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post #21 of 40
If you see temps go over 65C, you've got problems.
If temps are above 55C IDLE, you've got problems.
If your temps are 0C because your notebook doesn't turn on, you've got serious problems.
post #22 of 40
Over 65C is bad? I thought it was ok....
post #23 of 40
Thread Starter 
well after lapping the crap out of my CPU and Heatsink (got off all the silver stuff and now im down to the copper(on both)) I now idle at 42~45 and my fans now turn off for about 5 min evey 10 so thats a plus it takes about 5 min to get my temps up to 48 when the fans kick in but it takes it tell 40 to turn off. so h have a question is there any way to change the temp my fans kick in...
post #24 of 40
-EDITED-

It's the 90 degree room temp. Buy an air conditioner.
post #25 of 40
Quote:
Originally Posted by fatal1ty44
Over 65C is bad? I thought it was ok....
In a normal environment maybe; however, not in a 90F room.
post #26 of 40
doh i just bought the antec and it has reduced my temps by only 2 Degrees Celcius ...... i was expecting a reductoin by 5-6 degrees celcius..... am dissapointed...
post #27 of 40
after searching in this forums and web sites i went to fry today and saw 2 items that have blowing out air instead of sucking in and they are bytecc nc-500 ($24.99) and vantec lpc-201 ($39.99)

here is the descriptions of the vantec:
# Dimension: 300.0x 263.0x 45.0 mm
# Rated Voltage: DC 5V
# Max. Current: 2.0A
# Fan Speed: 1800-2500 RPM
# Airflow: 31.6CFM
# Noise Level: 26 dBA
# Bearing Type: Ball Bearing
# USB Type: USB 2.0 Hub, USB 1.1 Compatible
# USB Wire Length: 180.0 cm
# Pad Material: Aluminum & ABS
# Weight: 560.0 g
# Switching Power:
# Input 100~120V
# Output 5V 2.0A

here is the descriptions of bytecc:
Aluminum housing 300mm x 230mm x 2mm
Fan dimension 60mm x 60mm x 15mm
Fan bearing Ball bearing
Fan speed 3200~3500
Air flow 40 CFM
Noise 25 dba
Ps2 power adapter 5V, 085A

i picked the bytecc based on its $, fan speed, airflow, and noise even the vantec has adjutable speed and larger dimensions. i managed to put 8790 on the bytecc but the fan from the far right is about a half out of the bytecc.

the bytecc has the usb-ps2 adapter which i use one of the usb ports and therefore i have an extra ps2 connector.

the bytecc does its job by keeping the cpu and hard drive temperature constant about 42c while i am typing this message. if i hit the full blast then the temperature would quickly drops to 38c in about 2 minutes. i also am doing the 3dmark03 and 3dmark2001se test and the cpu temperature is 52c and hard drive is 44c.

i don't expect this bytecc or any cooler would reduce the temperture dramatically but to keep the temperature from raising. i notice that the air from the back vent is hotter than before and it means that the heat inside the machine is getting out more or faster.

i will keep the bytecc this weekend to test it then i will exchange it with the vantec for comparison... nah .. i will keep this bytecc.
post #28 of 40
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by conpalo
after searching in this forums and web sites i went to fry today and saw 2 items that have blowing out air instead of sucking in and they are bytecc nc-500 ($24.99) and vantec lpc-201 ($39.99)

here is the descriptions of the vantec:
# Dimension: 300.0x 263.0x 45.0 mm
# Rated Voltage: DC 5V
# Max. Current: 2.0A
# Fan Speed: 1800-2500 RPM
# Airflow: 31.6CFM
# Noise Level: 26 dBA
# Bearing Type: Ball Bearing
# USB Type: USB 2.0 Hub, USB 1.1 Compatible
# USB Wire Length: 180.0 cm
# Pad Material: Aluminum & ABS
# Weight: 560.0 g
# Switching Power:
# Input 100~120V
# Output 5V 2.0A

here is the descriptions of bytecc:
Aluminum housing 300mm x 230mm x 2mm
Fan dimension 60mm x 60mm x 15mm
Fan bearing Ball bearing
Fan speed 3200~3500
Air flow 40 CFM
Noise 25 dba
Ps2 power adapter 5V, 085A

i picked the bytecc based on its $, fan speed, airflow, and noise even the vantec has adjutable speed and larger dimensions. i managed to put 8790 on the bytecc but the fan from the far right is about a half out of the bytecc.

