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post #41 of 158
Look aamsel. We pointed out strong points for the HP and the IBM. So see what laptop has the options you need or like better, and make your highly informed purchase decision!

So get a grip on yourself, use your gut feeling and buy the laptop you want!
post #42 of 158
Really? I have never used one, I just thought it looked kind of ridiculous, the whole lappy being black and business like, with a bright red eraser head in the middle of the keyboard
post #43 of 158
hehe, yeah it's not very attractive i guess, but very functional (you don't have to move your fingers from the kb to get to the mouse)
post #44 of 158
And i really didn't mean to piss you off aamsel, and I understand this is a stressful situation, and my timing was inapproppriate, and for that I am sorry. But honestly, go with your gut. Either way you can't go wrong.
post #45 of 158
yeah that's the sweet part, it's so much faster than a touchpad you wouldn't believe. It can't be beaten for productivity.
post #46 of 158
yeah i still can't get used to the eraserhead though. i move so slooowwwwww
post #47 of 158
Really...hmmmm...interesting...if it so productive, why haven't other companies looked at similar solutions?
post #48 of 158
HP has, and quite frankly I don't know why it's not copyright infringement lol.
post #49 of 158
might be another reason why so many people continue to buy IBMs =D
high price for an eraserhead, but i guess it's worth it if you can't use a trackpad
post #50 of 158
i like trackpads, cause you can just tap your finger, and do the same things as clicking a button. the eraserhead thing...do you still ahve to click a button, or can you tap the red-dot?
post #51 of 158
you can't tap the red dot, at least not on mine, but you can have your thumb on the mouse button easily.
post #52 of 158
yeah they're not tappable but i find your thumb is in a very natural position (on the thinkpads) to hit the mouse buttons (close to the spacebar).
post #53 of 158
Thread Starter 
I didn't mean to fly off the handle either. Had a "bad case of the Monday's" at work, at least that is over with now.
Picking a laptop isn't really stressful at all. I have spent far too long deciding, but there hasn't been any stress. It's not enough money to me to really cause any.
Andrew
Austin, TX

Quote:
Originally Posted by been606
And i really didn't mean to piss you off aamsel, and I understand this is a stressful situation, and my timing was inapproppriate, and for that I am sorry. But honestly, go with your gut. Either way you can't go wrong.
post #54 of 158
Thread Starter 
The "eraser-heads" are on the Dell's also.
Andrew
Austin, TX

Quote:
Originally Posted by turanuk
HP has, and quite frankly I don't know why it's not copyright infringement lol.
post #55 of 158


smashed bananas to the end of the monday workday!
post #56 of 158
While the IBM is thinner/lighter...

The HP imho is portable enough. its not a riot shield 17" or anything so thats fine, at least for me.

The HP also has the better video card, so if you want 2 years+ longevity in the gaming department this would be the better route...

You said you had alot of periphials that use firewire? Well the HP also already has this... instead of wasting a PCMCIA Cardbus for firewire expansion in the IBM... go with the HP and use the PCMCIA for something else more useful (like an indigo soundcard or biometrics security card)

While I have not actually seen the IBM T42 screen (aside from the video on c|net) the fact remains that the actual quality of the screen remains unclear from conflicting reviews of it.. and along with the questionable reflective glare that was aparent in the video. Bright studio lights or no bright studio lights, it shouldnt do that with a light source directed to it if it wasnt suppose to be reflective/glossy.

I was actually at CC today and saw the screen to the HPNC lappy and its perfectly fine... no glare, so its exactly what you want!

If you were going to get a laptop that would be durable enough to last you 4+ years or so I'd recommend the IBM even tho its skimpped in a few areas compared to the HP (IBM makes products built to last)

but since you said it yourself you'd like to get something better than a dell and adaquate enough to last you 2 years b4 you upgrade again, and the HP just that. (Plus its the cheaper choice... if u plan to get another one in 2 years, why dump big $$$ into it that doesnt have as much of everything as you want?)

Plus I think if you go with HP you get 3-year warranty? Thats a great offer
post #57 of 158
he said the ibm has a 3 yr warranty also
post #58 of 158
Thread Starter 
This is actually a very insightful analysis of the IPS technology screens.
If this is really true of the IBM Flexview, then I don't think I want one, even though they may be better built and sleeker. I don't think there is any "denying" the ghosting that can occur with them. They are, after all, 60ms screens. I don't think you could have a screen that slow that didn't ghost. Now, would I notice the ghosting in what I would be doing with the notebook in day-to-day useage??? Who knows???
Thanks,
Andrew
Austin, TX

Quote:
Originally Posted by MagicRobin
A wet image doesn't come without a reflective coating. I believe what IBM does is put a "reflective" coating and in front of it a treated anti-glare film, so it is better than the X-BRITE screens. It's good, but I believe I'm used to my totally opaque screen even though black isn't as black as it could.

This is a TFT limitation, so IBM has no other choice but to put a coating. I suggest you take a look at an IBM screen to see how it looks. It's really not bad, but seems to come with pathetic ghosting. (Try moving your mouse on a black background - rather funny to watch, but unpleasant for gaming and DVD!)
post #59 of 158
Yes

60ms is awful... you'd see it in your mouse pointer as you move it around
post #60 of 158
Thread Starter 
That is fine logic, but:
1.) The HP is NOT cheaper, it is actually a few dollars more, and without the 60GB 7200, but as I said, I already had one, so no big deal.
2.) You saw an HP nc8000 at Circuit City. I am not sure how, since they don't sell them in retail stores????? Are you sure it wasn't one of the consumer line systems??
3.) I agree with you on the equipment issues with the HP being better in that department.
4.) I agree with you on the "questionable" IBM screen. Also, there is NO question that it is much slower, and that it ghosts, since most people say that is is/does.
Andrew
Austin, TX

Quote:
Originally Posted by rincewind
While the IBM is thinner/lighter...

The HP imho is portable enough. its not a riot shield 17" or anything so thats fine, at least for me.

The HP also has the better video card, so if you want 2 years+ longevity in the gaming department this would be the better route...

You said you had alot of periphials that use firewire? Well the HP also already has this... instead of wasting a PCMCIA Cardbus for firewire expansion in the IBM... go with the HP and use the PCMCIA for something else more useful (like an indigo soundcard or biometrics security card)

While I have not actually seen the IBM T42 screen (aside from the video on c|net) the fact remains that the actual quality of the screen remains unclear from conflicting reviews of it.. and along with the questionable reflective glare that was aparent in the video. Bright studio lights or no bright studio lights, it shouldnt do that with a light source directed to it if it wasnt suppose to be reflective/glossy.

I was actually at CC today and saw the screen to the HPNC lappy and its perfectly fine... no glare, so its exactly what you want!

If you were going to get a laptop that would be durable enough to last you 4+ years or so I'd recommend the IBM even tho its skimpped in a few areas compared to the HP (IBM makes products built to last)

but since you said it yourself you'd like to get something better than a dell and adaquate enough to last you 2 years b4 you upgrade again, and the HP just that. (Plus its the cheaper choice... if u plan to get another one in 2 years, why dump big $$$ into it that doesnt have as much of everything as you want?)

Plus I think if you go with HP you get 3-year warranty? Thats a great offer
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