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Originally Posted by lithiumcharles
On battery I set the mutiplier to 4.5, reaching a modest 900mhz at .8v (the lowest setting allowed). And as an update, I can get about 3hr42min without wireless and no music, and around 3hr17min listening to music and with wireless on. It is fairly easy to reach these settings without trouble(at least in my trials) and I would assume you should see similar gains.
Can I ask you lithiumcharles?

How do you make your notebook to keep those settings?


I set multiplier and voltage through crystalcpuid(or trhough shortcut) to 4x and 0.8V. For a while it works O.K. but then especially if I run Prime95 everything return to the defaults (x9 1.2V / x4 0.9V)
post #874 of 1272
Quote:
Originally Posted by snorre
I also suggest that you use the latest version of the ATI VGA driver from Acer's site instead of the latest Omega drivers since there's a battery power standby bug with them.
Didn't you say that this bug (snow on the LCD ) was caused by Radlinker ?

Now, I'm not sure.
post #875 of 1272
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Originally Posted by kerosin
Didn't you say that this bug (snow on the LCD ) was caused by Radlinker ?

Now, I'm not sure.
Yes, and RadLinker is now an integrated part of the Omega drivers. Although, there's now a test version of RadLinker out that fixes this bug with the current version of the Omega drivers:
http://users.adelphia.net/~webspace/RadLinkerTest.zip

I expect it to be included in the next version of the Omega drivers.
post #876 of 1272
Thanks for the info again, snorre. So let's say I'm with the AC adaptor and I want 100% performance. Will this program give it all to me, or will it decide that 95% is enough?

Oh and I have heard about a driver modder (patje's ?) that converts ATi's drivers to work on the laptop. Since those are 2 iterations ahead of Omega's, should I try that, or is it best to use Oemga's for other reasons that I'm not aware of yet.

Oh, and while this is the main thread for this laptop, is there an easy way to add the native resolution to a lot of the older games? I like to play (ZDoomGL) Doom 1 and 2 still ;p
post #877 of 1272
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joust Williams
Oh and I have heard about a driver modder (patje's ?) that converts ATi's drivers to work on the laptop. Since those are 2 iterations ahead of Omega's, should I try that, or is it best to use Oemga's for other reasons that I'm not aware of yet.
I also like Omega's drivers, but since his last release was 4.10beta, and I wanted performance boost for HL2 which comes with 4.12beta catalysts.
So I did tried Patje's modification for 4.12b from here: http://www.driverheaven.net/showthread.php?t=61156
and have no problem and few extra fps in HL2
post #878 of 1272
Can you tell me what is the exact type of the F3200 / F3400?chipset? It is cliamed to be "VIA K8T800 ProSavage" but there is no such model in the VIA chipsets list. Perhaps it is just K8T800, or K8T800 Pro. What chipset and mainboard gives the cpu-z ?


It is important for the type of memory supported.
Compatible memory appears to be the following:
Transcend, Part #: TS64MSD64V4F3 — 512MB PC3200 DDR SO-DIMM
64Mx64 DIMM / 32Mx8 / CL3 / 16 chips, 200 pins, 400MHz (DDR400), double-sided
PDF at 512MB - TS64MSD64V4F3
List of Transcend memories - here

With this regard there is a concern: In the F3200 service manual a 2.5 V core voltage is given, but the Transcend SO-DIMM memory (512 MB stick) has core voltage of 2.6 V +- 0.1 V. The 0.1 V tolerance should be just fine I suppose. (for the Corsair SDRAM stick, in the product brochure, no voltage supply is provided)

Soon I'm gonna post a list of compatible memories.
post #879 of 1272
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joust Williams
Thanks for the info again, snorre. So let's say I'm with the AC adaptor and I want 100% performance. Will this program give it all to me, or will it decide that 95% is enough?
That's not how it works, it will provide you with 100% performance all the time when needed. It just a feature that saves power when the processor is inactive - read the PDF document I linked to and you'll get the idea.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joust Williams
Oh, and while this is the main thread for this laptop, is there an easy way to add the native resolution to a lot of the older games? I like to play (ZDoomGL) Doom 1 and 2 still ;p
Yes, exactly like you do it on a desktop.
post #880 of 1272
Quote:
Originally Posted by djgogo
What chipset and mainboard gives the cpu-z ?
CPU-Z Mainboard:
Manufacturer: Acer, Inc.
Model: Ferrari 3200 Rev. A
Chipset: VIA K8T800 (VT8383) Rev. 1
Southbridge: VIA VT8235

Quote:
Originally Posted by djgogo
With this regard there is a concern: In the F3200 service manual a 2.5 V core voltage is given, but the Transcend SO-DIMM memory (512 MB stick) has core voltage of 2.6 V +- 0.1 V. The 0.1 V tolerance should be just fine I suppose. (for the Corsair SDRAM stick, in the product brochure, no voltage supply is provided)
2.5V is standard for PC3200 memory according to JEDEC spec, so both these will be perfectly fine.
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