the bytecc has the usb-ps2 adapter which i use one of the usb ports and therefore i have an extra ps2 connector.

the bytecc does its job by keeping the cpu and hard drive temperature constant about 42c while i am typing this message. if i hit the full blast then the temperature would quickly drops to 38c in about 2 minutes. i also am doing the 3dmark03 and 3dmark2001se test and the cpu temperature is 52c and hard drive is 44c.

i don't expect this bytecc or any cooler would reduce the temperture dramatically but to keep the temperature from raising. i notice that the air from the back vent is hotter than before and it means that the heat inside the machine is getting out more or faster.

i will keep the bytecc this weekend to test it then i will exchange it with the vantec for comparison... nah .. i will keep this bytecc.

ok what are your temps with out the cooler? i have the antec one and it seems to only drop it about two degreese also so im just wondering if i should exchange this one for the one you got before my 30 days is up so i cant return it.
post #29 of 40
i took the cooler out and turned off the machine for 15 minutes.
i turn the machine on and the temperature raises to 50 then the fans kick in and reduce to 40 on cpu and the hard drive is 44. the temperature is in idle mode.

i forgot to tell you that i just reapplied arctic silver 5 yesterday.

put the machine on the cooler and the temperature is now at constant 40 on cpu and the hard drive is 40 also while i am typing this message.

let me run both 3dmark03 and 3dmark2001se now ....

after running the 3dmark03 the temperature is 52 on cpu and the hard drive is 42.

after running the 3dmark2001se the temperature is 53 on cpu and the hard drive is 43.

now .. let wait and see the temperature is going down to ...
yup .. it is 40 on both cpu and hard drive.
post #30 of 40
so ummmm what was the difference that the bytec made in cpu temps before u applied ur thermal paste.....????

man , only the antec & targus is available in circuit city and comp usa... no fry's here in CT .. i think ill buy them online... can u plz post temp differences in both the bytec and the vantec ( if u plan to return the bytec and get the vantec )... also when u play games does it prevent the temp from rising ??
post #31 of 40
i already applied the as5 to the cpu before buying the bytecc but i am very sure that it help to reduce the heat and of course it would make the big difference afer applying the as5 and the cooler.

last ngiht i did some more researches and i decided to keep this bytecc based on :

- the simple design (just a piece of aluminum and 2 fans attached by screws.
later on, i can just unscrew and turn the fans the other way to make them into sucking in fan type. i also can drill some holes for fans that run on 5v 0.85a or less and i probably have to search around).

- the vantec does not use usb power but ac therefore it will add more cables and power adapter. i want the 8790 as portable as possible because i bought the 8790 for this purpose in the first place.

- it has the faster fans (3200 - 3500 rpm) therefore more airflow (40 cfm) than other brands that i know of.

at this point the temperature of cpu is 38-39 and hard drive is 36-38 in idle.

ok .. i am done .. !!!

ehehehehe .. sorry .. i am not done yet. while searching for 5v fans i saw another notebook cooling pad that looks so good in design and i just sent an email to ask for info about blowing out or sucking in type.

http://www.bixnet.com/notebookcooler.html
post #32 of 40
This may sound nuts to all of you but when I am plugged in, which is most of the time I run Max fan on MAX all the time. I don't mind the noise and fans are cheap to replace, CPU is a bit more expensive.....just my 2 cents
If on batterys it won't run long enough to get hot....
post #33 of 40
Thread Starter 
the thing the is still getting me is my fans only turn off at 40c and i am running a constent 47, 48 ish and i dont know what i am doing wrong?

is it possable to apply the AS5 wrong i mean it cant be that hard but i never go below 45 and thats with my antec cooler on?????


I just dont want my fans to always be on it gets annoying... mostly when i sitting in class at school....... but i guess it just becomes background noise....


