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post #21 of 41
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Originally posted by myrkat
Nice photos. How durable is it? Can you heft your sager up and carry it by the pad alone?

I carry my 8887 and mouse/left speaker on my laptop desk and it's pretty durable (there is deflection, of course, but it's designed for it).

How would the CoolerPad do in cases of Moment-Shear (i.e. twisting)? Can you hold it w/ one hand w/ laptop on it? What's the deflection like?

Now, I know it's very difficult to hold a 8887 up with one hand, but I've done it! It's tricky, though.

Looks like a nice add-on,
-myrkat
I'm thinking about ordering a laptop desk 2.0 but is there room for the mouse to move? It looks like vertically there's a lot of room but not much horizontally. Can you actually play games without using an extra mousepad?

-Sunny
post #22 of 41
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Originally posted by BlueMeanie
I am pretty sure P4s throttle down when they overheat...kind of like a rev limiter on a car, preventing "boom". This is unlike athlons that will crash, or melt sh*t if their cooling system fails.

this video is a good example, its been linked a few times on this board, but i still love it, take a peek.

http://www12.tomshardware.com/images...PU_Cooling.zip
uhh yeah all motherboards have a feature to power off the machine if the cooling system fails, its not just wintel.... only time ive ever burnt an amd was once when overclocking by 500mhz with stock cooling, and once when i accidentally turned off that feature.


as far as laptop coolers use, i dont like that plastic one you guys have linked....its just shotty imo, i like this one, i used it on a 5660

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...p?sku=Z19-1098

it works great, its metal so its strong, the fans arent too loud, its got an on off, and its got a ps2 y connector so you can still plug in a keyboard.

Also i saw someone posted about how that it wouldnt work because of negative pressure? Maybe in theory, but i've used it and it works VERY well, you could actually use it as a laptop I've seen them at computer shows for 21 bucks, so that 30 is a bit expensive, but its definetly worth 30. Its VERY sturdy, made of aluminum i believe. That site says it has 3 fans, it only has two as the picture depicts. on the 5660 it was about 1/2 " too small width wise. Didnt whip out a ruler but its about that. Was very comfortable VERY VERY STURDY. I would extremely reccomdend this to anyone over those plastic toy looking things.
post #23 of 41
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Originally posted by Mellman99
uhh yeah all motherboards have a feature to power off the machine if the cooling system fails, its not just wintel.... only time ive ever burnt an amd was once when overclocking by 500mhz with stock cooling, and once when i accidentally turned off that feature.


as far as laptop coolers use, i dont like that plastic one you guys have linked....its just shotty imo, i like this one, i used it on a 5660

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...p?sku=Z19-1098

it works great, its metal so its strong, the fans arent too loud, its got an on off, and its got a ps2 y connector so you can still plug in a keyboard.

Also i saw someone posted about how that it wouldnt work because of negative pressure? Maybe in theory, but i've used it and it works VERY well, you could actually use it as a laptop I've seen them at computer shows for 21 bucks, so that 30 is a bit expensive, but its definetly worth 30. Its VERY sturdy, made of aluminum i believe. That site says it has 3 fans, it only has two as the picture depicts. on the 5660 it was about 1/2 " too small width wise. Didnt whip out a ruler but its about that. Was very comfortable VERY VERY STURDY. I would extremely reccomdend this to anyone over those plastic toy looking things.
so you're saying that the guy who took this video removed features from the AMD (other than the fan?)...I doubt he would since doing so would negate his point that intels throttle back and amds fry if their cooling system fails...

also, the nexus pad that infinity306 and I linked is NOT plastic, it is all metal (aluminum i think), the only plastic part being the rubber feet. It makes a great lap surface for my 8886, and supports it's weight completely.
post #24 of 41

where to buy

bluemeanie where can i get the nexus pad, checked there site cant find it anywhere else. does it work well for placing on your lap? some of the coolers with the fans i would assume dont work that well for lap use, could be wrong.
post #25 of 41
yes, it works just fine on your lap, but i would suggest pants since it is metal and may push bare legs a little w/ a 12lbs lappy on it....

here's a place to get em

http://www.coolerexpress.com/heattecnotco.html
post #26 of 41
Quote:
Originally posted by BlueMeanie
yes, it works just fine on your lap, but i would suggest pants since it is metal and may push bare legs a little w/ a 12lbs lappy on it....

