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Over the past few days I have asked tons of questions, I hope nobody is getting annoyed with me but I have found this forum to be exceptionally informative.

I have not dumped the idea of getting AMD in my notebook just yet because I'm still confused about all the processors they make. You know one of the systems I am interested in is the Compaq Presario 3000 series line. One of those lines in the 3000Z which features the processor from AMD. OK, go to the config page for a 3000Z and check out the processors: AMD Athlon(TM) XP-M 3000+ 1.60 GHz, AMD Athlon(TM) 64 3000+ 1.80 GHz, AMD Athlon(TM) 64 3200+ 2.00 GHz and finally AMD Athlon(TM) 64 3400+ 2.20 GHz What I dont understand is this. The first processor choice lists as a MOBILE processor, it's not a 64bit processor but it's an "XP" processor from AMD. The remaining processors are the 64bit chips but there is no "M" in the title of the processors. When you click on "help me decide", Compaq tells you the 64bit processors listed there are "designed for mobility", so then why isn't there a "M" in the title for the 64bit processors? I tried researching this on amd.com but I'm totally confused with all the processors they have and I just can't figure it out. The 64bit processors listed for the 3000z model, are these desktop processors or notebook (mobile) processors? I just can't figure out if they are mobile, why aren't they titled as such?

Also when configuring a AMD 64bit processor 3000Z verses a mobile P4 at the 3000T model, the price difference for the AMD model is about 300 dollars less then the mobile p4 model. I thought AMD 64bit chips were more expensive then Intel's mobile p4 chips? I'm not complaining but I dont want to buy a cheap processor If anyone can help clarify this I would really appreciate it. Money is a factor here but if going with AMD will give me a mobile processor with good battery life between charges and excellent performance and if it will save me 300 bucks verses going the mobile p4 route, that is what I want to do...I think?

I wish Compaq was offering the Centrino chip in the 3000 models but for some reason they are not and once again, I keep swaying away from Dell because I just don't like their designs in their notebooks. For me, when I buy a notebook, both performance as well as design are important factors to me, I want both and will not settle for one or the other.

Thanks.
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I'm not the most knowledgeable about chips, but I did do a fair amount of research on AMD a little while back and I currently own a desktop with an AMD processor. So here goes:

1) The Athlon-XP, while a viable processor, is not in itself a true mobile like the P-Ms. It is also not 64bit.

2) The three 64bit AMDs you mentioned are probably all clocked down versions of DTRs (i.e. mobile, but not "true" mobile). I'd say they're a world better than the XP chip, faster than the P4's and the P-Ms, but suck down more battery than the latter while using less than the former.

3) As far as price is concerned, AMD is (significantly) cheaper. I have had an AMD computer for 3 years, no problems. So I'd say you're not getting a "cheap" processor. They just sell for cheaper because they're not Intel. Intel controls the worldwide chip market (for the most part) so they can afford to charge more. I guess you could compare it to European vs. South American wines. Italian and French wines, while excellent, are almost always the more expensive wines. Whereas Argentinian wines, for example, are equally excellent (and in some cases, even better) they sell for less simply because when people think wine they think "France" and "Italy."
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AMD offers following mobile processors:

Athlon XP-M DTR (65W)
Athlon XP-M Mainstream (45W)
Athlon XP-M Low Voltage (25W)

Mobile Athlon64 DTR (82W)
Mobile Athlon64 Mainstream (65W)
Mobile Athlon64 Low Voltage (35W)

All AMD processors in Notebooks are mobile processors (Mobile or M). Desktop processors won't build in. I would go for the Mobile Athlon64, because they are fast and not as hot as XP-M or P4 processors.
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Originally Posted by Shinzon
AMD offers following mobile processors:

Athlon XP-M DTR (65W)
Athlon XP-M Mainstream (45W)
Athlon XP-M Low Voltage (25W)

Mobile Athlon64 DTR (82W)
Mobile Athlon64 Mainstream (65W)
Mobile Athlon64 Low Voltage (35W)

All AMD processors in Notebooks are mobile processors (Mobile or M). Desktop processors won't build in. I would go for the Mobile Athlon64, because they are fast and not as hot as XP-M or P4 processors.
I think I'm going to do that! It will save me some money. BTW, I wont have any issues running any of my programs that I have always ran with Intel chips, will I? For instance, Outlook 2003, the requirements say you need a intel processor bla bla bla or higher but I assume AMD will work just fine?
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ya, they only say intel, cause intel is more well known than amd, i have been using an amd machine for my entire computing life, and never hace run into software/cpu incompatabilites, i use everything from solatair to 3dsmax 6 and maya .
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AMD for me...

I would go with a 64-bit 3000+ or 3200+ (the 3400 is most likely a DTR, not a mobile)...And yes, Intel has the name brand so they get to be sponsored in the minimum system requirements, although I do have an old Rage PRO 8mb video card that has on the side printed: "Minimum System Requirements: 400mhz Pentium II or 300mhz AMD processor". I think thats cool...just me though.
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