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Will ATI PCIe Card be Compatiable with NVIDIA PCIe Notebook (and vice versa)

post #1 of 8
6/23/04 at 9:30am
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Please shoot me if this has been answered.. but.. Once Notebook PCIe comes out.. Will a graphics module from NVIDIA be compatiable with Notebook which originally came with ATI PCIe card, and vice versa?

I'm just a bit curious, because if you're stuck with one brand (not a bad thing as long as they pump out what you want at the time) and can't switch to something better/different/cheaper/newer because the interface (not necesarily the PCIe interface, since that's pretty standardized..more like the physical size/heat sink position/etc..) aren't compatiable.. That would "blow"....
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post #2 of 8
6/23/04 at 11:28am
Both nVidia and ATI will probably release PCIe cards for both form factors that will be available, AXIOM and MXM, so if a notebook has either extension, then cards from both companies can be used. However, according to current rumors, it is likely that MXM will never take off, which means future PCIe notebooks will probably use AXIOM and nVidia and ATI will both release cards for AXIOM. Either way cards from both companies can be used for the same laptop.
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post #3 of 8
6/23/04 at 11:31am
Highly doubt that.
because each company has there own schematics for boards, using dx9, drivers and such.

Think about it from the companies perspective!

What will most likely happen is the main part of the graphics will be intergrated to the main board, because there isn't much space inside a lappy. And the module will be inserted into a slot or socket, kinda like a processor or ram.
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post #4 of 8
6/23/04 at 8:56pm
wow that would suck if the ATIs weren't compatible with nVidia comps and vice versa...watch something like that happen with the PCI-E 8790....ahaha that would be funny as hell, getting stuck with the sucky graphics card on an otherwise amazing system.
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post #5 of 8
6/23/04 at 10:22pm
Video cards use AGP slots today with good compatibility. You can stick an ATI or an NVIDIA in it. Why would the bus interface vary per card? The computer industry is converging to a "standards" style of design. I would have to laugh hard if both cards couldn't work in the same PCIe slot, regardless of notebook make. (Recall DVD+R and DVD-R, horrible idea)
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post #6 of 8
6/23/04 at 10:26pm
well since the mobos/cases with the slots are proprietary to one device, perhaps a different one might not fit correctly or be compatible with the BIOS. unlikely, but certainly possible.
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post #7 of 8
6/24/04 at 12:00am
AXIOM and MXM are separate standards with different interfaces that should not be even remotely compatible. However ATI have made a statement saying they will support MXM if a lot of notebook ODMs use MXM. I ask you to think about it from the company's perspective. Both MXM and AXIOM are open standards, not proprietary technologies. Notebook manufacturers are free to adopt either. Obviously ATI and nVidia will use the standard that the majority of notebook makers adopt. If both are widely adopted, then both companies will make cards for both interfaces. Kinda like in the beginning of AGP, when video card makers made cards for both AGP and PCI.
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What will most likely happen is the main part of the graphics will be intergrated to the main board, because there isn't much space inside a lappy. And the module will be inserted into a slot or socket, kinda like a processor or ram.
Where are you getting this from? AXIOM and MXM will be similar to desktop video cards without outputs. They will integrate memory and VPU. I don't see how they would serve any purpose at all without an onboard VPU.
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post #8 of 8
6/24/04 at 2:56pm
yeah, wouldn't that be the exact opposite of "upgradable graphics?" and people still do make PCI vidcards, delta, but they suck pretty bad.
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