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Detailed Acer 2012 Review

post #1 of 32
Thread Starter 
I used this site as a place to help me gather information for my notebook purchase, so I'm here to contrbute what I can after making a purchase of the new Acer 2012. This is the 2012 with the Radeon 9700 64MB and DVD+/-RW.

Fan/Quietness: The thing is nearly inaudible when the fan is off. You can barely make out the hard drive working, and unless you are focused on hearing it, you probably won't. If you have the computer running for over an hour or so the fan will occasionally kick in. The tray loading DVD starts with a "whoosh", but isn't that bad once running. It is probably on par with other notebook dvds. All in all, I can't imagine a 15.4" notebook being much quieter than this one.

Build: I notice very little flex across the machine. It looks and feels incredibly sturdy. There isn't one part of the machine that I think looks cheap, or feel there is a chance that it might break off. The casing is plastic, not aluminum like the 2025, but it looks sharp with the silver outer casing.

Appearance: This is my favorite notebook in appearance. The silver accents and notebook lid coupled with the black finish looks fantastic. There are lots of cool lights and buttons that also add a little flair to the machine. In the looks department, this one takes the cake.

Trackpad and buttons: The pad buttons are a little stiff like people mention, but nothing taxing. For general purpose use like web surfing it is a non-issue. For intense gaming, it "might" be an issue. The trackpad works perfectly, and coupled with the 4-way scroll button, I prefer it over the other trackpads with the scroll area on the trackpad. There is no button to turn the trackpad off, but I have not once had a mishap typing because of the trackpad.

Keyboard: It does sit a little high, and the keys require more than a feather's touch, but it works well. No issues with the "ii" "in" or whatever the problem was with the 2000 Acer model. The keyboard feels like it will last. This is my first notebook so it is hard for me to compare the feel of the keyboard to others.

Screen: The screen is very sharp and very bright. The 15.4 WXGA provides more horizontal room than I would have thought. While the screen is not as good as the fujitsu crystal clear, I think it is better than everything else I have seen (all other major models) with the exception of the xbrite and toshibas if you don't mind the glare from those. I personally don't mind te glare, so I would take an Xbrite over this screen, but I'm still very happy with the screen.

Heat: Another great thing about this notebook is that the palm rests NEVER get warm. They maybe don't stay cool like plastic would, but they don't get warm either. I would say that the palm rests go to ambient temp after some useage. All other laptops I tried out had palm rests that would get warm to some degree--this one does not!

This is the only laptop I have used on my lap, so I can't compare to others, so take this with a grain of salt, but it can become uncomfortable on your lap under certain conditions. If it's warm, and you have been using it for a while on your lap, I start to get bothered by it, especially if I have pants on. It's not a painful hot, it's just an uncomfortable feeling, like maybe when you are a little warm because you still have yuor socks on during a warm evening. Same thing.

Performance: Haven't done any tests, so I can't say much, except that it boots much faster than my Athlon 1.7 desktop that will soon enter the junk heap. I have had no crashes or any mishaps in the few weeks that I have now had it.

Included Software: Comes with a licensed version of XP Pro including the cd-rom. Has some software for dvds and music, but I use my own. Not too much to get excited about.

Sound: The speakers are excellent for a laptop. i would compare them to the HP with the bose. They can get relatively loud for laptop spekaers. My only complaint is that at the minimum setting when using the keyboard controls, it isn't quite at a minimum--it's really at 2 steps up. For example, when using media jukebox, if I use the keyboard controls for the volume and set it to one click above off, the volume is at the equivalent level for 2 clicks of volume on media jukebox. When I want the music or sound to be at it's lowest before actually being off, I need to go into the program itself to adjust the volume. Not sure if other notebooks are like this as well.