here's a place to get em

http://www.coolerexpress.com/heattecnotco.html
That's where i got mine too, but i've heard from other people that this one at compusa is the same thing.. and from the picture it looks like it is.. and it's almost half the price
http://www.compusa.com/products/prod...199&pfp=BROWSE
post #27 of 41
Quote:
Originally posted by infinity306
That's where i got mine too, but i've heard from other people that this one at compusa is the same thing.. and from the picture it looks like it is.. and it's almost half the price
http://www.compusa.com/products/prod...199&pfp=BROWSE
yeah, that picture looks like mine too, but the fact that they don't mention heat-piping or show a picture of that part makes me think more that nexus bought that pad, and attacked it's own technology....but i may be wrong.
post #28 of 41
Quote:
Originally posted by BlueMeanie
yeah, that picture looks like mine too, but the fact that they don't mention heat-piping or show a picture of that part makes me think more that nexus bought that pad, and attacked it's own technology....but i may be wrong.
I am going to buy the CompUSA one. I will let you guys know on Tuesday.
post #29 of 41

ok. here's my view of all this.

on the issue of negative pressure:

I dont think this is too much of an issue. consider that during "normal" usage, the 8887's fans
only come on periodically as needed. it seems to me that having the negative pressure between
the cooler and the laptop sucks air in from any direction, Including through the side vent and
out through the laptops fan intake ports, therefore providing at least some active cooling of
the CPU's heatsink. unfortunatly I dont have a tempurature guage to test this with.

However, I have noticed that when I have the 8887 off of the coolerpad, the fans come on more
often. So I know that it does make a difference.

and I understand where Rado is coming from when he talks about the fans competing with each other.
one of the fans on the coolerpad is located directly below the 8887's intake ports. I think that
in a contest the 8887's fans would win hands down when competing for air, but they would still be
competing. so yes, their is a slight disadvantage their. but I think this would only be a problem
under heavy usage. if this is a concern, one can simply disconnect or turn off the added fans when
they expect heavy usage. I also beleive it would be very easy to reverse the in airflow in one of
these devices if one had such a desire.

one could also argue that having the added fans running will pull more air from around the laptop
underneath and faster, therefore providing cooler air as it has less time to gain heat from the
underside of the laptop before moving across the heatsinks.



the Cyber Cooler:

overclocked cafe did a review of the nk-360, located here

the specs as printed on the label are as follows:

Air Flow: 30 CFM
Speed: 3000 rpm
Noise: 21 dba
Voltage: DC 5 V
Power: 1.3 W
Current: 0.26 A
Fan: x3 60x60x10 mm
Dimension 270x 300x 13.8 mm (10.6x 11.8x 0.55 in)
Weight 425g
power cord adds 25g


be aware that the model they reviewed seems to be an older version. the newer one that I have has blue
lights, a USB power scource, and different specs. Also it seems this is their first review of a product
of this nature, and therefore possibly biased.

it is plastic, so I wouldn't recomend suspending it between two chairs and standing on it.

It feels like it can take a good bit of twisting force, but the fan-grills are plastic and Inherently
somewhat flimsy. If you push down in the ceter of each grill it doesnt take much to touch it to the fan.
But there is only a little less than a millimeter of clearance anyways. I think I will need to add some
more little rubber feet to it, cuz I'm not very happy with it's traction. like I said, the bottom pads
suck. It slides around like an optical mouse on my llinolium (SP?) floor.

Over-all it's small, has little traction, has cool blue lights, and an on/off switch. But I wouldn't stand
on it. Due to those somewhat flimsy grills, I would be carefull what you put up against it in a backpack.







my thoughts on the Zerus PS2/USB :

these are the specs I was able to find.

Aluminum housing: 300x 230x 2mm (11.8x 9x 0.1 inches)
Fan dimension: 60x 60x 15mm
Fan speed: 3200~3500
Air flow: 40 CFM
Noise: 25 dba
PS2/USB power: 5V
current: 0.85A



As far as sturdiness is concerned, it looks great. I am curious about how many fans it REALLY has.
From what I can see, I would Hate to have to use it on my lap. I dont like the idea of having only
those two metal edges to disperse the 8887's 12+ pounds across my fragile, nerdy legs. that would
get uncomfortable REALLY fast. It also seems like it would be a pain to pack with that huge flap
on the back.

