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Better screen vs better processor for video

post #1 of 16
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I'm still pondering over the 5670 vs 8887 question. I'm trying to keep costs down since I plan on getting some other goodies later on (e.g. external HD & DVD burner). My budget is allowing me to get one of the following:

5670 with 15" UXGA and 3.06 GHz P4 w/ HT
-OR-
8887 with 16.1" UXGA and 2.8 GHz P4

The 5670 actually comes out to be about $50 more (everything else being equal).

For the purposes of capturing DV from a camcorder, DVD burning, and general video editing is the 16.1" screen a must or is the faster processor more important?

Getting the 8887 has some plusses such as 6 pin Firewire (no need for adapters) and also a built-in TV tuner (not a necessity but nice to know it's there).

Your opinions would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
post #2 of 16
I would go with the faster processor.
The lcd on the 5670 is also better than the 8887 from what I have read on other threads.
Take into cosideration that the firewire port is not powered. You will have to have a device that has a power supply.
post #3 of 16

8887 in my opinion

If you do not care about long keyborad, 5670 has better LCD (smaller than 8887 but better quality), 8887 has MS and SD memory card reader, TV Tuner. So the other items are the same, so decide by yourself what would you like more:

5670: betther LCD, but smaller
8887: larger LCD, big keyboard, but not so cool than 5670
post #4 of 16
How is the 5670 screen better than the 8887?
post #5 of 16
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How is the 5670 screen better than the 8887?
Here, read this... http://sagerforums.com/forums/showth...&threadid=2725
post #6 of 16

why ?

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Originally posted by Shadowhwk
How is the 5670 screen better than the 8887?
I know you are thinking, "but 8887 has bigger screen size !!!", YES, definetively I like bigger, but reality is new 56XX, has "wide angle view", so you can see almost every angle from computer, see the next picture...



left 56XX old, it looks like 8887 right now, and
(rigth) better viewing, you see . . .
post #7 of 16
my viewing angles are great i can see it at any angle short of 90
and for people who talk about washed out color i think it looks better i can finally see people in the dark corners(in games) for one and I have no more trouble with Divx that i had on CRTs. BTW what max resolution is 5670?
post #8 of 16
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BTW what max resolution is 5670?
The max res. is 1600x1200.
post #9 of 16
Will the next 88xx series have the same quality screen as the 5670? I hope so because thats the laptop I want to buy.
post #10 of 16
is that virtual res. or native res.
post #11 of 16
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Will the next 88xx series have the same quality screen as the 5670? I hope so because thats the laptop I want to buy.
this is the part i ment for you to read...
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"The 5660 and 8887 are a little harder to separate because the 8887 has the better cpu but the screen with the ghosting effects is a bit of a downer for gaming - at least in comparison with the screens on the 5660 and the 5670. But the 8887 clearly out muscles the 5660 in the benchmarks and it has a gorgeous screen with awesome viewing angles."
post #12 of 16
I'm getting an 88xx series for several reasons. One I want to be able to game on it. I live about a 40 min drive from my school and once I'm there I'm there till my last class. Which can often be from 8 am to 9pm. With 2 and 3 hour breaks between classes. I also want to be able to watch movies on it. I'm the president of an anime club and I use an old 500 mhz celeron system with a 32 mb radeon to show digital fansubbed anime on a big screen at the school. It has to be the crappiest computer I've ever owned. With an 88xx series I'll be able to not only show fansubbed (div-x) anime, but DVDs as well. The remote is also a big selling point to me, because I'll be able to control my computer from a distance. I was seriously considering buying an ATI remote wonder, but I got fed up with the crappy laptop my school forced me to buy so I went a hunting and found powernotebooks.com. The remote and the screen size is what made me decide on getting an 88xx sager. Since the semester is almost over and my laptop is a paperweight during the summer I decided to wait for the next model. Gaming is very important so I'd like to hope that the next 88xx solves the ghosting problem. That was why I asked the question in my previous post.
post #13 of 16

6pin vs 4pin firewire (be carefull)

For all of you out there doing video work. or planning on adding firewire devices to your laptop......BE CAREFULLLLLLLL

4 pin is a much safer connection......it only has data wires

the 6 pin adds a ground wire and a power wire...almost all of the problems associated with firewire ports not working are associated with one of 2 things....

1. the cable itself is bad

2. the power wire gets crossed with a data wire and shoots a charge to a recieving pin that is not built to handle a charge, hence destroying the ports ability to work, sometimes even be seen by windows....

(this is one reason why I am purchasing a PC versus a MAC, most laptop OC's opt for the 4 pin.....matched with a 4 pin self powered enclosure or other device......)

ALSO, video editing is nicer on a larger screen.....however, the best option is to get a 15 inch on the laptop and a second 15, 17, or 19 inch screen......this allows you to run the timeline and monitoring windows on one screen while leaving the other for drop downs of effects, file browsers etc.....

all of the people that opt for a 17" screen for laptop video editing are doing this because they need the extra space in the field where a second monitor is not possible.....(and all of there menu sizes are so small you can't read half the Pro-level indicators or small numbers that give you VERY detailed frame by frame counts)

Just some suggestions from someone who has done video on MAC (Final Cut pro, After Effects) and PC (Premiere/ After Effects)

RH
post #14 of 16
Of all the firewire usage I've ever done (for almost 2 years now) I've never seen or run into a power wire crossing over to a data wire.

I've not seen many cheap cables, either, so that could be why; but this is the first time I've heard this. Interesting.

-myrkat
post #15 of 16
Also, just an add note to what myrkat said, the 6-pin firewire connector on the sagers does not have 6 wires, only 4, but it has the size of a six wire one just because the commodity of not having to buy adapters.
post #16 of 16

firewire---Good job Sager...

IF the Sager really has only 4 pins inside a 6pin plug, that is ingenius.......THANKS SAGER.......

Maybe the Mac's are just more vulnerable to this firewire problem......

thanks for the info....only reinforcing my idea to get a sager instead of a MAC.......


PS- I looked at the additional photos of the 5670 and it seems to have a 4 pin firewire.....as opposed to the 5660 which showed a 6 pin plug....very interesting......
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