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Pentium M vs. Athlon 64 3200+ Mobile

post #1 of 8
6/18/04 at 2:50pm
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Anyone know how these compare?

I guess I could just look it up (maybe on anandtech.com) but there seem to be some people on here who are knowledgeable about technical stuff, which I freely admit isn't my forte.
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post #2 of 8
6/18/04 at 5:20pm
depends on what you want to do. for mobility, you have a choice of either a pentium m or the 35w version of the A64-m, as the 62w version is hardly less power-consuming than the DTR A64. also, while the pentium m has gobs of on-die cache(1-2mb as opposed to the 35w A64's 512kb), the A64 has the advantage of an insane front side bus speed, and can therefore have an advantage in games. i don't know too much about the high end p-m's, but from what i've seen they can spank a 3.4 p4 pretty bad (as can an A64 when it comes to gaming, with media encoding however its a bit different ). You won't be sorry about buying either of them, however.
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post #3 of 8
6/18/04 at 6:32pm
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Thanks for the reply. I was more curious than anything else as I have an AMD processor in my desktop and was wondering how the Athlon mobile chip compared with the Intel one.

I certainly don't hear/read much about the Athlon Mobile.
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post #4 of 8
6/18/04 at 7:05pm
Hmmm..how does one calculate the FSB speed with the Athlon 64's? The northbridge is built into the chip, and therefore the hypertransport link actually connects to the southbridge and hence it does not really have a FSB. I think this is partly why it is hard to compare the Athlon 64's to Intel chips directly using the various frequencies.
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post #5 of 8
6/18/04 at 7:50pm
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Originally Posted by deltawalkerl
Hmmm..how does one calculate the FSB speed with the Athlon 64's? The northbridge is built into the chip, and therefore the hypertransport link actually connects to the southbridge and is therefore does not really have a FSB. I think this is partly why it is hard to compare the Athlon 64's to Intel chips directly using the various frequencies.
I agree kind of hard to test, now the ones I have seen side by side are the desktops like the 64 3200+ and the P4 3.0 HT, the speeds were pretty close, I thought though that the intels are better for battery life?
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post #6 of 8
6/18/04 at 10:52pm
i remember reading somewhere that it has like 2 ht links with an 800mhz bandwidth both ways...so 1.6 ghz total bandwidth? not quite sure myself. amd's website probably has stuff on the subject. i don't want to post a link just cause i'm so damn lazy.
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post #7 of 8
6/19/04 at 12:15am
You are correct: the hypertransport link is 800MHz and 1600 mega-transfers per second since it is full duplex. But the problem lies in that it is not technically a front-side bus.
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post #8 of 8
6/19/04 at 8:30am
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You are correct: the hypertransport link is 800MHz and 1600 mega-transfers per second since it is full duplex. But the problem lies in that it is not technically a front-side bus.
not really an fsb? weird... well doesn't the A64 not need one cause it has mostly all the northbridge stuff on the chip (so the RAM, AGP, etc. links right to it) and for the sotuhbridge's devices it just needs the hypertransport? or am i completely off target now?

EDIT: nevermind, someone already posted this. i just blabbered on about it some more than was necessary.
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