As far as cooling is concerned, I think it would do well, having a metal structure to help
dissapate heat. But again, does anyone know how many fans it REALLY has, or its CFM perhaps?




my thoughts on the nexus tdd-3000:

review located here

This device seems to be a laptop owners dream. it requires absolutly no power, produces no noise, and
has no moving parts to break when you drop/crush it!

These are the Dimensions according to the nexustek
website: 31,3 cm x 30,6 cm. This translates to about 12.3 x 12 in, which makes it just big enough to
have all four of the 8887's feet resting on it.

My question is: how much cooling can this device actually provide for the 8887?

It seems to me that this technology will work much better with direct contact to the heat scource.
which in the 8887's case can only be acheived through odd angles or removal of the laptops feet. only
then, without some very off-center placement, it would be blocking the fan intake ports.

BlueMeanie say he loves his, and I would love to see how he has his setup. Pros and Cons also?



here are some pics of the Cyber Cooler under my 8887:
post #30 of 41

Re: ok. here's my view of all this.

Quote:
Originally posted by kramer

my thoughts on the nexus tdd-3000:

review located here

This device seems to be a laptop owners dream. it requires absolutly no power, produces no noise, and
has no moving parts to break when you drop/crush it!

These are the Dimensions according to the nexustek
website: 31,3 cm x 30,6 cm. This translates to about 12.3 x 12 in, which makes it just big enough to
have all four of the 8887's feet resting on it.

My question is: how much cooling can this device actually provide for the 8887?

It seems to me that this technology will work much better with direct contact to the heat scource.
which in the 8887's case can only be acheived through odd angles or removal of the laptops feet. only
then, without some very off-center placement, it would be blocking the fan intake ports.

BlueMeanie say he loves his, and I would love to see how he has his setup. Pros and Cons also?



here are some pics of the Cyber Cooler under my 8887:
(see original post for images)
actually the nexus has holes all over it so blocking airflow isnt that much of a problem.. surprizing how much cooling it can manage without fans.. i have 1 with a prostar 8593.. which does manage to get hot at times without it .. the nexus works great..will be using it when i get a 888X
post #31 of 41
I bought the CompUSA one yesterday and its the same thing as the other expensive one (nexus tdd3000). I'm using a 6160...

It does use heat-pipe technology. I've never used a notebook pad before but my fan does not come on as often. So i'm guessing it works?

I will post pictures later.
post #32 of 41
My laptop desk 2.0 came in yesterday and it's a lot smaller than I thought. I like it a lot. Since it came in, I've pretty much exclusively used it on my lap. The fans on my 5670 never really came on that much to begin with but now I don't think I've even heard them come on.

Good investment.
post #33 of 41
I ordered the Laptop Desk 2.0 and the mousepad from them yesterday. Probably won't use the mousepad, but for $5.. why not have it just in case.

We'll be using it with the 8887-V which should be here by Thursday or Friday depending on whether UPS lets Dale Jarrett drive the truck or not.
post #34 of 41
I really thought it'd actually cover the depth of the laptop. In my case, the 5670 hangs out in the front and back. With your 8887, it may hang even more. But, in any case, it's a nice little addition.

Haha, Dale Jarett.
post #35 of 41
i am really interested in getting one of these for my 5670 but i dont know which one too choose I am so confused.....
post #36 of 41
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Originally posted by ServerKing
i am really interested in getting one of these for my 5670 but i dont know which one too choose I am so confused.....
For me, the thought of having some aluminum on my lap didn't sit too well. I'd much rather have some plastic or rubber or "virtually unbreakable" material. It's really light too.

Hope that helps.

Off topic, I see that you have Counter-strike in your banner thing. Do you have any problems with CS? In your movements, i.e. keyboard and mouse?
post #37 of 41
Anyone Know if there is a UK Supplyer of This one?

I Like it, but it'd cost more than it's price to have just one Sent over here...
post #38 of 41
I'm gonna return my CompUSA heat-pipe pad... it doesn't really work with the 6160. Perhaps the location of fans and such make it ineffective.

I'm gonna buy one of those usb powered fan pads.
post #39 of 41
nope i havent had probs with counter-strike juicy
post #40 of 41
hi

this is about the nexus cooling pad

after looking at the pics in the review, and considering that its metal, this thing looks to have really sharp edges on the bottom side.

does it still sit comfortably on the lap ?? , i mean the edges dont bite into the skin or something ??
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