Another thing to mention is that unlike most laptops with seperate audio controls, this one uses a the arrow keys on the bottom right of the keyboard coupled with a function key to turn the volume up and down. The left and right are for screen brightness, and the up and down are for volume. They are even marked with a blue picture to tell you the function. I think this design works really well and I actually prefer it to seperate buttons you might accidentally press. All of the major functions that involve use of the "Fn" key are labeled on the keys themselves: mute, screen off, hibernate, etc..

Wireless Connection: I had read that the previous Acer had problems connecting at times to wireless networks, the 2012 does not. I have not once lost a connection, and the signal strength is usually excellent with the full 54 MBps. There is a pretty orange button that lights up on the front right of the notebook when the lan is on. You can disable it by pressing it. I have once accidentally disabled it.

Battery life: Haven't really tested it out yet, but the reviews are very good for its battery life.

Did I miss anything? Hope this helps a buyer or two come to an informed decision. Overall, I'm extremely happy with my purchase and I would highly reccomend this laptop. If you are wanting a WXGA with a great video card, I think this is the best lap top out there for someone who wants a truly mobile (read: relatively light [6.6lbs] and long battery life [3-5hrs]) laptop.

Dave
LL
post #2 of 32
is it possible to get any performance benchmarks for your new machine? any pics?

great review btw, many thanks.

does this acer load with a tray or by slot?
post #3 of 32
Great review Dave. I too have the 2012 and I find it to be awesome as well. As far as he casing goes, I think that this is made of the same materials as the 2025 because the weight and measurements are exact across the board. The only difference other than the specs is that the 2012 does not have the media console in the front that the 2025 has and that the 2012 has the tray dvd drive.

As far as benchmarks go, the only one that I ran was 3d2003 and I got a score of 2554. Which is not too bad. I do have to qualify the score a bit since I have upgraded the system to 768 MB ram and 7200rpm hdd.
post #4 of 32
Thread Starter 
I will get some pics, but maybe not before the weekend. If you tell me how to test it, I will.

Regarding the casing, another guy was asking around about that same question. Acer says the 2025 and the 2000 have an aluminum casing. On their site it does not say anything about the case for the 2012. The 2025 and 2000 also share the arcade controls and slot loading dvd. From this information, and the fact that I know mine is made of plastic, I would imagine the 2000 and 2025 use the same casing--an aluminum one--while the 2012 uses a different one.

This is not to say the 2012 is a cheap casing, it just is different from the others. I love teh look and feel of my 2012, although I wouldn't mind the Aluminum casing or slot loading dvd.

Out of curiousity, do you guys feel the keys sit a little high and that the bottom can get warm, or are these things about normal for a laptop?
post #5 of 32
Hey Silver...congrats on your purchase and i'm glad to see you like it.

I have a 2025 and definitely agree that the bottom gets warm - for me it approaches uncomfortableness when plugged in but isn't so bad when on battery. I don't think that this is anything unusual though, as all my previous laptops got warm on the bottom as well. However, i have to admit it feels like this one gets noticably warmer than i'm used to when on AC. (To me, its more important that the palm rest area stays cool, and it does on these things.)

I have no complaints about the keyboard though - everybody says it sits too far back, but feels fine to me.

With regard to the casing, i'm still not really sure what the material is. I think the case is definitely different on the 2012 and the 2025 (as one example, i think the bottom of your case is black, but the 2025 is silver), but i'm not so sure the 2025 is aluminum. I think that it may be plastic reinforced w/ aluminum (if that's at all possible), b/c i have to say that this is th emost solid-feeling notebook i've owned.
post #6 of 32
Thread Starter 
Yeah, the bottom is black on mine. And I totally agree with you that it only becomes an issue, the bottom being warm, when on AC juice. What kind of mileage do you get on your battery, and on what setting?

Dave
post #7 of 32
Using the "Portable/Laptop" setting in power management and doing general web browsing/email/office stuff i get about 4 hours w/ WIFI on. Compared to what i'm used to, i'm more than happy with that.

