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post #61 of 145
Don't know if you guys found out where to find the Asus M6N, but to answer some requests, discountlaptops.com has them, discounted i am sure
post #62 of 145
yes

they sell it with the 9600 64mb gpu

this one is new and has the 9700 64mb gpu
post #63 of 145
i coulda swore it said it had the 9700
let me check
post #64 of 145
Sorry, i thought it said 9700 128

in fact, discountlaptops.com only has the 9600 64

sorry, i misread
post #65 of 145
u were prolly reading the chembook 2056 with its 9700 128mb

(this is actually the compal cl56)
post #66 of 145
Do the new M6Ns have the option of a 128mb 9700?
post #67 of 145
unfortunetly no
post #68 of 145
What is the deal with SXGA+ LCD's that make them so bad?? Is it every single SXGA+ screen made, period. Is this regardless of size and brand, i.e. 14.1" and 15"?? Would the IBM with Flexview be an exception to this, how about the screen on the nc8000 SXGA+?
Andrew
Austin, TX

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Originally Posted by kevhuynh
Is it the SXGA+ LCD? Does it suck balls like every other SXGA+ LCD taht's out (horrible vertical viewing angles...contrast that leaves a bit to be desired...etc)?
post #69 of 145
not all 15 sxgas are the same

most use the same screen that has limited vert viewing angles etc

ferrari 3000/3200, mitac8335, compalcl56, etc... prolly more but i can only speculate from what others review... ive seen those aforementioned 3 in real life side by side and can confirm tehy are the same..

really its fine for the end user... they will be looking at it directly and not from odd angles so i dont see why its an issue...

i can see why it would irk a person who needs a laptop with a good presenation type lcd tho....
post #70 of 145
Well, I have been pulling my hair out, trying to decide if my eyes are good enough to use SXGA+ comfortably. I am not a fan of widescreen, unless it is a 17", which I am not going to buy. Since it is borderline that I can even use SXGA+ comfortably, I think I am going to avoid the whole "limited viewing angles" thing, and just drop down to regular old XGA on a 14.1" or 15". As pretty much a non-gamer, I don't think this will hurt me too much. Yes, I know you can "tweak" Windows settings, but I prefer to use everything at default. I have tried to get information on the new IBM Flexview on the 15" T42 Thinkpad, but not enough people have them yet. It is supposed to be very good contrast and viewing angles, but also VERY slow, with noticeable ghosting. Again, I think I am going to put it to an end by just going plain XGA. Does this make any sense, or would there be any other bad things about getting regular XGA other than the low-resolution itself?
Andrew
Austin, TX
post #71 of 145
i think u should go to a store and see if SXGA is tolerable for u

technology will keep upping the resolution for LCD screen and not go the other way around... so having said that, the longer u wait, the harder it is to find a notebook w/ everything u want + an XGA screen (which is already rare)

i saw an XGA screen a fw days ago at CC actually, it was on a 3k centrino sony system with 12" display... so while it displays larger, the screen itself was tiny :P
post #72 of 145
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProduc...146-018&depa=0

this looks nice

its an ibm t41 with 14" screen xga rsolution

1500 bucks

BUYYYYYYYYYYYYY IT
post #73 of 145
Yeah, but a "Radeon 7500"??? How crummy is that?? I gave my son my Inspiron 8200 I got a year ago and it had Radeon 9200. What will a 7500 do?
And, yes, I have been to many stores, and seen all of the resolutions, and, I could "live" with anything below UXGA. However, I would have to live with SXGA+ a few weeks to see if I could be happy with it.
Tell me what you know about the Radeon 7500, I assume it is DirectX 8.0?
All I know to chose from with XGA and a 9600 are:
HP nc8000 and nc6000, that's it.
Andrew
Austin, TX