AHHHHH
i do hope it drops when the AS5 "cures"

thanks
-Chris-
post #34 of 40
Well I’ve been tinkering around today…..
Found a small table top about 14x22 and cut the legs off, cut a round hole in it and mounted a 120VAC box fan underneath that blows air into the 3 openings on the bottom of my 5690. Fan is about 4 ½” square by 1” thick and blows like mad. Picked it up at a surplus electronics place. Been surfing the web for a couple hours now and the CPU is staying at 38 and the HD is 32. Not practical for road use but should keep it cool for long game time..
post #35 of 40
Thread Starter 
thats a good ieda but im going more for a quiet aproch.
im guessing that is not very quiet and i cant bring that into class
but good sugestion

keep them comming guys

thanks
-Chris-
post #36 of 40
Look at what I got for answer ... I only asked :

hi,

i just want to make sure because i am looking for a notebook cooling pad's fans that are blowing out cool air type NOT sucking in.

please, advice ...

---------------------------
Hi, Sir:

Since the laptop is on the top of the cooling pad, blow out air will not work well since there is no space for air to move out.

Thanks
Customer Service
BiX Computers
17785 Sky Park Circle, Suite H
Irvine, CA 92614, USA
Tel. 949-955-2616
Fax. 949-955-2619
Web Site: www.bixnet.com
E-mail: bix@bixnet.com
post #37 of 40
Good Riddance, your not really doing anything wrong, I think the temps you are getting are quite normal. I have a 5690 and the room is about room temp now, and I get around 47-48 Degrees C, and the low fans on mine is always on too. One thing you might try is sitting your laptop on two thick books, one on each side of the laptop, with space in between where your fans are. I did this at my friends house, and my temps drop to 43C. But yes, its kinda annoying that the fans only turn off below 40... mine, like yours, are always on too.
post #38 of 40
Thread Starter 
thats what i was afrade of i guess i will have to live with it....

thanks
post #39 of 40
I'm getting a bit worried myself. I only have a 5660, Radeon 9000, 1 Gig Mem, etc... My systems temp when turned on is about 45c. It idles at 46-50c, and will keep around there when just doing web browsing. Playing dvd movies it gets up to about 55 or so. Gaming it rises to from between 70 and 80c. Odd thing is, playing games like Homeworld 2 brings the temp to about 79-80. Doom 3 got it to about 75c, and SW Galaxies keeps it about the same. The wasd keys get VERY hot, and unless I have a desktop fan around, it makes some first person shooters unplayable after awhile. I think I have a problem with the laptops MB, as it will lock up on startup unless I get my password typed in within about 25 seconds. If I wait any longer, it will hard lock, requiring me to hold the power button down. It will also lockup when watching DIVX, or XVID movies, but has no problem with DVD. It does lockup sometimes if I try to fast forward or rewind a DVD. I have heard from some in these forums that there is a problem with the logic board or something failing in these laptops. Thankfully I did pick up the philips warranty for another 3 years. I just got the Antec cooler for my birthday, and am testing that to see if it makes any difference with the temperature. If anyone has any ideas on better cooling, or about my lockup issues let me know.
post #40 of 40
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EmperorWSA
I'm getting a bit worried myself. I only have a 5660, Radeon 9000, 1 Gig Mem, etc... My systems temp when turned on is about 45c. It idles at 46-50c, and will keep around there when just doing web browsing. Playing dvd movies it gets up to about 55 or so. Gaming it rises to from between 70 and 80c. Odd thing is, playing games like Homeworld 2 brings the temp to about 79-80. Doom 3 got it to about 75c, and SW Galaxies keeps it about the same. The wasd keys get VERY hot, and unless I have a desktop fan around, it makes some first person shooters unplayable after awhile. I think I have a problem with the laptops MB, as it will lock up on startup unless I get my password typed in within about 25 seconds. If I wait any longer, it will hard lock, requiring me to hold the power button down. It will also lockup when watching DIVX, or XVID movies, but has no problem with DVD. It does lockup sometimes if I try to fast forward or rewind a DVD. I have heard from some in these forums that there is a problem with the logic board or something failing in these laptops. Thankfully I did pick up the philips warranty for another 3 years. I just got the Antec cooler for my birthday, and am testing that to see if it makes any difference with the temperature. If anyone has any ideas on better cooling, or about my lockup issues let me know.

first try opening up the bottom of your case and cleaning out the heat sink with a vacume and some compressed air most of the time there is a lot of build up. second if this does not work, Apply some AS5 on the cpu, and finly if this doent I would e-mail sager to get more ideas and let them know what you have tryed. Iv just come to live with my fans never turning off..


PS.

Also search the fourms for the program MaxFan. This program lets you trun your fans on MAX all the time. id use it when gamming.
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