I still need to do a dvd rundown test and a gaming test on it, so we'll se how it performs then. What are your numbers like?
post #8 of 32
Interesting. So the 2000 series is all aluminum as well? I am starting to lean back towards getting a wide screen notebook again. Having an all aluminum/metal body would be nice as I'm getting accustomed to the great build quality on my 800lci. I need to find a local place that sells one to play around with it .
post #9 of 32
I'm interesting a buying this computer, ACER ASPIRE AS2012WLMI, I would to know if this model includes the arcade console hardware (i mean front bottoms to play DVD/CDs without to boot the computer), the hard drive 60GB is 7200rpm and the battery how time get HH:mm), thanks for your advice
post #10 of 32
I'm interested in the 2012 too but I can't find any pics of it closed to see the "different" casing from the 2025, at least to see if there is a different outer appearance. Also, since it does not have that arcade thing, when the LCD is closed, is there anything that sticks out from the bottom of the laptop, or is there still a little display sticking out with the time and flashing words and stuff?
Hopefully you can get some pics up. Thanks!
post #11 of 32
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Originally Posted by Juank
I'm interesting a buying this computer, ACER ASPIRE AS2012WLMI, I would to know if this model includes the arcade console hardware (i mean front bottoms to play DVD/CDs without to boot the computer), the hard drive 60GB is 7200rpm and the battery how time get HH:mm), thanks for your advice
The 2012WLMi does not have the arcade hardware, the hard drive is a 60gb 4200rpm Hitachi/IBM Travelstar 80GN

I've not drained the battery fully, but I would estimate non-gaming/dvd playback time to be around 4 hours, gaming time would be between 1.5 and 2 hours, that's with the screen on medium brightness and the max-power power profile. eg cpu on full speed.

- Odie
post #12 of 32
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Originally Posted by RahulK
Also, since it does not have that arcade thing, when the LCD is closed, is there anything that sticks out from the bottom of the laptop, or is there still a little display sticking out with the time and flashing words and stuff?
Sorry, I can't help with the pics because I'm currently on vacation and don't have a digital camera with me.

The 2012WLMi does not have the arcade hardware, however it still has the 'lip' that sticks out a little bit, that has 3 or 4 indicator leds for charging, hd activity, etc. Apart from that, there is nothing else on that lip.

I must say that I am pretty happy with my choice, great features/price ratio.

Now if only someone would release a region-free firmware for the Matsu****a/Panasonic 820S dvd-multidrive!

- Odie
post #13 of 32
Can the hard drive be swapped out for a faster one?
post #14 of 32
Although I've not actually removed the drive myself, it seems that the hard drive is easily accessible from the bottom of the laptop.

- Odie
post #15 of 32
Would anyone mind running aquamark and 3dmark benchmarks on their 2012?
post #16 of 32
Stats on it, for those unfimilar.
post #17 of 32
Hey moogleyfive where did you get your 2025? What speed is the hard drive and how is the sound quality using the built in speakers and woofer? Have you got any benchies for the baby? I'm trying to decide whether to splurge on the 2026 (2.0 Ghz Dothan) or not.

Anyone have any comments/comparisons on ACER's stretching technology for fitting 4:3 and 16:10 to the display? How is it different from what you can get with any other widescreen? Is it actually a noticeable improvement?

Finally, how does this compare to the ASUS W1N besides the difference in gpu memory?

EDIT: Didn't someone post that their 2023/5 was set to region 0 on arrival? Does that mean it plays all regions or just that its not set to a particular one on arrival?
post #18 of 32
Does it seem like the cpu is upgradeable, or would the motherboard most likely not allow anything besides the 1.5ghz to go inside.

I.E when the dothan chips come down in price, would it be possible to replace the cpu in the 2012 with one of those?
post #19 of 32
will half life 2 run in 2012?
post #20 of 32
nice review

i'm looking for a notebook with the centrino build with a good card like the mobility 9700

i'll add this computer to my short list
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