Quote:
Originally Posted by rincewind
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProduc...146-018&depa=0

this looks nice

its an ibm t41 with 14" screen xga rsolution

1500 bucks

BUYYYYYYYYYYYYY IT
post #74 of 145
as teh dolphins grow legs and develop lungs
post #75 of 145
I know, and the polar icecaps melt....etc. Gotcha.
Just so you will know, other than THIS laptop purchase (as you know, still not done) I purchased one for my son (Dell) 3 years ago, a Dell 1 year ago for me (that I then gave to him) and a Dell 6 months ago, that Dell never could make right, and that I just sold on EBAY 6 or 8 weeks ago. So, I have purchased 3 notebooks, all Dells, and swore 6-8 weeks ago that I would never own another Dell notebook. Additionally, for a living, I manage a computer network that consists of Dell servers, Dell desktops, and Dell notebooks, yep...ALL DELL. It is only this personal purchase that I have belabored, and, if I had bought it a month ago, I would not have been happy with my choice.
I know people that have talked about buying computers for years, yet I change the components in my desktop at least 2 times a year, and I have a very nice desktop system right now with Raptor drives, Radeon 9800 Pro, 1GIG of RAM, P4C 2.8 running at 3.2GHz, ASUS P4C800-E, etc.
I only say this to let you know that I am no stranger to purchasing computer equipment. I do it all the time.
I have teetered between XGA and SXGA+ because I had cataract surgery last year (total lense replacements in each eye) and my eyes have been "settling". I need nothing for distance, little to nothing for computer, and just glasses for reading. However, my vision is not what it was when I was 18. Since I mainly surf, it would not be a big deal, but for viewing 5MP photos, I thought it would be best to have higher resolution. THAT ALONE is the quandry. If it is XGA, I will order something this weekend.
However, can you honestly recommend to me a Thinkpad with a Radeon 7500 card?? If so, let me know.
Andrew
Austin, TX

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Originally Posted by rincewind
as teh dolphins grow legs and develop lungs
post #76 of 145
will u be doing any gaming? or just general use with a nice xga screen?

sorry im just teasing its just that ive seen you hear the longest asking about notebooks/specs/details to help u in ur buying process and it seems u keep changing your mind and comin back to square 1
post #77 of 145
Light gaming. I currently play stuff like Tiger Woods 2004 and Links 2004, nothing demanding for framerate. However, I thought that it would be better to get at least a 9600 card so that the machine would have some longevity. I do tend to swap equipment fairly often, but I would like to have a machine that would be good for 2 years. The HP nc6000 and nc8000 meet the 9600 "requirement" (with 64MB's), either are available with XGA or SXGA+, and I also have a quote for a 15" IBM T42 with Flexview SXGA+ for 15 percent off, good for 20+ days.
No, I don't really need a great video card, but I have always liked ATI, used to be a Voodoo video card owner, and got ticked when nVidia bought them out and ran them out of business. I have been using ATI cards since 1988 when they pioneered VGA cards with the "VGA Wonder" series. (probably before your time). <grin!>
Most of what I do is 2D, to be honest, but I do 3D stuff from time to time, and it is nice to have decent capability.

As for "being at square one", no, I am going to order a notebook of some sort by the beginning of the week. I know this because I really need one for the network management work that I do, and have to get something right away. I have been "making do" with my desktop at home and at work, and now I really need something for mobile use, which I did have up until I sold the last Dell.

I am happy to have learned as much about the current notebook market as I have, but, like all computers/electronics, nothing is perfect. For example, if I pick ANY IBM Thinkpad or the nc6000, they don't have firewire built-in, and I NEED firewire!! I have several firewire peripherals that I use, so I would immediately have to buy a PCMCIA card for that, which sucks...a brand new notebook without 1394!!

Again, I am happier to have not chosen something already that I would not be happy with, and since I recommend computer hardware every day to others, this is something I am interested in anyhow.

I am way away from square one, but, unfortunately, knowledge is not always a great thing to have. My friends walk into Best Buy, pick a laptop or PC, take it home, and that is it!! There is a delicate balance between too much thought and not enough thought, unfortunately, I have not achieved that balance yet!!

