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post #1 of 38
6/9/04 at 5:35am
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Hey Booga, I saw you have only 128 up on your web server.

I thought 128 would be too slow for a site, but yours works good unuf for what I wanna do.

So, I have an extra cpu Id like to host a web site/ftp server from.
In order to do so Ill have to shell out an xtra 30$ a month (double what I pay now) for a static IP, and 384/128 is the best speed I can get(same as what I have now w/ a dynamic IP).

So i dont wanna spend the xtra money on the static IP while Im learning and getting stuff set up.

Ultimatley Id like a web site and/or ftp- but also a small BB similar to this for personal use, and an email server.

As I said I have the extra cpu, although I know abit about cpu's and some programming Im completely virgin to everthing Ill need to know/do to get the stuff I mentioned above going.

Where do I start?
I know its a really broad question, but Id really like to get going and I gotta start somewhere.
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post #2 of 38
6/9/04 at 6:02am
Server specs: (From memory)
P3 450 mhz
384 MB RAM
15 Gig HD
Slackware 9.x Linux - so fitting for the Slacker.NET domain.
Apache Web Server comes default. I remember updating it at one point.
QMAIL POP3/SMTP (authenticated) Mail Server. Setup instructions used qmailrocks.com

although the specs are ancient compared to what is normally discussed here, the server has performed without any problems. It sits in the corner without a monitor, and has been there humming along since June of last year. The only upgrade I plan for it is the addition of a new hard drive to increase LAN storage.

Your biggest hurdle is the IP address. I am subscribed to a small ISP which provides the static IP in all their DSL packages. Verizon area DSL users have packages with uploads as high as 768. Too much $$$ for me to get into for such a light server load.
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post #3 of 38
6/9/04 at 4:58pm
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The IP adress is a matter of money thats all, for the extra 30$ I actually get 5 IP's.
My machine is a celeron 500mhz, 128 ram, 10 gig hdd, it runs XP fine so it should be enough to get started.

I was hoping for a little more detail than what software your using.....ala the first thing need to do is install Slackware, then install apache from xxxxx, then...... whatever- all Ive ever done w/ linuz is install redhat once, so please keep that in mind.

thx
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post #4 of 38
6/9/04 at 5:12pm
www.no-ip.com

This site offers an IP redirection service that allows you to have a server on a dynamic IP address. Basically they issue you a static IP and have a small program that runs on your computer and updates their service with your current dynamic IP. One of the services is free, the other (which lets you use your own domain name) costs $25 a month.

Kelly
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post #5 of 38
6/9/04 at 5:32pm
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Wow, what a great tip, I was disapointed that a 5$ a month savings would only allow for one domain, but as i researched its 25$ a year not a month!!!!!!!!!! Its on like donkey KONG!!!
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post #6 of 38
6/9/04 at 10:50pm
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Originally Posted by archalien
The IP adress is a matter of money thats all, for the extra 30$ I actually get 5 IP's.
My machine is a celeron 500mhz, 128 ram, 10 gig hdd, it runs XP fine so it should be enough to get started.

I was hoping for a little more detail than what software your using.....ala the first thing need to do is install Slackware, then install apache from xxxxx, then...... whatever- all Ive ever done w/ linuz is install redhat once, so please keep that in mind.

thx
Since you have already installed RedHat in the past, install of Slack will not be that much different.

Download Slak 9.x free from slackware.com
The download will be for a bootable CD image
Boot into the CD and let the install go from there.
Choose the option for static IP address and give your computer an IP for your LAN. Use the router's IP for DNS and Gateway.
Towards the end of Slak 9.1 install, you will have the option to include services which will have Apache among the options. Once the Install is complete and you boot the computer for the first time, Apache will already be running. Test the web server by typing the IP address you assigned to it in a browser.

The files for your web server will be at /var/www/htdocs
This folder will have the default index file and a manual folder which contains tons of information that I have not even started on. I'll get to it someday. :-)

This ends the lesson for setting up Apache on Slak :-)

I will dig up my notes for the rest later and post it here.

Setting up mail server however will be something else. You - my brother - are on your own with that one. :-)

QMAILROCKS.ORG was the best guide that I could find for setting up POP3 mail server with authenticated SMTP. Someday I will look into webmail for my mail server, but it is not a priority since my reason for setting up the server in the first place was to have POP3 mail.
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post #7 of 38
6/9/04 at 11:07pm
Here's another option with your dynamic IP. The attached file is a screenshot of DDNS option of my router. Most newer models routers will have DDNS option.
LL
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post #8 of 38
6/10/04 at 4:03am
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my router has ddns too, I went to their page but got totally confused about dns, hostnames, redirection well everything

Im pretty sure my redhat has apache, could I use it instead of dl'ing slackware or is there a reason I should choose slackware over the redhat I have?
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post #9 of 38
6/10/04 at 4:17am
I find that slackware is leaner in terms of distro packaging. If the goal is to run a server, the distro should not matter much, it is Linux just the same. Yes Redhat does have Apache.

Try out both of them and se which you prefer. If you do decide on Slackware, I recommend using dropline for the GUI.

One thing that sold me as i was choosing which distro to use.

Slackware has stayed as close to UNIX as possible in terms of structure. I for one can't confirm this since i am not at all that experienced with Linux/Unix. I just felt that I should stick to the "standards" as closely as possible as I am learning.
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post #10 of 38
6/10/04 at 5:43am
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since I already have a store bought redhat I think I ll go w/ it for now especially since I have experience with the installer.

the ddns site, correct me if im wrong, requires you to use web names tied to account addresses they own, even the paid ones- ie www.archalien.ddnsredirect.com although they offer an option to ghost out the ddns part, I dont like that, plus they only register domains and dont provide dns service. Or so I think???
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post #11 of 38
6/10/04 at 7:00am
What company options do you have for DDNS with your router?

Most likely you will have DYNDNS as a choice.

The link below would suggest that they offer DNS service as a separate package from registration.
http://www.dyndns.org/services/pricing/
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post #12 of 38
6/10/04 at 6:07pm
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I have DynDNS and TZO.com, gotta check TZO out.
It does look like DynDNS offers DNS service but their service seems tied to hostnames they own with the option to cloak. I think Ill pass on that.
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post #13 of 38
6/11/04 at 1:01pm
I can offer you hosting from a real webserver for $10 a month. Drop me an email.
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post #14 of 38
6/11/04 at 2:47pm
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I did about 3 months ago and you never responded.....
for the price at no-ip, i think im gunna try to set up myself. thx tho
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post #15 of 38
6/11/04 at 8:02pm
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Hey Booga, where should I install programs at in linux?
ie Program Files in Windows
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post #16 of 38
6/11/04 at 11:35pm
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ok booga, I got linux runnin and on the web, but i went dhcp, but for now thats ok cuz th ip wont change.

Im still confused about apache though, can u post your config of apache it might help me.
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post #17 of 38
6/12/04 at 12:31am
run "top" and see if httpd service is running.
if not "httpd start" to run it
run top again to confirm
type the IP of the server in a browser to test


Add services to load on startup
vi /etc/rc.d/rc.local
add the line
httpd start

rc.local is like autoexec.bat
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post #18 of 38
6/12/04 at 1:21am
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its working!!!

had to start server! among a million other things, but....
will have to figure how to get server to start on boot, *runs to replace default page with a blank one with my name on it!*
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post #19 of 38
6/12/04 at 1:22am
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jumped the gun
works on linux box not on another cpu.....doh
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post #20 of 38
6/12/04 at 1:25am
Add HTTPD services to load on startup
vi /etc/rc.d/rc.local
add the line
httpd start

rc.local is like autoexec.bat
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