Andrew
Austin, TX
post #78 of 145
Quote:
Originally Posted by rincewind
not all 15 sxgas are the same

most use the same screen that has limited vert viewing angles etc

ferrari 3000/3200, mitac8335, compalcl56, etc... prolly more but i can only speculate from what others review... ive seen those aforementioned 3 in real life side by side and can confirm tehy are the same..

really its fine for the end user... they will be looking at it directly and not from odd angles so i dont see why its an issue...

i can see why it would irk a person who needs a laptop with a good presenation type lcd tho....
I'd have to disagree. It's fine if you assume that you sit stationary on a desk. I love to use my notebook on a bed, turning this way and that way as I channel surf and browse these forums among other fine sites. The SXGA+ screen on my Acer which is prolly ~ 99% of the ones out there sux. I keep having to move the screen every time I change position. It blows. Sorry...just my opinion. I paid 850 for a used one. If I shelled out 1500 bucks plus...believe me, I woulda raised hell. My first new laptop in 3 years was a Toshiba 5205-S119 which was the same chassis/innards as their high end S705 iteration that had a CASV screen. I'm willing to sacrifice "some" screen quality but not THAT much. I think the lcd/screen/monitor is probably the most important component in a computer (and the most neglected).

Personally, my next notebook will not be any laptop that utilizes this screen. It may be fine for some...tolerable for others. For me, a big fat hellz no. That said, here's a to your comp holy. I know you've been waiting for awhile for your's! Glad you like it and those numbers are finally befitting a machine with the Asus label.
post #79 of 145
Quote:
Originally Posted by aamsel
I know, and the polar icecaps melt....etc. Gotcha.
Just so you will know, other than THIS laptop purchase (as you know, still not done) I purchased one for my son (Dell) 3 years ago, a Dell 1 year ago for me (that I then gave to him) and a Dell 6 months ago, that Dell never could make right, and that I just sold on EBAY 6 or 8 weeks ago. So, I have purchased 3 notebooks, all Dells, and swore 6-8 weeks ago that I would never own another Dell notebook. Additionally, for a living, I manage a computer network that consists of Dell servers, Dell desktops, and Dell notebooks, yep...ALL DELL. It is only this personal purchase that I have belabored, and, if I had bought it a month ago, I would not have been happy with my choice.
I know people that have talked about buying computers for years, yet I change the components in my desktop at least 2 times a year, and I have a very nice desktop system right now with Raptor drives, Radeon 9800 Pro, 1GIG of RAM, P4C 2.8 running at 3.2GHz, ASUS P4C800-E, etc.
I only say this to let you know that I am no stranger to purchasing computer equipment. I do it all the time.
I have teetered between XGA and SXGA+ because I had cataract surgery last year (total lense replacements in each eye) and my eyes have been "settling". I need nothing for distance, little to nothing for computer, and just glasses for reading. However, my vision is not what it was when I was 18. Since I mainly surf, it would not be a big deal, but for viewing 5MP photos, I thought it would be best to have higher resolution. THAT ALONE is the quandry. If it is XGA, I will order something this weekend.
However, can you honestly recommend to me a Thinkpad with a Radeon 7500 card?? If so, let me know.
Andrew
Austin, TX
I'm -6 in each eye. Throw in some contacts and looking at a 15" SXGA+ is great. SXGA+ and WSXGA+ are perfect resolutions for me.

Also Andrew...as far as having reservations about the Radeon 7500...if you have them, then doing pull the trigger. The reason I say that is because laptops are big purchases. If you have an inkling of self-doubt you'll be debating that purchase the moment you hit the Submit button. Believe me, buyer's remorse is the bane of all consumers. Make sure you're 100% happy.
post #80 of 145
My problem is that I will do just about anything to NOT wear glasses!! When I do, even 1.25's are too strong for computer monitor viewing distance. However, without any glasses, I get eye fatigue fairly quickly, that's why big-ass XGA has such appeal to me. Basically, I am in-between being comfortable with SXGA+ and finding XGA too large for text, although XGA on a 14.1" is pretty darned "normal" looking to me, even though it is almost too big on a 15". So, the nc6000 would be a good fit for me with XGA, as would any Thinkpad with XGA, but no Thinkpad with just XGA comes with a decent video card. With the nc6000 I can at least get a 64MB 9600, even though it is clocked low. The nc8000 would be better with a 64MB or 128MB 9600 clocked higher, but I am then undecided between XGA and SXGA+. Unfortunately, my opinion varies. Sometimes I can look at a even a 14.1" with SXGA+ and it looks just fine.
Andrew
Austin, TX
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